Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check seat availability and flight loads
Aug 13, 2015, 7:41 am
#1458
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 573
Expertflyer says that there are 9 seats in M from the UK availability. Lastminute/Expedia and other OTAs are able to find this M also. Called BA in the UK and Denmark and both say that there is no M class on this flight at all. Any idea what is going on?
KA 825 0 CTU
08/26/15 8:15 AM HKG
08/26/15 11:00 AM 321
J2 C1 D1 IL Y9 BL HL KL M9 LL VL SL NL QC OL
KA 825 0 CTU
08/26/15 8:15 AM HKG
08/26/15 11:00 AM 321
J2 C1 D1 IL Y9 BL HL KL M9 LL VL SL NL QC OL
Aug 13, 2015, 8:09 am
#1459
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: TPA/ABZ
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,248
Expertflyer says that there are 9 seats in M from the UK availability. Lastminute/Expedia and other OTAs are able to find this M also. Called BA in the UK and Denmark and both say that there is no M class on this flight at all. Any idea what is going on?
KA 825 0 CTU
08/26/15 8:15 AM HKG
08/26/15 11:00 AM 321
J2 C1 D1 IL Y9 BL HL KL M9 LL VL SL NL QC OL
KA 825 0 CTU
08/26/15 8:15 AM HKG
08/26/15 11:00 AM 321
J2 C1 D1 IL Y9 BL HL KL M9 LL VL SL NL QC OL
Aug 13, 2015, 8:56 am
#1460
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I1 W8 E5 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q5 O9 G1
114:
F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I5 W9 E9 T8 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
At a guess - there's a better chance of something showing up on the 114.
But that's purely on the CW numbers there and the fact that WTP is beginning to close up on the 176.
But it's a pure guess.
Aug 13, 2015, 2:08 pm
#1461
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: East Berlin
Posts: 1,533
I can see BA2642 operating LGW-SKG on 31 August but nothing for BA2643 - the return.
I tried booking a seat on the SKG-LGW flight months ago but ba.com said 'no flights available' (and not sold out, as you sometimes see during holiday periods).
What gives?
Palmer
I tried booking a seat on the SKG-LGW flight months ago but ba.com said 'no flights available' (and not sold out, as you sometimes see during holiday periods).
What gives?
Palmer
Aug 13, 2015, 2:16 pm
#1462
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sheffield, UK
Programs: BA - Silver,Hilton-Diamond, IHG - PlatAmb, GHA - Plat
Posts: 766
J0 C0 DC RC IC Y0 B0 HC KC M0 LC VC NC QC OC SC G0
Aug 13, 2015, 2:49 pm
#1464
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,464
I would really appreciate if someone can provide the loading for BA9 LHR-BKK next Thursday 20/08.
Thank you very much ^
Thank you very much ^
Aug 13, 2015, 2:50 pm
#1465
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sheffield, UK
Programs: BA - Silver,Hilton-Diamond, IHG - PlatAmb, GHA - Plat
Posts: 766
Aug 13, 2015, 2:52 pm
#1466
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sheffield, UK
Programs: BA - Silver,Hilton-Diamond, IHG - PlatAmb, GHA - Plat
Posts: 766
Aug 13, 2015, 2:58 pm
#1468
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,464
Does not look too heavily loaded - hopefully a peaceful flight and the start of a well needed holiday!
Aug 14, 2015, 2:42 am
#1469
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 279
176:
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I1 W8 E5 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q5 O9 G1
114:
F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I5 W9 E9 T8 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
At a guess - there's a better chance of something showing up on the 114.
But that's purely on the CW numbers there and the fact that WTP is beginning to close up on the 176.
But it's a pure guess.
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I1 W8 E5 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q5 O9 G1
114:
F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I5 W9 E9 T8 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
At a guess - there's a better chance of something showing up on the 114.
But that's purely on the CW numbers there and the fact that WTP is beginning to close up on the 176.
But it's a pure guess.
Aug 14, 2015, 6:31 pm
#1470
Suspended
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, UA Silver, CC Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,000
Hi could someone check MCO => Gatters (BA2038) tomorrow, August 15th please?
In laws are unable to check in at T-24 and are a bit concerned.
In laws are unable to check in at T-24 and are a bit concerned.