789 Crown First - will it go across all long-haul?

Old Jul 10, 14, 4:44 am
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789 Crown First - will it go across all long-haul?

Does anyone know if BA plan to introduce the new "Crown First" seat from the 787-900 to other aircraft in the long-haul fleet? I would have thought it would fit in the 380, but less certain about the 777 without reducing the number of seats in the cabin. Still they managed to shoehorn Prime into the 747 so perhaps a cut down version would be possible.
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Old Jul 10, 14, 4:53 am
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Has there been any indication that the 787-9 F seats will be better than the current seats (other than being newer)?
Or that they will take up a larger footprint?
Or that they will be called 'Crown First'? (I think a previous generation of seats was called Crown)

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...next-year.html
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"Crown First" sounds like something KLM would have.
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Originally Posted by nux View Post
Has there been any indication that the 787-9 F seats will be better than the current seats (other than being newer)?
Yes
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Originally Posted by darthlemsip View Post
Yes
Fewer scratches?

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Fewer scratches?

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Old Jul 10, 14, 5:44 am
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Originally Posted by darthlemsip View Post
Yes
Can you elaborate? The teaser photos and information released (most linked in the thread above) does not indicate they are better seats, just 'evolved'.
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Originally Posted by nux View Post
Can you elaborate? The teaser photos and information released (most linked in the thread above) does not indicate they are better seats, just 'evolved'.
Frank van der Post said something like "they're a further development" (in comparison to the A380 seat). As the A380 seat is better than the 777 seat from which it as a further development, any further development of that will be better
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Old Jul 10, 14, 6:15 am
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Yes there will be a brand new seat in First on the 787-9, I do hope that they do not brand it as Crown as this will only tarnish the history of when BA had a First Class that was something to be proud of.
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Was Crown First Class actually any good? Here's a menu I dug out years ago from the old man's stash...this would have been 1980 I think.

British Airways Crown First Class Menu

London-Boston 7h10
Cocktails
Lunch
Afternoon Tea
Boston-Philadelphia 1h20

Aperitifs and Cocktails


Sweet and Dry Vermouth
Campari Soda
Ameircano . Negroni
Sherry: Dry . Medium . Sweet
Dry Martini: Gin . Vodka
Bloody Mary . Old Fashioned . Manhattan
Sours: Whisky . Gin . Brandy
Gin Fizz . Collins

Highballs: Whisky . Brandy . Gin . Rum

Champagne Cocktail


Spirits

Whisky: Scotch . Bourbon . Rye
West Indian Rums
Gin
Vodka


Beers

Ale . Lager


Soft Drinks

Squashes: Orange . Lemon . Lime
Colas . Ginger Ale
Bitter Lemon . Tonic Water


Wines

Fine vintage wines selected from the greate vineyards of Bordeaux, Burundy and the Rhine.

Champagne Brut . Grande Marque


Liquers

Drambuie . Cointreau . Kahlua
Cognac VSOP
Fonseca Bin 27 Port

London - Boston

Lunch
Dejeuner


Saumon d'ecosse aux crevette rouge . Sauce riche
A cutlet of fresh scotch salmon, poached in white wine with herbs. Garnished with prawns, asparagus spears and cucumber salad. Served with mayonnaise and caviar sauce.

Pate de gibier Waldorf
Game pie, dressed with aspic and garnished with spiced fruits in artichoke and apple, celery and walnut salad.

**********

Contrefilet de boeuf roti a l'anglais
Roast sirloin of beef, served in traditional english style with Yorkshire puddings and gravy.

Pintade aux groseille rouge
Braised breast of guinea fowl in a sauce of lightly thickened game gravy with red currants and brandy.

Filets de sole Cubat
Fillets of Dover sole poached with white wine, set on a bed of mushrooom puree and coated with cheese sauce garnished with truffle.

Legumes
Pan fried courgettes, buttered snow peas and rissolees potatoes.

**********

Salade composee
Mixed seasonal salad served with vinaigrette or roquefort dressing.

**********

Gateau aux fraises
A light sponge cake filled and decorated with strawberries and fresh dairy cream.

Parfait Glace
Ice cream flavoured with fruit and liqueurs.

**********

Choix de fromages
A selection of british and continental cheeses served with celery and crackers.

**********

Corbeille de Fruits
Basket of fresh fruits in season.

**********

Cafe . Cafe sans cafeine.
Coffee or caffeine free coffee, served with a variety of friandises or chocolate mints.

We apologise if, ownig to previous passenger selection, your choice is not available.


Afternoon Tea
The Anglais


Sandwiches divers
A selection of reception sandwiches

**********

Gallettes a l'anglais
Light fruit scones served with strawberry jam and Devonshire clotted cream

**********

Sachertorte
Rich chocolate gateau, filled with apricot jam and covered with chocolate icing.

**********

English Fruit Cake

**********

The . Cafe
Your choice of tea or coffee.
BTW - at the same time, the Concorde menu was

British Airways Concorde

British Airways welcomes you aboard its Concorde service London-Washington. 4h05.

(Assorted drinks selection identical to Crown First Class)


Wines

Champagne Grand Siecle
or
Heidsieck Dry Monopole 1975

(as available)

Bordeaux
Chateau la Dominique 1973

White Burgundy
Chablis 1979


Liqueurs

Remy Martin Napoleon Brandy
Drambuie . Cointreau . Kahlua
Fonseca Bin 27 Port


Jamaica Macanudo Cigars

Aperitifs - Champagne

Canapes
Galantine of chicken, caviar and smoken salmon


Lunch
Dejeuner


Langouste et homard . Sauce riche
Fresh crawfish poached with aromatic herbs. Garnished with lobster claw and served with sauce riche.

**********

Medaillons de veau sautes aux herbes
Pan fried veal steak, glazed with white wine and flavoured with a combination of herbs.

Terrine de turbotin Neptune
Fillet of young turbot with seafood mousse prepared in brandy flavoured lobster sauce.

Noisettes de chevreuil aux cerise amere
Marinated steaklets of venison, seared on a hot griddle, finished in rich game sauce and garnished with morello cherries.

Legumes
Buttered snow peas, glazed root vegtetables and sicilienne potatoes.

**********

Salade
Combination of celery, apple and walnuts moistened with mayonnaise and dressed with fresh figs.

**********

Choix de fromage
A selection of French St. Nectaire and Columiere, English Stilton and Cheddar cheese.

**********

Dessert
This colourful selection of woodland berries and seasonal fruit is served with dairy cream.

**********

Cafe
Freshly made coffee served with a selection of friandises and home made chocolates.
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Old Jul 10, 14, 6:26 am
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Looking forward to it, but will the -9 go anywhere worth visiting?


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Were those menus really on BA?. Seems more French on the menu than English!!!
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Old Jul 10, 14, 6:31 am
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Yes there are, in the past they were written in both languages, this would have been the same in all first class restaurants around the world.
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And French spoken in the kitchens too!
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Old Jul 10, 14, 6:49 am
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I see Monopole on that Concorde menu

Are the other Monopole variants any better than that served in CE? I seen silver top in a Hilton bar recently.
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