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Current Promotions of Interest
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under 3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
From Europe
17DEC | 0.75/TP | 909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | 0.93/TP | 335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | 0.99/TP | 1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | 1.01/TP | 1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | 1.22/TP | 1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | 1.27/TP | 1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | 1.31/TP | 470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | 1.31/TP | 1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | 1.34/TP | 1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | 1.67/TP | 1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | 1.81/TP | 72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | 1.89/TP | 377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | 1.89/TP | 1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | 1.91/TP | 1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for 20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | 2.56/TP | 410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | 1.85/TP | 444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | 1.91/TP | 765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | 2.24/TP | 942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to 865 (2.06/TP)
22JAN | 2.29/TP | 640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | 0.39/TP | 484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | 0.55/TP | 298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | 0.57/TP | 554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | 0.80/TP | 15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | 0.84/TP | 772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | 0.87/TP | 808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | 1.00/TP | 663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | 1.05 | 253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | 1.27/TP | 1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | 1.37/TP | 578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | 1.43/TP | 400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | 1.67/TP | 66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | 1.06/TP | 705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|1.24/TP | 668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | 1.25/TP | 440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | 1.68/TP | 1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | 1.43/TP | 803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | 1.86/TP | 856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | 1.26/TP | 707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | 1.68/TP | 940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | 0.89/TP | 748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | 2.00/TP | 1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under 300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under 500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for 520
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
- from DUB to US IJN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - 1,074, MIA - 1,119, LAS - 1,224, LAX - 1,296, HNL - 1,623, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over Easter and summer 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - 920, MIA - 958, LAS - 1,048, LAX - 1,110, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over November and Christmas & New Year 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILR28AP reported here, e.g. JFK - 1,538, MIA - 1,601, LAS - 1,751, LAX - 1,854, HNL - 1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4E1 reported here, e.g. JFK - 1,538, MIA - 1,601, LAS - 1,751, LAX - 1,854, HNL - 1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for 75, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILR21AP reported here, e.g. JFK - 890, MIA - 1,132, ORD - 942, LAX - 1,277, HNL - 1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILN2S4E1 reported here, JFK - 890, MIA - 1,132, ORD - 942, LAX - 1,277, HNL - 1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for 75, see linked post for details
- ILN2S4Z1 from OSL to HNL (19.5k/21.5k NOK (1,520/1,675) via. LON or via. HEL & LON)
PERMITTED 23NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 22DEC 15 THROUGH
01JAN 16 OR 27MAR 16 THROUGH 31MAR 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under 3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
From Europe
17DEC | 0.75/TP | 909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | 0.93/TP | 335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | 0.99/TP | 1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | 1.01/TP | 1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | 1.22/TP | 1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | 1.27/TP | 1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | 1.31/TP | 470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | 1.31/TP | 1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | 1.34/TP | 1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | 1.67/TP | 1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | 1.81/TP | 72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | 1.89/TP | 377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | 1.89/TP | 1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | 1.91/TP | 1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for 20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | 2.56/TP | 410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | 1.85/TP | 444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | 1.91/TP | 765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | 2.24/TP | 942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to 865 (2.06/TP)
22JAN | 2.29/TP | 640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | 0.39/TP | 484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | 0.55/TP | 298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | 0.57/TP | 554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | 0.80/TP | 15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | 0.84/TP | 772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | 0.87/TP | 808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | 1.00/TP | 663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | 1.05 | 253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | 1.27/TP | 1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | 1.37/TP | 578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | 1.43/TP | 400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | 1.67/TP | 66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | 1.06/TP | 705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|1.24/TP | 668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | 1.25/TP | 440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | 1.68/TP | 1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | 1.43/TP | 803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | 1.86/TP | 856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | 1.26/TP | 707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | 1.68/TP | 940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | 0.89/TP | 748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | 2.00/TP | 1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under 300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under 500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for 520
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 master thread
#3271
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 17,292
Following my quest to book CPH-LHR-PHL-CLT-JFK-LHR-CPH, I can now confirm that the tickets have been booked.
It took me quite some time and patience.
As already mentioned above, the first Dutch agent for BAEC was no success.
The second call went to AA in the UK, where a nice guy tried to sort out all issues but left me stranded when he was looking for technical help in the backoffice. After 25 min. of silence, HUCA
The third call goes to BAEC in Denmark where they only work during office hours :-(
And finally, my fourth call goes to: AA in the UK where a very helpful woman not only understood my problem, she actually found the missing flights. However, when pricing the whole itinerary, her best price was way above my best price on the matrix.
