Last edit by: NWIFlyer
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check seat availability and flight loads
#5388
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Herts, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL, HH Diamond.
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Please can someone check the following for me, wondering weather to book now or wait?
BA59 LHR - CPT 28/03/18
BA59 LHR - CPT 28/03/18
#5389
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#5391
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,248
That's an interesting set of numbers. Would it be reasonable to conclude that Y and W are probably full or close to full and that any additional sales in full fare Y or W will probably result in upgrades going forward? If full fare J tickets are sold then this will probably reduce the numbers available for Y and W? Looks like an almost ideal scenario for the airline with any additional sales likely to generate high yield.
#5392
Join Date: Jun 2017
Programs: Oman
Posts: 9
Welcome to FlyerTalk and peace be upon you, ABDULLAH OM and also be welcome to the British Airways forum.
Normally we only look at oneworld flights here but since you are new ... ... I will bend the rules for you.
Normally we only look at oneworld flights here but since you are new ... ... I will bend the rules for you.
Code:
MCTDXB EK 867 05SEP F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H0 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7 DXBSEA EK 229 05SEP F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T0 V0 X0 DXBSFO EK 225 05SEP F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H0 Q7 L7 T7 V7 X7
But can we know the exact available seats?
Regards,
Abdullah
#5394
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 51
BA 59 0 LHR
28/03/18 9:30 PM CPT
29/03/18 10:00 AM 744
Daily
76% / 19m F2 A0 J9 C9 D9 R3 I0 W9 E8 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
#5395
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,086
Sorry to bother Can someone kindly check on:
BA207 LHR-MIA 07 Jul
BA208 MIA-LHR 09 Jul
Thank you!
BA207 LHR-MIA 07 Jul
BA208 MIA-LHR 09 Jul
Thank you!
#5396
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Ba 207 - f2 a1 j9 c3 d2 r1 i1 w7 e3 t0 y2 b2 h2 k2 m0 l0 v0 s0 n0 q0 o0 g0
ba 208 - f3 a2 j9 c3 d1 r0 i0 w9 e7 t5 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o0 g9
ba 208 - f3 a2 j9 c3 d1 r0 i0 w9 e7 t5 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o0 g9
#5399
formerly mattking2000
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: DXB
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Posts: 1,187
Yes, I think there's a reasonable chance. I suspect that WT and WTP may be full but the airline is prepared to sell full fare tickets in both with a view to upgrading people from WT to WTP if necessary. This will have the knock on effect of a requirement to upgrade from WTP to CW and possibly further forward too. It will all depend on whether or not the cabins down the back are *actually* oversold or not on the day.
It would be interesting if you reported back what actually happens if you find out.
It would be interesting if you reported back what actually happens if you find out.
#5400
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: TPA/ABZ
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,248
Interesting, thanks for the feedback and I hope the delay wasn't too bad in the end.