Just bagged my first ever ex-EU fare - all thanks to FT
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Based on a stay last August, earlier check-in is possible:
1) if the room us unoccupied in the previous 'block' of four hours during which it could otherwise have been booked as a dayroom
and
2) if you are prepared to pay the cost of the four hour block (which I was)
Can't now remember the price, but I do remember it made the whole thing feel pretty costly.
A big plus was avoiding the huge Security queues - travelling through for a 7h Zurich departure with LX earlier this month was quite an experience...
JW
1) if the room us unoccupied in the previous 'block' of four hours during which it could otherwise have been booked as a dayroom
and
2) if you are prepared to pay the cost of the four hour block (which I was)
Can't now remember the price, but I do remember it made the whole thing feel pretty costly.
A big plus was avoiding the huge Security queues - travelling through for a 7h Zurich departure with LX earlier this month was quite an experience...
JW
Many thanks.
#17
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I just did it, after lots of learning to use ITA Matrix and keeping a regular eye on things I just bagged my first ever EX-EU fare in CW for September. It is all thanks to this board on FT - so a huge thank you for opening my eyes! My wife thinks it is quite strange, but when I show her the difference in price she soon warms to the slightly odd sensation of taking an alternative route!
So we have booked for September:
AMS - LGW - TPA - LGW - LHR - AMS (conveniently the airport change at the end might mean I get lost and end up at home...)
Booked this with combined hire car for 8 days and it worked out at £1,610 per person. Comparable booking direct from LGW was £2,550 - so a nice saving. We take a positioning flight the night before to AMS from LGW in ET which cost £59 each.
My only failing was that this part was not booked using an avios redemption in CE, but I did just spend all the household avios on an F redemption to BOM, so not all bad.
So, my only questions are thus:
1) Does anybody know any decently positioned hotels at AMS?
2) How easy is it to transfer at LGW? Our flight from AMS has a connection time of 1 hour 20 mins which BA was fine with - I'm sure this won't be an issue, but any experience shared would be welcomed
Thanks again FT - not only an informative and entertaining board, but also a real money saver!
Cheers,
Alex ^
So we have booked for September:
AMS - LGW - TPA - LGW - LHR - AMS (conveniently the airport change at the end might mean I get lost and end up at home...)
Booked this with combined hire car for 8 days and it worked out at £1,610 per person. Comparable booking direct from LGW was £2,550 - so a nice saving. We take a positioning flight the night before to AMS from LGW in ET which cost £59 each.
My only failing was that this part was not booked using an avios redemption in CE, but I did just spend all the household avios on an F redemption to BOM, so not all bad.
So, my only questions are thus:
1) Does anybody know any decently positioned hotels at AMS?
2) How easy is it to transfer at LGW? Our flight from AMS has a connection time of 1 hour 20 mins which BA was fine with - I'm sure this won't be an issue, but any experience shared would be welcomed
Thanks again FT - not only an informative and entertaining board, but also a real money saver!
Cheers,
Alex ^
I was just wondering if you had ever tried pricing the same trip up on a non-ex-EU basis during a luxury sale, just for comparison? Of course that is no use when there is no sale on from the UK (like now!) but I suppose there would be a sale either gone or coming which might have covered your dates in September.
The reason I ask is that I paid c.£6k for 4 CW return tickets EDI-LGW-MCO including 2 weeks car hire with BA holidays. During sales MCO and TPA often have the lowest fares to the USA.
I certainly don't think you could have saved any more money than you have, and a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush! Also if it is school holiday season then maybe BA sale fares wouldn't be available for those dates.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Globaliser
You know that flying the fourth sector would probably get you the cheapest 40 TPs you'll ever earn?
...and if you buy a return CE fare from LGW to AMS for probably around £150 each, added to your planned points for this trip and the trip to MLA, you will hit silver.
Originally Posted by Globaliser
You know that flying the fourth sector would probably get you the cheapest 40 TPs you'll ever earn?
