The Executive Club: How far we've come...
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The Executive Club: How far we've come...
I was just reading the posts about concorde and reflecting on how far the Exec Club has actually come from years past. I remember when I first enrolled - any award tickets issued were severely restricted, and honestly much harder to get than they are today. Also once issued, there were no changes allowed on any mileage tickets - it was a case of use it or loose it.
MFU did not exist if I recall correctly. There were no GFU2s, and GGL was nowhere on the horizon.
You couldn't call any desk other than in your home country, and they were impossible to get a hold of. You'd have to visit a ticket office to pay for your redemption ticket etc etc... Redemption and earning rules were vastly different for different regions.
On many fronts, the BA exec club has made some serious strides from being one of the poorer FFP's out there to one of the best in class and a big driver as to why people actually fly BA.
I just thought I'd start this thread to have some of us walk back into the not so long ago past and reflect on how much this wonderful program has changed and adapted to become what it is today
MFU did not exist if I recall correctly. There were no GFU2s, and GGL was nowhere on the horizon.
You couldn't call any desk other than in your home country, and they were impossible to get a hold of. You'd have to visit a ticket office to pay for your redemption ticket etc etc... Redemption and earning rules were vastly different for different regions.
On many fronts, the BA exec club has made some serious strides from being one of the poorer FFP's out there to one of the best in class and a big driver as to why people actually fly BA.
I just thought I'd start this thread to have some of us walk back into the not so long ago past and reflect on how much this wonderful program has changed and adapted to become what it is today
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I remember when you needed to have booked either a ticket in the premium classes or a full fare Y just to join BAEC. It really put me off the scheme in the early years of my flying. Now it's one of the few airlines that give 100% miles on discounted tickets.
As I fly a lot of short haul I appreciate the benefits and so to maintain these benefits I'll choose BA (and oneworld) for my long haul trips in CW/F. If I didn't get these benefits I'd definitely be flying a variety of airlines for my longhaul travel.
I think BAEC has came a long way since those days.
As I fly a lot of short haul I appreciate the benefits and so to maintain these benefits I'll choose BA (and oneworld) for my long haul trips in CW/F. If I didn't get these benefits I'd definitely be flying a variety of airlines for my longhaul travel.
I think BAEC has came a long way since those days.
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bmi had diamond club, it didn't mean you needed to have any diamonds to join!
Even though more people can join there's more things that have improved for truly frequent flyers than have deteriorated. Removal of open doors for gold is probably the most notable enhancement, followed by the slower priority boarding since bronze was added. Dehancements include GGL tier, more benefits for higher tier balances, CCR card and reasonable redemption options on short haul.
These days it can't be assumed an executive will always be travelling business class and the programme has adapted to that reality. The scheme is still more rewarding to those travelling in premium cabins, which I agree with. You have to do a significant amount of flying to get status unless you go for TP runs and that's surely a small portion of the members.
Even though more people can join there's more things that have improved for truly frequent flyers than have deteriorated. Removal of open doors for gold is probably the most notable enhancement, followed by the slower priority boarding since bronze was added. Dehancements include GGL tier, more benefits for higher tier balances, CCR card and reasonable redemption options on short haul.
These days it can't be assumed an executive will always be travelling business class and the programme has adapted to that reality. The scheme is still more rewarding to those travelling in premium cabins, which I agree with. You have to do a significant amount of flying to get status unless you go for TP runs and that's surely a small portion of the members.
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Having been a member of the BAEC for well over a decade I really like the new '21st Century' set up compared to what it was like years ago.
As an example and from what I read here the benefits of GGL's are far better now than not that so long ago.
BAEC is for everyone, frequent flyer or not in my view and in BA's too.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb.../blue-benefits
In general terms some folks on the BA Board seem to have a little difficulty accepting that.
Pete
As an example and from what I read here the benefits of GGL's are far better now than not that so long ago.
BAEC is for everyone, frequent flyer or not in my view and in BA's too.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb.../blue-benefits
In general terms some folks on the BA Board seem to have a little difficulty accepting that.
Pete
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Exactly. When I first joined there were 125 miles per domestic sector and 0TPs. Made long-haul rewards impossible and Euro rewards were pretty useless due to the taxes. Now with a combination of 100% miles and RFS BAEC is an excellent programme for the semi-frequent short haul flyer like me.
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Exactly. When I first joined there were 125 miles per domestic sector and 0TPs. Made long-haul rewards impossible and Euro rewards were pretty useless due to the taxes. Now with a combination of 100% miles and RFS BAEC is an excellent programme for the semi-frequent short haul flyer like me.
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Open doors should come back for ggls on a flight that has no one world service.
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The BAEC is really two reward programmes in one. There is the status side of the club and the Avios collecting side of it. The latter being more of an attraction to the majority of BA customers than the former.