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  • from DUB to US IJN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,074, MIA - €1,119, LAS - €1,224, LAX - €1,296, HNL - €1,623, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over Easter and summer 2016, see linked post for details
  • from DUB to US ILN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €920, MIA - €958, LAS - €1,048, LAX - €1,110, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over November and Christmas & New Year 2016, see linked post for details

  • from DUB to US ILR28AP reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
  • from DUB to US ILN8S4E1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details

  • from CPH to US ILR21AP reported here, e.g. JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
  • from CPH to US ILN2S4E1 reported here, JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details

  • ILN2S4Z1 from OSL to HNL (19.5k/21.5k NOK (£1,520/£1,675) via. LON or via. HEL & LON)
    PERMITTED 23NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 22DEC 15 THROUGH
    01JAN 16 OR 27MAR 16 THROUGH 31MAR 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
    TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note the following:
  • Current availability is not guaranteed.
  • All prices include taxes.

Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:

Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | £0.93/TP | £335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | £1.01/TP | £1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.22/TP | £1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.27/TP | £1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | £1.31/TP | £1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | £1.34/TP | £1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer

From North, Central and South America
31JUL | £0.39/TP | £484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | £0.55/TP | £298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | £0.57/TP | £554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | £0.80/TP | £15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | £0.87/TP | £808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | £1.00/TP | £663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | £1.05 | £253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | £1.37/TP | £578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | £1.43/TP | £400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | £1.25/TP | £440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | £1.68/TP | £1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | £1.43/TP | £803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH

From Africa
11AUG | £0.89/TP | £748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | £2.00/TP | £1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?

Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)

Or a slightly more interesting fun run

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 8:17 am
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The question is.... what is Gold worth to you next BAEC year? Seems alot of money to me for moderate gain..... (says the guy going Bronze - GGL in 6 months )
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 8:21 am
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It's not even a year's worth of gold.

Assuming that the TP year expires on 8 February, doing a DUB - HNL run in February or March would more or less get the tier points for gold for a whole extra year before Mikeday1983 drops (?) to silver, if he is currently gold, probably for similar cost.

So instead of securing gold for 2015/16, he'd be gold (with a little extra flying) for the remainder of 15/16, all of 16/17, and at least silver for 17/18.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by Cymro
It's not even a year's worth of gold.

Assuming that the TP year expires on 8 February, doing a DUB - HNL run in February or March would more or less get the tier points for gold for a whole extra year before Mikeday1983 drops (?) to silver, if he is currently gold, probably for similar cost.

So instead of securing gold for 2015/16, he'd be gold (with a little extra flying) for the remainder of 15/16, all of 16/17, and at least silver for 17/18.
I concur ^
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 8:23 am
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The question is.... what is Gold worth to you next BAEC year? Seems alot of money to me for moderate gain..... (says the guy going Bronze - GGL in 6 months )
I have been asking myself that. Work trips have gotten me to ~1100 TP's I have to date and it seems a shame for some 500TP's to go to waste. A change of jobs means work travel wont be as frequent this year.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by mikeday1983
I have been asking myself that. Work trips have gotten me to ~1100 TP's I have to date and it seems a shame for some 500TP's to go to waste. A change of jobs means work travel wont be as frequent this year.
Book a decent sale fare far enough in advance and you can bag 1500TP for the same price as the QR etc stuff above - seems silly to shoot for Gold without a purpose if you don't need GPR and FLongue access
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 8:33 am
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500 TPs is 5/6th of the qualification for silver though.

It's entirely up to you but you can do DUB - HNL for £1,045 at the end of March - that's under £1 per tier point (1,050), without playing too much with routing codes.

That's AA 723/1839/692 DUB - PHL - PHX - HNL on the way out and 298/2/290 on the way back, from March 31st to April 4th.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 8:41 am
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I have copied across the 2014 thread wiki. I will have to have a look are revising it a bit and will do so in the next week or so.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 9:48 am
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BA vs The Matrix

Happy New Year folks! Apologies for the post subject line sounding like a Hollywood blockbuster :-)

Having spent much of my online time in 2014 carefully studying this forum (and thus reaching Silver much quicker than I otherwise might - thanks, all!!), I'm looking to put together a trip to the US next August and to maximise my TPs in the process.

I constructed the following intinerary and the matrix priced it up at £1697.29. Pretty good for 1030 TPs, I thought... however when calling BA to try and make the booking, their quote was nowehere near....

