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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 6:25 am
          #1426  
         
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        Originally Posted by mikeyfly
        Ooops apologies not normally bothered by this - it's LHR->LAX

        Thought F looked quiet still!

        I have before seen someone look at a seat plan or something and see if seats are blocked for GOLDS or actually reserved by other passengers. Would you be able to check this? Thanks in advance ^
        1A, 1K, 2E & 2F occupied. All other seats unreserved
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 6:31 am
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        Thanks again BA038_Passenger I'm 2E & 2F !
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 10:03 am
          #1428  
        Ziz
         
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        Would anyone mind checking BA96 YYZ-LHR on August 21 for me? Thanks!
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 10:07 am
          #1429  
         
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        Originally Posted by Ziz
        Would anyone mind checking BA96 YYZ-LHR on August 21 for me? Thanks!
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing YYZ on 21/08/15 0:00 for LHR
        Flying BA  
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        
        0 Connections
        BA 96         0      YYZ                LHR                777       Unavailable     F5 A5 J9 C7 D5 R3 IC W6 E7 T2 Y6 B3 H2 K1 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0 
                             21/08/15 23:00     22/08/15 10:50               78% / 13m
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 10:16 am
          #1430  
        Ziz
         
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        Thanks! Emptier than it seemed from the seat map!
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 10:38 am
          #1431  
         
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        Originally Posted by Ziz
        Thanks! Emptier than it seemed from the seat map!
        Seat map:

        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Seat Map Search:
        Departing YYZ on 21/08/15 for LHR
        Flying BA flight 96 in First, Business/Club, Premium Economy, Economy
        
                A       E   F       K   
        1       P       -   -       P       
        2       -       -   -       -       
        3       -                   +       
        4       +       -   -       +       
                A       E   F       K
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Seat Map Search:
        Departing YYZ on 21/08/15 for LHR
        Flying BA flight 96 in First, Business/Club, Premium Economy, Economy
        
                A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K   
        10      -   -       +   +   +   +       -   +       
        11      +   -       +   -   -   +       -   -       
        12  W   -   -       +   -   -   -       -   -   W   
        13  W   -   +       -   +   +   +       -   -   W   
        14  W   -   -       +   +   +   +       -   -   W   
        15  W   -   -       -   -   -   -       -   -   W   
                A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Seat Map Search:
        Departing YYZ on 21/08/15 for LHR
        Flying BA flight 96 in First, Business/Club, Premium Economy, Economy
        
                A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K   
        21  W   X   -       -   -   -   +       -   X   W   
        22  W   -   -       H   +   +   H       -   -   W   
        23  W   -   -       H   +   +   H       H   +   W   
        24  W   +   H       H   +   +   H       H   +   W   
        25  W   +   H       H   +   +   H       H   +   W   
                A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Seat Map Search:
        Departing YYZ on 21/08/15 for LHR
        Flying BA flight 96 in First, Business/Club, Premium Economy, Economy
        
                A   B   C       D   E   F       H   J   K   
        26  E   +   +   +       X   -   X       +   +   +   E   
        27      -   -   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        28      -   +   -       H   +   -       -   -   -       
        29      -   +   H       H   +   H       -   -   -       
        30      +   +   H       H   +   H       -   +   +       
        31      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        32      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        33      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        34      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        35      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        36      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        37      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        38      -   -   H       H   +   H       X   X   X       
        39      -   -           H   +   H           X   X       
                A   B   C       D   E   F       H   J   K   
        
        
        
        
        Seats
        Premium Only             P                        
        Available                +                        
        Handicap-Accessible      H                        
        Paid & Premium           #                        
        Occupied                 -                        
        Blocked                  X                        
        Lavatory                 L                        
        Paid                     $                        
        
        Location
        Exit Row                 E                        
        Wing                     W                        
        Upper Deck               U
        At a guess, from the seatmap and the availability, the back is a bit oversold and they are planning on moves forward into WTP.

        I'd guess it's not heavily oversold though.

        The earlier 92 and 98 look like they are pretty empty though.
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        Old Aug 4, 2015, 5:49 am
          #1432  
         
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        Anyone helpful enough to check WF592 tomorrow 05/08/2015? Thanks!
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        Old Aug 4, 2015, 5:58 am
          #1433  
        Ziz
         
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        Originally Posted by MPH1980
        Seat map:

        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Seat Map Search:
        Departing YYZ on 21/08/15 for LHR
        Flying BA flight 96 in First, Business/Club, Premium Economy, Economy
        
                A       E   F       K   
        1       P       -   -       P       
        2       -       -   -       -       
        3       -                   +       
        4       +       -   -       +       
                A       E   F       K
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Seat Map Search:
        Departing YYZ on 21/08/15 for LHR
        Flying BA flight 96 in First, Business/Club, Premium Economy, Economy
        
