Crossrail and LHR T5
Jul 5, 2017, 5:00 pm
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Yes. The plan is cross rail will use the HEX platforms at T2/3.
Jul 5, 2017, 5:04 pm
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Probably doable but I imagine you'd have have issues with the radii of the curves required and the resulting limited speeds thereby reducing the number of paths available on the GWML due to the need to accelerate back up to linespeed vs through trains already doing 125 (as the linespeed increases up to that around Southall).
https://goo.gl/maps/nWbNNv1Qadq
You'd have to buy out Ocado West Drayton and the other businesses in that quadrangle between the present spur to the east, the lake to the south, the mainline to the north, and Stockley Road to the west. And I can see that the existing bridge over the mainline for Stockley Road might cause difficulties, particularly if you want something as complex as the points they've set up on the way west to London. But would it really be harder and more expensive to fit something in there than digging a 5.5 mile tunnel?
Jul 5, 2017, 5:13 pm
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You've got to also consider the cost of remodelling the railway in that area which is already complicated - and has just been substantially upgraded with resignalling and overhead catenary (to facilitate GWR electric services to Maidenhead recently started)...
Overall the cost/benefit is probably on the side of a tunnel.
Overall the cost/benefit is probably on the side of a tunnel.
Mar 16, 2018, 2:41 am
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Crossrail fares will match Tube prices across most of London but Heathrow passengers will be charged a premium, it was announced today.
Travelling between the airport and zone 1 in central London at peak times will cost £12.10 - £7 more than the same journey on the Piccadilly line.
Passengers travelling between zone 2 and the airport will pay a Heathrow premium of £4.50 compared with the Tube.
Travelling between the airport and zone 1 in central London at peak times will cost £12.10 - £7 more than the same journey on the Piccadilly line.
Passengers travelling between zone 2 and the airport will pay a Heathrow premium of £4.50 compared with the Tube.
Mar 16, 2018, 3:21 am
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They're still saying the prices will be the same as the tube...!
Mar 16, 2018, 3:33 am
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Surely this is going to result in a lowering of prices from HEx?! A 30 day advance fare Paddington - LHR is £12.20 plus my £2.40 to get down to Paddington, but Crossrail will be £2.50 cheaper as a walk-up fare and therefore only worth booking well in advance if you can get a £5.50, 90 day advance ticket. I never get the Connect as it is twice as long and I always book in advance so rarely cheaper, but I can only really see corporate types arriving at Paddington in a cab paying the £25ish walk on fare, everyone else would be getting a through-ticket from town? I would imagine that someone coming from town would be better of changing at LHR for T5 rather than Paddington although I suppose we will have to wait and see how the interchanges are at the various stations in terms of ease of navigating the system with luggage.
Mar 16, 2018, 3:38 am
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I'll happily pay the supplement of £7 to save 1/2 an hour on a Farringdon - T5 trip rather than the district and Piccadilly lines.
Here is the Mayor's Decision Record that was actually published on the 2nd of March.
Mar 16, 2018, 3:38 am
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"Mayor Sadiq Khan said: “I’m delighted to announce that the cost of travelling on the Elizabeth Line in zones 1-6 will be the same price as a similar journey on the Tube – fulfilling a key manifesto pledge to deliver truly world-class transport infrastructure which is also accessible and affordable for all Londoners.”
They're still saying the prices will be the same as the tube...!
They're still saying the prices will be the same as the tube...!
Mar 16, 2018, 3:47 am
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Surely this is going to result in a lowering of prices from HEx?! A 30 day advance fare Paddington - LHR is £12.20 plus my £2.40 to get down to Paddington, but Crossrail will be £2.50 cheaper as a walk-up fare and therefore only worth booking well in advance if you can get a £5.50, 90 day advance ticket. I never get the Connect as it is twice as long and I always book in advance so rarely cheaper, but I can only really see corporate types arriving at Paddington in a cab paying the £25ish walk on fare, everyone else would be getting a through-ticket from town? I would imagine that someone coming from town would be better of changing at LHR for T5 rather than Paddington although I suppose we will have to wait and see how the interchanges are at the various stations in terms of ease of navigating the system with luggage.
If you are coming from or need to go somewhere on the Piccadilly or District lines taking the tube still makes sense.
Mar 16, 2018, 3:48 am
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Transport for London hopes [Crossrail] will boost revenues by more than £200 million a year but admits some Tube passengers will switch to the new line, which will eventually link Reading with Sheffield
Mar 16, 2018, 4:34 am
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To be fair the HEX advance fares are more flexible than National Rail advance fares, on the HEX you just specify the day you're travelling rather than the specific train but the Crossrail fares beat most of the HEX advance fares (exceptions are weekend ones bought a long time in advance) it's also worth taking into account the price capping if you're using other tube, rail, bus services within London that day
Mar 16, 2018, 10:49 am
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Crossrail Fares Incl Heathrow Announced
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...91496.html?amp
Not unexpected that a peak single on the new Elizabeth Line to Heathrow will be £7 more than the tube at £12.10 where people from zone 2 will have a £4.50 premium. Will this change the way you get to LHR?
I rarely use use the Heathrow Express unless I can get one of the advanced tickets at the weekend. Might try Crossrail once but for me I’ll probably stick to the tube.
Mods please move if necessary started here as most BA users could be interested.
Not unexpected that a peak single on the new Elizabeth Line to Heathrow will be £7 more than the tube at £12.10 where people from zone 2 will have a £4.50 premium. Will this change the way you get to LHR?
I rarely use use the Heathrow Express unless I can get one of the advanced tickets at the weekend. Might try Crossrail once but for me I’ll probably stick to the tube.
Mods please move if necessary started here as most BA users could be interested.