What'up with BA in SFO?
Jun 17, 2014, 3:03 pm
#46
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Unfortunately that's too sensible for the system. The only routes they seem to do this are CWLCY and HKG to LHR in that direction, where they sometimes pro-actively contact passengers and offer alternatives. Otherwise the system prefers to muck people about on the day. In the case of LHR be wary of being too helpful, the chances are you will still fly on your original service, not get compensation but lose the nice seat you allocated to yourself. However in your position the airline may well take the view that it's not a full flight at the moment, which may well prove to be the case.
Jun 17, 2014, 3:38 pm
#47
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One reason, although not the only one for SFO flight to LHR being busy at the moment is that there are a load of tech, ad and creative companies over in Cannes for the Cannes Lions event, which is on this week and everywhere is heaving! Lots of US companies over here from the Bay Area showcasing a lot of creative work etc.
I know just getting a flight from LON to NCE this week cost me a fortune and you can forget about a hotel which doesn't cost an arm, leg, and other body parts this week.
I know just getting a flight from LON to NCE this week cost me a fortune and you can forget about a hotel which doesn't cost an arm, leg, and other body parts this week.
Jun 17, 2014, 5:04 pm
#48
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Slightly Sorry for OT: This made me wonder... I can see how an airport like NCE is easily affected by an event like this, but how about the other way around? What sort of event would it take to affect availability to, say, SFO from Europe, or LHR for that matter?
In the industry I work in, there are two international trade shows / conferences on the west coast, one in SFO with ~25k people attending and one in LAX with ~50k people attending. Neither of them seems to create a spike in the airfares from Europe, even though the share of Europeans in attendance is substantial. Hotel fares, however, always seem to be affected....
In the industry I work in, there are two international trade shows / conferences on the west coast, one in SFO with ~25k people attending and one in LAX with ~50k people attending. Neither of them seems to create a spike in the airfares from Europe, even though the share of Europeans in attendance is substantial. Hotel fares, however, always seem to be affected....
Jun 17, 2014, 5:38 pm
#49
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I think the more than expected traffic from SFO-LHR can be justified for the reason that California schools are off for the break and people are heading either home or Europe for holidays. Add to that a recent Apple event which could be the reason for fully occupied F and J classes. And on top of that - as many have told here SFO-LHR capacity is less as compared to say LAX-LHR because of the type of aircraft flown.
As far as the other way around goes, try to fare a trip from Europe-SFO during first week of January or during end of holidays when people are coming back. That may cost you an arm and a leg for minimum.
As far as the other way around goes, try to fare a trip from Europe-SFO during first week of January or during end of holidays when people are coming back. That may cost you an arm and a leg for minimum.
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Jun 17, 2014, 11:38 pm
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2012 I was attending the Apple WWDC event in june. The same week a big sailing event and a tennis tournament was held in the bay area. Apple being (as usual) very late with their announcement, I had to pay premium for both flight and hotel.
Jun 17, 2014, 11:46 pm
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I fly into Vegas four times per year for conferences and events. For CES, the Consumer Electronics Show, the flights direct to LAS get booked up as soon as the flights become available.
Most people therefore travel through an airport which is close, and has easy links, to LAS. SFO and LAX are two of the easiest, rivalled by PHX. BA only has one flight to PHX and it is usually full, meaning a routing through the West coast.
NCE copes quite well considering the number of annual events that take place within its vicinity (MC Grand Prix, Cannes Film Festival, numerous UEFA/FIFA events, etc).
Jun 18, 2014, 1:41 am
#52
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What'up with BA in SFO?
It's interesting as I can see sort of why BA likes the A380 and 777 combo as you can very easily alter capacity between the 777-200 and 777-300 depending on demand. I'm sure we will see more of this in the future.
FD.
FD.
Jun 18, 2014, 2:41 am
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AA has aircraft out of service at the moment as the 772 and 767 are being refurbished. AA is also getting more longhaul aircraft delivered. As AA's capacity returns/increases I would expect to see AA taking on more of the TATL flights from its hubs to LHR, which will enable BA to fly elsewhere. AA will likely take on one or two JFK-LHRs that are currently operated by BA and possibly also a flight or two from LAX, MIA, ORD or DFW to LHR.
Jun 18, 2014, 3:05 am
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Jun 18, 2014, 3:34 am
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No, AA will, I think, operate services currently operated by BA. That frees up BA aircraft to go to other USA destinations and elsewhere. It doesn't increase the total slots, but does enable BA to swap things around to enable more longhaul flying.
Also, AA has just bought a slot pair from Cyprus Airways.
Also, AA has just bought a slot pair from Cyprus Airways.
Jun 18, 2014, 3:42 am
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AA has aircraft out of service at the moment as the 772 and 767 are being refurbished. AA is also getting more longhaul aircraft delivered. As AA's capacity returns/increases I would expect to see AA taking on more of the TATL flights from its hubs to LHR, which will enable BA to fly elsewhere. AA will likely take on one or two JFK-LHRs that are currently operated by BA and possibly also a flight or two from LAX, MIA, ORD or DFW to LHR.
An EWR flight would be great for me too but highly unlikely, or do US fly there?
Jun 18, 2014, 4:03 am
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No, AA will, I think, operate services currently operated by BA. That frees up BA aircraft to go to other USA destinations and elsewhere. It doesn't increase the total slots, but does enable BA to swap things around to enable more longhaul flying.
Also, AA has just bought a slot pair from Cyprus Airways.
Also, AA has just bought a slot pair from Cyprus Airways.
Bet AA leases them to BA to run something..... (or is that not allowed - I don't know enough about slots)
FD.