OT: UK kids missing school for holiday
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OT: UK kids missing school for holiday
This isn't to do with BA exactly. I'm hoping UK flyertalkers could offer advice.
I'm trying to use my Avios to get my 12-year-old niece and both in-laws, all UK based, over to the US. I've tried to time it with her school break, but the availability I can find would have her missing 2 days of school. I was surprised when her parents said the UK has strict rules about kids missing school and they would be fined. Is this really the case? Is there any way to get permission to miss just 2 days? I'm sure she could make up some work on her flights. Does any forum flyertalker have experience taking their kid out of school for a few days? Is it a big deal to just pay the fine?--I would offer to pay it if her parents are OK incurring it.
I'm trying to use my Avios to get my 12-year-old niece and both in-laws, all UK based, over to the US. I've tried to time it with her school break, but the availability I can find would have her missing 2 days of school. I was surprised when her parents said the UK has strict rules about kids missing school and they would be fined. Is this really the case? Is there any way to get permission to miss just 2 days? I'm sure she could make up some work on her flights. Does any forum flyertalker have experience taking their kid out of school for a few days? Is it a big deal to just pay the fine?--I would offer to pay it if her parents are OK incurring it.
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Parents can take kids out of school in term time, however this is at the discretion of the school.
If they refuse permission, taking them out is a criminal offence with a maximum sentence of 3 months in the big house. So probably not a great idea.
If they refuse permission, taking them out is a criminal offence with a maximum sentence of 3 months in the big house. So probably not a great idea.
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I have a feeling the headmaster can grant permission in individual circumstances.
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It depends upon the local Education Authority.
I have taken my kids out of school for a few days, and have notified the school and had it logged as an "authorised absence", but I am in Scotland and you don't mention where the children are that you are discussing.
Another (entirely unethical) option is for the kids to contract a viral illness (or similar), precluding them from attending school for a few days.
I'm not specifically advocating this, but plenty of people do it !
I have taken my kids out of school for a few days, and have notified the school and had it logged as an "authorised absence", but I am in Scotland and you don't mention where the children are that you are discussing.
Another (entirely unethical) option is for the kids to contract a viral illness (or similar), precluding them from attending school for a few days.
I'm not specifically advocating this, but plenty of people do it !
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It depends upon the local Education Authority.
I have taken my kids out of school for a few days, and have notified the school and had it logged as an "authorised absence", but I am in Scotland and you don't mention where the children are that you are discussing.
Another (entirely unethical) option is for the kids to contract a viral illness (or similar), precluding them from attending school for a few days.
I'm not specifically advocating this, but plenty of people do it !
I have taken my kids out of school for a few days, and have notified the school and had it logged as an "authorised absence", but I am in Scotland and you don't mention where the children are that you are discussing.
Another (entirely unethical) option is for the kids to contract a viral illness (or similar), precluding them from attending school for a few days.
I'm not specifically advocating this, but plenty of people do it !
Mind you if you believe Mr Goves, you are doing your kids a favour by removing them from state schools.
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My niece is in Lancaster, England. I don't really know how they interpret the "exceptional circumstances" requirement. She is an excellent student that rarely misses school, so she has that going in her favor.
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The law was changed last year, until then the Head could use discretion as noted by some below, now they can not except in exceptional circumstances. The rules specifically state that holidays are not exceptional circumstances, such being preserved for bereavement etc.
The schools near us will now absolutely not permit any holidays in term time. This is due, we are informed, to the possibility the local authority could discipline the head if they broke the rules to the point they won't budge an inch now.
The schools near us will now absolutely not permit any holidays in term time. This is due, we are informed, to the possibility the local authority could discipline the head if they broke the rules to the point they won't budge an inch now.
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The law was changed last year, until then the Head could use discretion, now they can not except in exceptional circumstances. The rules specifically state that holidays are not exceptional circumstances.
The schools near us will now absolutely not permit any holidays in term time. This is due, we are informed, to the possibility the local authority could discipline the head if they broke the rules to the point they won't budge an inch now.
The schools near us will now absolutely not permit any holidays in term time. This is due, we are informed, to the possibility the local authority could discipline the head if they broke the rules to the point they won't budge an inch now.
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or they could just pay for the "school holiday tax" ie. just pay the fee/fine.
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Well, if revan is right, returning to the States in the future could be problematic for your in-laws with a criminal record...
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True. Is it 60 pounds per day per parent? Some sources I see say the fine is 60 pounds, I figured it must be per day. Then in the article linked above it says the fine is per parent also.
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I don't think my in-laws would get the criminal record, as she lives with her parents. I don't have enough Avios for 5 to come over. Still, I would not want to do anything resulting in her parents having a criminal record.