Mon Aug 10
DUB to LHR, BA 829, Class J
dep 4.15pm arr 5.35pm

Tues Aug 11
LHR to BOS, BA 213, Class I
dep 11.15am arr 1.25pm

BOS to LAX, AA 143, Class A
dep 4.35pm arr 7.56pm

Sun Aug 16
LAX to PHX, AA 569, Class P
dep 12.40pm arr 2.05pm

PHX to SEA, AA 566, Class P
dep 4.39pm arr 7.31pm

Sun Aug 23
SEA to MIA, AA 1070, Class A
dep 11.44pm arr 8.23am

Mon 24
MIA to JFK, AA 130, Class A
dep 12.15pm arr 3.14pm

JFK to LCY, BA 2, Class I
dep 7.00pm arr 7.15am

Tue 25
LCY - DUB, BA 4462, Class J
dep 8.50am arr 10.05am

BA's quote came in at £2921.69 for this itinerary. I made sure to state that the AA flights should be booked under the AA flight codes to ensure the correct class and according TP allocation - that's right, yes?. The BA advsier said that the first three and final two flights were all quoted at the sale prices, but that the four AA flights were not. I'm clearly making a rookie mistake here, for all my study of this forum.

I'd be hugely grateful for some guidance on this. Can anyone shed some light on where I'm going wrong?
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 10:01 am
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Stopovers.

You effectively have a series of flights that (ignoring intermediate steps) could be broken down as

DUB-LAX
LAX-SEA
SEA-MIA
MIA-DUB

Only DUB-LAX and MIA-DUB are actually TATL. The gap between SEA-MIA and MIA-DUB is also more than 24h and therefore it is a stopover rather than a long connection.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 10:22 am
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Thanks Cymro - that does make sense overall. Excepting the SEA to MIA flight leaves at quarter to midnight. The layover in MIA is only four hours. Does that still count as a stopover, given this scenario?

That said, the routing back to DUB isn't all that important to me. If anyone has a better (TP maximising) return routing from the US leaving either the evening of Sun 23rd or sometime the following day, I'll be very pleased to consider it.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
I have copied across the 2014 thread wiki. I will have to have a look are revising it a bit and will do so in the next week or so.
As discussed previously, I would like to see the wiki organized by sale/fare code, with enough information for someone to reproduce the price on matrix. Would be glad to help with that.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by SadKingBilly
As discussed previously, I would like to see the wiki organized by sale/fare code, with enough information for someone to reproduce the price on matrix. Would be glad to help with that.
I am quite a fan of the current revised format by continent/locations, it's very useful when planning around places, rather than sales

But I agree the reproducibility of the fares could be nice! - this could perhaps be solved by posting the whole ITA output into the posts on this thread and then linking each particular post-numbers to the wiki (same as we do for North America/HNL meet-up thread)
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 11:25 am
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Primosec52 using AA.com I got your flights at £1717. Fared at the IL28SALE fare DUB-LAX//SEA0DUB and then the LAX-PDX-SEA part is a standard domestic discounted first ticket.

on AA.com use the 'multi-city' search tool , and "search by schedule" - set the "Connections" option to "1 stop or less" & display: "50 flights". choose "restricted business" as the class and "AA and oneworld airlines" as the carrier and you should be able to select that exact itinerary (search for DUB-BOS//BOS-LAX//LAX-SEA//SEA-MIA//MIA-LCY//LCY-DUB)

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Old Jan 2, 2015, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77
I am quite a fan of the current revised format by continent/locations, it's very useful when planning around places, rather than sales

But I agree the reproducibility of the fares could be nice! - this could perhaps be solved by posting the whole ITA output into the posts on this thread and then linking each particular post-numbers to the wiki (same as we do for North America/HNL meet-up thread)
The problem I see with current format is that wiki accumulates a lot of duplicate/outdated entries, while not providing essential information, such as allowed travel period and the end date of the sale. In all recent cases good TP run opportunities were associated with some specific sale/fare code, so it feels natural (at least to me ) to organize the information that way. It also makes it simple to keep it up to date.
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Old Jan 2, 2015, 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas
Great work thanks Prospero. Especially looking into the further flung oneworld members such as JJ ^

I notice that the QF graph is missing SYD-DFW, although you did remember that one in the text.

Currently US markets their Canadian/Caribbean routes as First, but that will surely change soon.
Thanks Calchas,

I've updated the QF image and made a note of your point about the differences between AA and US Canadian/Caribbean routes.
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