So I almost surrendered. But then I started playing around with the 'Search by Price' option on the AA.com site. I would normally automatically use 'Search by Schedule'. However by using 'Search by Price' combined with 50 flights and no stops, I found AND the missing flights AND the price suggested on the ITA matrix.
Finally :-)
It took me quite some time and patience.
As already mentioned above, the first Dutch agent for BAEC was no success.
The second call went to AA in the UK, where a nice guy tried to sort out all issues but left me stranded when he was looking for technical help in the backoffice. After 25 min. of silence, HUCA
The third call goes to BAEC in Denmark where they only work during office hours :-(
And finally, my fourth call goes to: AA in the UK where a very helpful woman not only understood my problem, she actually found the missing flights. However, when pricing the whole itinerary, her best price was way above my best price on the matrix.
So I almost surrendered. But then I started playing around with the 'Search by Price' option on the AA.com site. I would normally automatically use 'Search by Schedule'. However by using 'Search by Price' combined with 50 flights and no stops, I found AND the missing flights AND the price suggested on the ITA matrix.
Finally :-)
#3272
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: @somewhere, if help needed use my email address
Programs: BA & QR
Posts: 1,014
Dear Experts,
obviously I'm doing something wrong when pricing / searching the ITA matrix and/or the ba.com / aa.com websites.
For the last couple of days I've been playing around with following route:
CPH - LHR
LHR - PHL
PHL - CLT
CLT - JFK
JFK - LHR
LHR - CPH
Initial price last Thursday was 918 GPB, currently priced at 930 GBP.
Itinerary
Copenhagen (CPH) to London (LHR) — Sat, Nov 28
American Airlines Inc. 6532
London (LHR) to Philadelphia (PHL) — Sat, Nov 28
American Airlines Inc. 729
Philadelphia (PHL) to Charlotte (CLT) — Sat, Nov 28
American Airlines Inc. 1795
Charlotte (CLT) to New York (JFK) — Sun, Nov 29
American Airlines Inc. 529
New York (JFK) to London (LHR) — Sun, Nov 29
British Airways 174
London (LHR) to Copenhagen (CPH) — Mon, Nov 30
British Airways 814
929.99
I'm not able to make the booking on AA.com nor on BA.com
So I called the BAEC call center in Belgium (home) and I was switched to the The Netherlands.
They told me they could not get me the flights I was asking for, resulting in a +2000 EUR price!
I said I would do my homework again.
Came up with a new scheme (see above) and called BAEC in the UK this morning.
Although ITA gives me availability on the second leg (LHR-PHL), the woman on the phone said she only had economy space available!
What I am doing wrong here? Any idea why I can't find the applicable flight numbers on AA.com? Why is ITA giving me space and the call center agents can't see it?
Should I call another BAEC call center, call AA perhaps?
Thanks for helping me with me first TP run.
Regards,
Stan
obviously I'm doing something wrong when pricing / searching the ITA matrix and/or the ba.com / aa.com websites.
For the last couple of days I've been playing around with following route:
CPH - LHR
LHR - PHL
PHL - CLT
CLT - JFK
JFK - LHR
LHR - CPH
Initial price last Thursday was 918 GPB, currently priced at 930 GBP.
Itinerary
Copenhagen (CPH) to London (LHR) — Sat, Nov 28
American Airlines Inc. 6532
London (LHR) to Philadelphia (PHL) — Sat, Nov 28
American Airlines Inc. 729
Philadelphia (PHL) to Charlotte (CLT) — Sat, Nov 28
American Airlines Inc. 1795
Charlotte (CLT) to New York (JFK) — Sun, Nov 29
American Airlines Inc. 529
New York (JFK) to London (LHR) — Sun, Nov 29
British Airways 174
London (LHR) to Copenhagen (CPH) — Mon, Nov 30
British Airways 814
929.99
I'm not able to make the booking on AA.com nor on BA.com
So I called the BAEC call center in Belgium (home) and I was switched to the The Netherlands.
They told me they could not get me the flights I was asking for, resulting in a +2000 EUR price!
I said I would do my homework again.
Came up with a new scheme (see above) and called BAEC in the UK this morning.
Although ITA gives me availability on the second leg (LHR-PHL), the woman on the phone said she only had economy space available!
What I am doing wrong here? Any idea why I can't find the applicable flight numbers on AA.com? Why is ITA giving me space and the call center agents can't see it?
Should I call another BAEC call center, call AA perhaps?
Thanks for helping me with me first TP run.
Regards,
Stan
Following my quest to book CPH-LHR-PHL-CLT-JFK-LHR-CPH, I can now confirm that the tickets have been booked.
It took me quite some time and patience.
As already mentioned above, the first Dutch agent for BAEC was no success.
