LCY-DUB announced
Jun 26, 2014, 6:20 am
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Why did this route fail the last time they tried it?
Currently AF still code shares with WX on this route. Is that likely an ongoing thing or just temporary?
Currently AF still code shares with WX on this route. Is that likely an ongoing thing or just temporary?
Jun 26, 2014, 6:28 am
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The DUB-CDG codeshare on WX is still shown for my selected dates in April. But not the DUB-LCY codeshare. Perhaps this means that the codeshare will be dropped early next year, but it's not definitive proof.
Jun 26, 2014, 6:58 am
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Route failed last time because cityflyer were flying the bae/rj which was leased from flightline off the top of my head.
Old airframes and leasing costs and also flightline went under around the same time.
I suspect wx will pull out of LCY at some stage and I'm not 100% certain flybe will come out ahead against BA and the E-Jets.
cs
Old airframes and leasing costs and also flightline went under around the same time.
I suspect wx will pull out of LCY at some stage and I'm not 100% certain flybe will come out ahead against BA and the E-Jets.
cs
Jun 26, 2014, 7:06 am
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It's great to see BA resume the route, but there's no way it can support 3 carriers.
BA certainly has an advantage on equipment (the WX RJ85s are due for replacement and BE's Q400s will certainly deter some people).
I'll probably switch to BA, since WX haven't bothered to set up a FFP to replace Flying Blue, but it is with a heavy heart as WX's reliability and timekeeping on the route has been nothing short of stunning. In 150 sectors over the last 4 years I've been delayed by more than 20 mins only 5 times, with 4 of those being fog related.
BA certainly has an advantage on equipment (the WX RJ85s are due for replacement and BE's Q400s will certainly deter some people).
I'll probably switch to BA, since WX haven't bothered to set up a FFP to replace Flying Blue, but it is with a heavy heart as WX's reliability and timekeeping on the route has been nothing short of stunning. In 150 sectors over the last 4 years I've been delayed by more than 20 mins only 5 times, with 4 of those being fog related.
Jun 26, 2014, 7:10 am
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If WX pulls out of LCY, they will effectively be throwing in the towel. It's their hub and abandoning it (for where?) would decimate the airline.
Jun 26, 2014, 7:21 am
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However, LCY is an expensive airport to operate expensive aircraft into, if BA start to turn the screws I suspect the WX routes will drop one by one.
I would love to be wrong as the industry needs the competition, but now that WX isn't part of the AF group I just can't personally see cityjet remaining at LCY / remaining on all the current routes.
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Jun 26, 2014, 7:24 am
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CityJet certainly is at a crossroads now that it has left the AF fold after over 15 years.
A much smaller CityJet once saw off the challenge of both Aer Lingus and British Airways on the DUB-LCY route back in the 1990s - when CityJet was little more than just DUB-LCY.The route was pioneered by CityJet - if they ever gave up on it, it would be almost the equivalent of BA abandoning Heathrow.
A much smaller CityJet once saw off the challenge of both Aer Lingus and British Airways on the DUB-LCY route back in the 1990s - when CityJet was little more than just DUB-LCY.The route was pioneered by CityJet - if they ever gave up on it, it would be almost the equivalent of BA abandoning Heathrow.
Jun 26, 2014, 7:25 am
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It's great to see BA resume the route, but there's no way it can support 3 carriers.
BA certainly has an advantage on equipment (the WX RJ85s are due for replacement and BE's Q400s will certainly deter some people).
I'll probably switch to BA, since WX haven't bothered to set up a FFP to replace Flying Blue, but it is with a heavy heart as WX's reliability and timekeeping on the route has been nothing short of stunning. In 150 sectors over the last 4 years I've been delayed by more than 20 mins only 5 times, with 4 of those being fog related.
BA certainly has an advantage on equipment (the WX RJ85s are due for replacement and BE's Q400s will certainly deter some people).
I'll probably switch to BA, since WX haven't bothered to set up a FFP to replace Flying Blue, but it is with a heavy heart as WX's reliability and timekeeping on the route has been nothing short of stunning. In 150 sectors over the last 4 years I've been delayed by more than 20 mins only 5 times, with 4 of those being fog related.
Jun 26, 2014, 7:30 am
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On my last half dozen flights the AF codeshare was €40-€100 more expensive than with WX directly. I like fasttrack access in DUB, but not that much! (The other FB benefits and miles I value at pretty much zero).
Jun 26, 2014, 7:35 am
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I agree that FB is not very good (hence the monopole reference). Perhaps they could revive VLM's Encore FFP?
Jun 26, 2014, 9:53 am
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I used to do this trip every couple of weeks, and I recall that the evening flight from DUB - LGW/LCY both left within a short time period (30 minutes or so?). I once was one of three passengers on board the flight from DUB - LCY 
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