...and if you buy a return CE fare from LGW to AMS for probably around £150 each, added to your planned points for this trip and the trip to MLA, you will hit silver.
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Good job Milnio87, that looks like a good saving.
I was just wondering if you had ever tried pricing the same trip up on a non-ex-EU basis during a luxury sale, just for comparison? Of course that is no use when there is no sale on from the UK (like now!) but I suppose there would be a sale either gone or coming which might have covered your dates in September.
The reason I ask is that I paid c.£6k for 4 CW return tickets EDI-LGW-MCO including 2 weeks car hire with BA holidays. During sales MCO and TPA often have the lowest fares to the USA.
I certainly don't think you could have saved any more money than you have, and a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush! Also if it is school holiday season then maybe BA sale fares wouldn't be available for those dates.
Good job Milnio87, that looks like a good saving.
I was just wondering if you had ever tried pricing the same trip up on a non-ex-EU basis during a luxury sale, just for comparison? Of course that is no use when there is no sale on from the UK (like now!) but I suppose there would be a sale either gone or coming which might have covered your dates in September.
The reason I ask is that I paid c.£6k for 4 CW return tickets EDI-LGW-MCO including 2 weeks car hire with BA holidays. During sales MCO and TPA often have the lowest fares to the USA.
I certainly don't think you could have saved any more money than you have, and a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush! Also if it is school holiday season then maybe BA sale fares wouldn't be available for those dates.
My magic number was £1,600 on this though and I'd gotten close to this price using US Airways a few times but I was wary of their J product so didn't bite.
Glad I didn't now as flights much more convenient - subject to making an easy connection at LGW!
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I didn't get chance during luxury seat sale as our holiday plans were up in the air whilst my wife changed jobs. I will look for comparison though when the time comes. Like you say I expect they will have been similar money, but you save the faffing around with a positioning flight!!!
My magic number was £1,600 on this though and I'd gotten close to this price using US Airways a few times but I was wary of their J product so didn't bite.
Glad I didn't now as flights much more convenient - subject to making an easy connection at LGW!
My magic number was £1,600 on this though and I'd gotten close to this price using US Airways a few times but I was wary of their J product so didn't bite.
Glad I didn't now as flights much more convenient - subject to making an easy connection at LGW!
#21
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The LGW Leisure routes are normally great value in the Sales anyway and the LGW routes are normally available within Sales which cover most of the years (I got LGW to MCO for £1400 last year in August) so whilst you haven't saved much its still fun flying on all those planes - have a great trip
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It's all very well saying the OP hasn't saved much .... but if you can't book during a sale for whatever reason (e.g. as the OP has explained), then the comparison isn't really appropriate.
I think the OP has done well to get what they want at the price they want. Seems to me that having to book outside of a sale has meant they've saved quite a bit.
I think the OP has done well to get what they want at the price they want. Seems to me that having to book outside of a sale has meant they've saved quite a bit.
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It's all very well saying the OP hasn't saved much .... but if you can't book during a sale for whatever reason (e.g. as the OP has explained), then the comparison isn't really appropriate.
I think the OP has done well to get what they want at the price they want. Seems to me that having to book outside of a sale has meant they've saved quite a bit.
I think the OP has done well to get what they want at the price they want. Seems to me that having to book outside of a sale has meant they've saved quite a bit.
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I agree that if you have to pay a lot for the positioning flight to get back after the fourth sector, then it may not be worth it.
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My Avios account looks like my old student bank balance at the moment (actually that's a lie - my account is in credit!) - but still, this is definitely an earning not burning trip!
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Highly likely ( unless you have an overnight stay).
If you had booked SFO-LHR LCY/LGW -AMS then your bags would have to be collected at LHR and taken to LCY/LGW.
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TBS
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#30
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Just bagged my first ever ex-EU fare - all thanks to FT
Just as an add on point (getting questioned by the wife) - is 80 minutes enough time to connect at LGW coming in from AMS to outbound TPA flight?