The second call went to AA in the UK, where a nice guy tried to sort out all issues but left me stranded when he was looking for technical help in the backoffice. After 25 min. of silence, HUCA
The third call goes to BAEC in Denmark where they only work during office hours :-(
And finally, my fourth call goes to: AA in the UK where a very helpful woman not only understood my problem, she actually found the missing flights. However, when pricing the whole itinerary, her best price was way above my best price on the matrix.
So I almost surrendered. But then I started playing around with the 'Search by Price' option on the AA.com site. I would normally automatically use 'Search by Schedule'. However by using 'Search by Price' combined with 50 flights and no stops, I found AND the missing flights AND the price suggested on the ITA matrix.
Finally :-)
It took me quite some time and patience.
As already mentioned above, the first Dutch agent for BAEC was no success.
The second call went to AA in the UK, where a nice guy tried to sort out all issues but left me stranded when he was looking for technical help in the backoffice. After 25 min. of silence, HUCA
The third call goes to BAEC in Denmark where they only work during office hours :-(
And finally, my fourth call goes to: AA in the UK where a very helpful woman not only understood my problem, she actually found the missing flights. However, when pricing the whole itinerary, her best price was way above my best price on the matrix.
So I almost surrendered. But then I started playing around with the 'Search by Price' option on the AA.com site. I would normally automatically use 'Search by Schedule'. However by using 'Search by Price' combined with 50 flights and no stops, I found AND the missing flights AND the price suggested on the ITA matrix.
Finally :-)
Was able pricing it for gbp978 as flights shown above.
Domestic flights booked in the P-class. Maybe they booked A-class.
But at the end you succeeded ^.
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#3273
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#3274
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Final price: 926,31 GBP
So TP/p comes at 1,92
not bad for a first time booking and run I like to say to myself :-)
Flights as shown below give me 480 TP
CPH - LHR => in J
LHR - PHL => in I
PHL - CLT => in A
CLT - JFK => in P
JFK - LHR => in I
LHR - CPH => in J
Rgrds,
Stan
So TP/p comes at 1,92
not bad for a first time booking and run I like to say to myself :-)
CPH - LHR => in J
LHR - PHL => in I
PHL - CLT => in A
CLT - JFK => in P
JFK - LHR => in I
LHR - CPH => in J
Rgrds,
Stan
#3275
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: BA Executive Club
Posts: 124
Hi all, just looking for my first TP run and found this routing on ITA;
PHX - LAS A321 P class AA Flt number Operated by US Airways 29Aug
LAS - LAX B737 P class AA 29Aug
LAX - MCO B737 P class AA 29Aug
MCO - MIA B737 P class AA 30Aug
MIA - PTY B737 I class AA 30 Aug
PTY - MIA B737 I class AA 31Aug
MIA - MCO B737 P class AA 31Aug
MCO - LAX A321 (Sharklets) P class AA 31 Aug
LAX - LAS B737 P class AA 31Aug
LAS - PHX A320 P class US Airways (no AA flight number) 01Sep
ITA Price - 649
Travel Agent - 698
By my calculations it is 860 TPs, can someone be kind enough to check this before I book please?
Brgds
AX
PHX - LAS A321 P class AA Flt number Operated by US Airways 29Aug
LAS - LAX B737 P class AA 29Aug
LAX - MCO B737 P class AA 29Aug
MCO - MIA B737 P class AA 30Aug
MIA - PTY B737 I class AA 30 Aug
PTY - MIA B737 I class AA 31Aug
MIA - MCO B737 P class AA 31Aug
MCO - LAX A321 (Sharklets) P class AA 31 Aug
LAX - LAS B737 P class AA 31Aug
LAS - PHX A320 P class US Airways (no AA flight number) 01Sep
ITA Price - 649
Travel Agent - 698
By my calculations it is 860 TPs, can someone be kind enough to check this before I book please?
Brgds
AX
#3276
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 674
Hi all, just looking for my first TP run and found this routing on ITA;
PHX - LAS A321 P class AA Flt number Operated by US Airways 29Aug
LAS - LAX B737 P class AA 29Aug
LAX - MCO B737 P class AA 29Aug
MCO - MIA B737 P class AA 30Aug
MIA - PTY B737 I class AA 30 Aug
PTY - MIA B737 I class AA 31Aug
MIA - MCO B737 P class AA 31Aug
MCO - LAX A321 (Sharklets) P class AA 31 Aug
LAX - LAS B737 P class AA 31Aug
LAS - PHX A320 P class US Airways (no AA flight number) 01Sep
ITA Price - 649
Travel Agent - 698
By my calculations it is 860 TPs, can someone be kind enough to check this before I book please?