                A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K   
        10      -   -       +   +   +   +       -   +       
        11      +   -       +   -   -   +       -   -       
        12  W   -   -       +   -   -   -       -   -   W   
        13  W   -   +       -   +   +   +       -   -   W   
        14  W   -   -       +   +   +   +       -   -   W   
        15  W   -   -       -   -   -   -       -   -   W   
                A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Seat Map Search:
        Departing YYZ on 21/08/15 for LHR
        Flying BA flight 96 in First, Business/Club, Premium Economy, Economy
        
                A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K   
        21  W   X   -       -   -   -   +       -   X   W   
        22  W   -   -       H   +   +   H       -   -   W   
        23  W   -   -       H   +   +   H       H   +   W   
        24  W   +   H       H   +   +   H       H   +   W   
        25  W   +   H       H   +   +   H       H   +   W   
                A   B       D   E   F   G       J   K
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Seat Map Search:
        Departing YYZ on 21/08/15 for LHR
        Flying BA flight 96 in First, Business/Club, Premium Economy, Economy
        
                A   B   C       D   E   F       H   J   K   
        26  E   +   +   +       X   -   X       +   +   +   E   
        27      -   -   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        28      -   +   -       H   +   -       -   -   -       
        29      -   +   H       H   +   H       -   -   -       
        30      +   +   H       H   +   H       -   +   +       
        31      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        32      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        33      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        34      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        35      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        36      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        37      +   +   H       H   +   H       H   +   +       
        38      -   -   H       H   +   H       X   X   X       
        39      -   -           H   +   H           X   X       
                A   B   C       D   E   F       H   J   K   
        
        
        
        
        Seats
        Premium Only             P                        
        Available                +                        
        Handicap-Accessible      H                        
        Paid & Premium           #                        
        Occupied                 -                        
        Blocked                  X                        
        Lavatory                 L                        
        Paid                     $                        
        
        Location
        Exit Row                 E                        
        Wing                     W                        
        Upper Deck               U
        At a guess, from the seatmap and the availability, the back is a bit oversold and they are planning on moves forward into WTP.

        I'd guess it's not heavily oversold though.

        The earlier 92 and 98 look like they are pretty empty though.
        Thanks. I'm travelling in CW and saw that most of the seats were already selected. Must just be a lot of status passengers.
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        Old Aug 4, 2015, 10:46 am
          #1434  
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        I appreciate not BA, but could someone please check the loads in J and F for me on:

        QR002 tonight LHR-DOH?

        There aren't many on the QR forum who have access to EF.

        Thanks in advance.
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        Old Aug 4, 2015, 11:06 am
          #1435  
         
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        Originally Posted by msm2000uk
        I appreciate not BA, but could someone please check the loads in J and F for me on:

        QR002 tonight LHR-DOH?

        There aren't many on the QR forum who have access to EF.

        Thanks in advance.
        Happy to help out a regular FT-er :-)

        F3 PL AL J2 C2 D2 I2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 NC QC TC OC
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        Old Aug 4, 2015, 11:10 am
          #1436  
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        Originally Posted by MPH1980
        Happy to help out a regular FT-er :-)

        F3 PL AL J2 C2 D2 I2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 NC QC TC OC
        Much appreciated MPH.

        Looks busyish.
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        Old Aug 7, 2015, 1:26 am
          #1437  
         
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        Sorry if not in correct forum! But could someone check the flight load for
        VS75 31 August 11.o0 am MAN - MCO
        and VS76 14 September 18.50 MCO Man

        Thanks

        Jimmymc
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        Old Aug 7, 2015, 1:57 am
          #1438  
         
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        Originally Posted by jimmymcs
        Sorry if not in correct forum! But could someone check the flight load for
        VS75 31 August 11.o0 am MAN - MCO
        and VS76 14 September 18.50 MCO Man

        Thanks

        Jimmymc
        Here you go.

        Outbound: J3 C3 D3 I3 Z0 W9 S9 K9 Y9 B9 R9 L9 U9 M9 E0 Q0 X0 N0 O0
        Return: J0 C0 D0 I0 Z0 W9 S9 K9 Y7 B7 R7 L7 U6 M6 E6 Q6 X5 N5 O5
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        Old Aug 7, 2015, 2:16 am
          #1439  
         
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        THanks so much for the speedy reply^

        So would you say there was still a lot of availability on both flights??
        Still unsure about paying to book seats together (there are 4 of us travelling)
        Also we were considering seat plus? But it looks like we might not need to do
        that even>

        Thanks again

        Jimmymc
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        Old Aug 7, 2015, 2:32 am
          #1440  
         
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        Originally Posted by jimmymcs
        THanks so much for the speedy reply^

        So would you say there was still a lot of availability on both flights??
        Still unsure about paying to book seats together (there are 4 of us travelling)
        Also we were considering seat plus? But it looks like we might not need to do
        that even>

        Thanks again

        Jimmymc
        Depends on what cabin you are traveling in. Economy looks empty while business looks rather busy.

        However, do be aware that these numbers doesn't actually tell you how many seats are left on the flight. They just tell you how many seats (in each booking class) BA are willing to sell at this point. There is usually a correlation between the two, but there doesn't have to be...
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