Final 747s to be refitted with New First
Dec 21, 2014, 7:13 pm
#46
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Well that's interesting, not least because I'm booked to YVR in April in Club, and had managed to snag 2A there and back whilst F was suspended. I wonder where they will boot me to...
ETA: and the answer was 18J, without telling me of any changes. Fortunately there was still UD space available, but there's potential to get turned over here...
ETA: and the answer was 18J, without telling me of any changes. Fortunately there was still UD space available, but there's potential to get turned over here...
Dec 21, 2014, 7:32 pm
#47
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I thought the policy was that the OF seats were only opened up for CW assignment once CW was full, allowing BA to sell an additional 14 CW seats (and 0 F seats) on these flights. On a lightly loaded flight, the F cabin would sit empty. If so, then the fact that you were able to select 2A in the first place seems to indicate that more CW seats were sold than physically exist, which means it's highly likely that some CW passengers on your flight will get op ups and sit in NF with full F service. Of course, that may not be you, but at minimum a good CW seat may open up in this way.
Dec 22, 2014, 12:21 am
#48
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Originally Posted by Flying Doctor
All very interesting.
A CCR in T3 - that would be great but would de facto mean more flights going over to T3. I don't think that it will happen but there is clearly space for it now *A have left. It also allows growth for BA as T5 close to full already. I guess a whole region would have to go to T3 - South America has IB in T5 so counterproductive, the U.S. would work well with AA but connections would be problematic, Africa would be good or maybe SE Asia along with SYD going back.....
The 787-9 is interesting - it might get to go on some of these routes during low season but these routes do get very full in their respective peak seasons...
FD.
Hi,
There are a number of flights moving to T3 during 2015. Whether this would justify a CCR , who knows?
Regards
TBS
PS - a listing of the flights can be found in the first post here;
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...nal-moves.html
Originally Posted by Flying Doctor
All very interesting.
A CCR in T3 - that would be great but would de facto mean more flights going over to T3. I don't think that it will happen but there is clearly space for it now *A have left. It also allows growth for BA as T5 close to full already. I guess a whole region would have to go to T3 - South America has IB in T5 so counterproductive, the U.S. would work well with AA but connections would be problematic, Africa would be good or maybe SE Asia along with SYD going back.....
The 787-9 is interesting - it might get to go on some of these routes during low season but these routes do get very full in their respective peak seasons...
FD.
Hi,
There are a number of flights moving to T3 during 2015. Whether this would justify a CCR , who knows?
Regards
TBS
PS - a listing of the flights can be found in the first post here;
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...nal-moves.html
FD.
Dec 22, 2014, 9:18 am
#49
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Thanks Jonas123 for the heads up. Like others on this thread, I had a CW redemption flight with seats selected in the "declassified" OF section and would have had to put up with the reassigned positions in the lower deck if you hadn't bothered posting!
Dec 22, 2014, 9:28 am
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Dec 22, 2014, 5:20 pm
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I thought the policy was that the OF seats were only opened up for CW assignment once CW was full, allowing BA to sell an additional 14 CW seats (and 0 F seats) on these flights. On a lightly loaded flight, the F cabin would sit empty. If so, then the fact that you were able to select 2A in the first place seems to indicate that more CW seats were sold than physically exist, which means it's highly likely that some CW passengers on your flight will get op ups and sit in NF with full F service. Of course, that may not be you, but at minimum a good CW seat may open up in this way.
Dec 22, 2014, 5:24 pm
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Dec 23, 2014, 6:36 am
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That's not been my experience, as they seem to open the front cabin up regardless of load in other cabins. I've booked in the front when the lower deck had only a couple of seats assigned. Of course I've not see empty seats in CW on any of my PHX-LHR route in a few years.
Dec 23, 2014, 7:22 am
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Dec 23, 2014, 7:23 am
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I thought the policy was that the OF seats were only opened up for CW assignment once CW was full, allowing BA to sell an additional 14 CW seats (and 0 F seats) on these flights. On a lightly loaded flight, the F cabin would sit empty. If so, then the fact that you were able to select 2A in the first place seems to indicate that more CW seats were sold than physically exist, which means it's highly likely that some CW passengers on your flight will get op ups and sit in NF with full F service. Of course, that may not be you, but at minimum a good CW seat may open up in this way.
Dec 23, 2014, 4:33 pm
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The mainstream bloggers have noticed this change, and started announcing that award space in first on these routes is as open as it gets. So if you were planning to book an F seat on these routes, or UuA from CW to F, do it quick (especially on the YVR route).
Dec 23, 2014, 4:38 pm
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Uh, right. I've literally just booked a CW LHR-LAS for July which features an OF bird, and, naturally, I placed my party in the nose as I was able to do so.
Should I move us upstairs or leave as-is? Will BA open up the F cabin for sale by July?
Should I move us upstairs or leave as-is? Will BA open up the F cabin for sale by July?
Dec 23, 2014, 9:53 pm
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I'd leave it as-is. They don't tend to change mid season (their seasons are aligned with when daylight savings time starts and ends in the UK.
Dec 24, 2014, 2:07 am
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Thanks for the Welcome. I have CW booked in the F seats on LHR to Las Vegas in March and to date the seats remain as 5E and 5F but I think I will keep checking them. Will let you know outcome
Dec 24, 2014, 3:27 am
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Welcome to Flyertalk philthegreek
And a belated welcome from me, welcome to Flyertalk philthegreek, and welcome to the BA board. Please continue to post here, we do like to see people joining up with us here. Welcome on board. And I'm glad you managed to spot what was going on there. Look forward to the full First experience, that flight is long enough for you to take it all in.