Brgds
AX
PHX - LAS A321 P class AA Flt number Operated by US Airways 29Aug
LAS - LAX B737 P class AA 29Aug
LAX - MCO B737 P class AA 29Aug
MCO - MIA B737 P class AA 30Aug
MIA - PTY B737 I class AA 30 Aug
PTY - MIA B737 I class AA 31Aug
MIA - MCO B737 P class AA 31Aug
MCO - LAX A321 (Sharklets) P class AA 31 Aug
LAX - LAS B737 P class AA 31Aug
LAS - PHX A320 P class US Airways (no AA flight number) 01Sep
ITA Price - 649
Travel Agent - 698
By my calculations it is 860 TPs, can someone be kind enough to check this before I book please?
Brgds
AX
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Housekeeping notice
The wiki has been given a clean slate with all the useful historical data points archived. I'll update the first post to include current AA/US routes ranging in excess of 2,000 miles. This should keep the wiki post bang up-to-date, tight n concise and avoid duplicating information contained in the opening post.
Thanks for your assistance.
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Thanks for your assistance.
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Join Date: Aug 2014
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Posts: 62
how to put it in the Matrix?
Also will highlight this exGER BA sale to HKG in J as mentioned on HFP www.headforpoints.com/2015/07/10/1000-club-world-british-airways-flights-to-hong-kong/
1003 Germany to HKG.
Hi Karfa,
Could you please show me how you put this in ITA?
Thanks in advance!
Unlike the QR sales which are QR metal only, this one is very flexible in terms of routings and transfers. As noted on HFP "You can also fly from Germany to London to Singapore, Shanghai, Bangkok, Chengdu, Beijing or Kuala Lumpur, and then connect to Hong Kong using another oneworld airline."
You could do something like FRA-LHR-SIN-HKG-BKK-SIN-LHR-FRA which prices at 1018.
Also you can do a stopover in the UK but you would then pay APD (142). However, it does mean you can for example do FRA-LHR before 16 August, then do the rest anytime after and the cost would be ~1145.
EDIT: by way of example of doing the first leg before 16 August, then the rest next year including a stopover in SIN:
This would earn 40+160+40+40+40+40+160+40=560 TPs. Obvioulsy the BA LHR-SIN flights can be UuA'ed if you can find reward availability.
FUTHER EDIT: you could of course move your LHR-TXL flight later on as well, so just get off at LHR and do LHR-TXL at some date in the future, you would pay 26 more in APD and I think maybe ~20 in additional Passenger Service Charge.
1003 Germany to HKG.
Hi Karfa,
Could you please show me how you put this in ITA?
Thanks in advance!
Unlike the QR sales which are QR metal only, this one is very flexible in terms of routings and transfers. As noted on HFP "You can also fly from Germany to London to Singapore, Shanghai, Bangkok, Chengdu, Beijing or Kuala Lumpur, and then connect to Hong Kong using another oneworld airline."
You could do something like FRA-LHR-SIN-HKG-BKK-SIN-LHR-FRA which prices at 1018.
Also you can do a stopover in the UK but you would then pay APD (142). However, it does mean you can for example do FRA-LHR before 16 August, then do the rest anytime after and the cost would be ~1145.
EDIT: by way of example of doing the first leg before 16 August, then the rest next year including a stopover in SIN:
This would earn 40+160+40+40+40+40+160+40=560 TPs. Obvioulsy the BA LHR-SIN flights can be UuA'ed if you can find reward availability.
FUTHER EDIT: you could of course move your LHR-TXL flight later on as well, so just get off at LHR and do LHR-TXL at some date in the future, you would pay 26 more in APD and I think maybe ~20 in additional Passenger Service Charge.
#3282
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The wiki has been given a clean slate with all the useful historical data points archived. I'll update the first post to include current AA/US routes ranging in excess of 2,000 miles. This should keep the wiki post bang up-to-date, tight n concise and avoid duplicating information contained in the opening post.
Thanks for your assistance.
Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
Prospero
Moderator: BA forum
Thanks for your assistance.
Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
Prospero
Moderator: BA forum
I have added back in the reference information from the bottom of the wiki as that was up to date. In terms of current promotions of interest I think there are advanced purchase deals from DUB and CPH to the US and also the exGermany HKG deal - I will try and make time to add the details to the wiki soon, although there are some posts on them recently.
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Actually I take you point about duplicating information in the wiki and the first few posts. I try and keep the wiki reference information up to date though and update new 2000+ routes, SH+ routes etc. Perhaps when the posts are updated just a link from the wiki to the specific relevant posts would be fine?
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