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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Jun 16, 2017, 12:15 pm
          #5326  
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        Originally Posted by jms_uk
        How's this looking for BA Gold?
        I'm not quite sure what you're asking? Y is not oversold so unless it sells out I doubt there will be any upgrades. Or are you asking something else?
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        Old Jun 16, 2017, 12:26 pm
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        Originally Posted by golfmad
        I'm not quite sure what you're asking? Y is not oversold so unless it sells out I doubt there will be any upgrades. Or are you asking something else?

        No, that was it
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        Old Jun 18, 2017, 2:11 am
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        BA502 LHR-LIS 24 June, please.
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        Old Jun 18, 2017, 2:14 am
          #5329  
         
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        Originally Posted by noppasit
        ba502 lhr-lis 24 june, please.

        ba 502 lhr 24/06/17 15:15 lis 24/06/17 18:05 320

        J9 C3 D0 R0 I0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S8 G0
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        Old Jun 18, 2017, 2:14 am
          #5330  
         
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        Originally Posted by Noppasit
        BA502 LHR-LIS 24 June, please.
        UK position

        BA 502
        LHR 24/06/17 15:15
        LIS 24/06/17 18:05
        320
        J9 C3 D0 R0 I0 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
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        Old Jun 19, 2017, 5:02 am
          #5331  
         
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        Hello please could someone let me know the flight loads for :

        21/06 BA108 DXB-LHR
        21/06 BA113 LHR-JFK
        25/06 BA182 JFK-LHR
        26/06 BA107 LHR-DXB

        Thanx a lot in advance
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        Old Jun 19, 2017, 5:10 am
          #5332  
         
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        Originally Posted by diamantaire
        Hello please could someone let me know the flight loads for :

        21/06 BA108 DXB-LHR
        21/06 BA113 LHR-JFK
        25/06 BA182 JFK-LHR
        26/06 BA107 LHR-DXB

        Thanx a lot in advance
        Here you go, with UAE POS.

        21 June
        BA108: F1 A1 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA113: F3 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        25-26 June
        BA 182: F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I6 W4 E2 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K6 M4 L2 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA 107F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I6 W9 E2 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L6 V4 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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        Old Jun 19, 2017, 5:25 am
          #5333  
         
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        Originally Posted by gustavmahler
        Here you go, with UAE POS.

        21 June
        BA108: F1 A1 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA113: F3 A2 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        25-26 June
        BA 182: F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I6 W4 E2 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K6 M4 L2 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA 107F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I6 W9 E2 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L6 V4 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0



        Thanx a lot
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        Old Jun 19, 2017, 5:32 am
          #5334  
         
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        Thanks Gingeola, was able to AUP at the desk for 155 Euro on the day,
        9th Jun Hel - LHR

        Last edited by Down the back; Jun 19, 2017 at 5:33 am Reason: DATES AND ROUTE ADDED
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        Old Jun 19, 2017, 5:43 am
          #5335  
         
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        Please can someone check lgw-funchal(FNC) on sunday 25 June - BA2780

        Thanks
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        Old Jun 19, 2017, 5:51 am
          #5336  
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        Originally Posted by Castle25
        Please can someone check lgw-funchal(FNC) on sunday 25 June - BA2780

        Thanks
        Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LGW on 06/25/17 12:00 AM for FNC
        Flying BA  
        Direct/Non-Stop Only
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 2780       0      LGW                FNC                320       Su,M,W,Th,F,Sa  J3 C2 D1 R0 I0 Y1 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0 
                             06/25/17 7:25 AM   06/25/17 11:25 AM            83% / 12m
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        Old Jun 19, 2017, 12:27 pm
          #5337  
         
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        Hi, I'd be grateful if someone could check LHR - BKK on 5th July 2017 (BA9)
        and BKK - LHR on 15th July 2017 (BA10)

        Thanks
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        Old Jun 19, 2017, 1:54 pm
          #5338  
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        Originally Posted by ttgrass
        Hi, I'd be grateful if someone could check LHR - BKK on 5th July 2017 (BA9)
        and BKK - LHR on 15th July 2017 (BA10)

        Thanks
        Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LHR on 07/05/17 12:00 AM for BKK
        Flying BA  
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 9          0      LHR                BKK                777       Daily           J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W8 E5 T4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M3 L3 V1 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                             07/05/17 4:00 PM   07/06/17 9:40 AM             71% / 22m
        Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing BKK on 07/15/17 12:00 AM for LHR
        Flying BA  
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 10         0      BKK                LHR                777       Daily           J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W7 E4 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K6 M2 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 
                             07/15/17 11:40 AM  07/15/17 6:20 PM             75% / 22m
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        Old Jun 20, 2017, 10:34 am
          #5339  
         
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        Originally Posted by bazza1603
        Completely full

        BABA/BAW 125 BRITISH AIRWAYS1487 JL YL BL HL KL ML GL /GLA M LHR 5 1405 1535
        Flight ended up being oversold and they asked for volunteers to move to a later flight. Very happy to accept Ł220 to spend a couple of hours in the lounge 😊
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        Old Jun 21, 2017, 9:21 am
          #5340  
         
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        Hi everyone, travelling F on BA196 IAH - LHR on 22/08

        I'm on a rewards booking with a 2-4-1 and I think that first is now full. After all that long discussion the other week about targeting avios bookings for downgrade, I'm not panicking (don't really do that) but I have got a little bit of a sinking feeling.

        I would appreciate it if someone could look at the loading and see what's going on.

        There does seem to be availability on the earlier flight - I don't suppose there's any way to offer to be bumped to the earlier flight is there?

        Many thanks.
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