Last edit by: NWIFlyer
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check seat availability and flight loads
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What are the chances of an AUP with these flight loads. BA 98 Departure July 31. Travelling in WTP. T fare. F2, A1, J2,C0, W2, Y9,B9, H9, K9, M9, L8, V7, S6, N5, Q4, O1, G0
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As a guess, close to zero. WT+ is not full and WT has a number of seats available. AUPs are usually offered when the either the cabin or the cabin below are full as a way of reducing the number of OPUPs required. Obviously WT+ could sell out or even be oversold by tomorrow which might change the score.
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Just assessing my chances of an op up can someone please check BA0109 to DXB on August 20th!
Thanks
Thanks
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Hi, would someone be able to check the loads on the following flight? I'd be most grateful.
Saturday 8th August, BA209 LHR-MIA
Saturday 8th August, BA209 LHR-MIA
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Any chance you could also check BA0108 DXB to LHR August 25th?
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Thanks atmorris
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BA108 25th August
F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I5 W9 E6 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 SC NC QC OC G0
Looks quiet on what's still for sale
Andy
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#1422
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Could some kind soul please check the loads on the following?
AY 660 OSL - HEL 9th Oct
AY 656 OSL - HEL 10th Oct
Many thanks
AY 660 OSL - HEL 9th Oct
AY 656 OSL - HEL 10th Oct
Many thanks
#1423
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Can someone please check the loads on F for BA283 - 28/08
Secondly, I can't believe 1A & 1K have been pre booked for so long! Not that I want either but someone I am travelling with does so will book and swap!
Secondly, I can't believe 1A & 1K have been pre booked for so long! Not that I want either but someone I am travelling with does so will book and swap!
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UK POS
F6 A1 J9 C9 D7 R2 I2 W9 E9 T7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 QC O9 G9
US POS
F7 A1 J9 C9 D9 R5 I3 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 O9 G9
#1425
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Ooops apologies not normally bothered by this - it's LHR->LAX
Thought F looked quiet still!
I have before seen someone look at a seat plan or something and see if seats are blocked for GOLDS or actually reserved by other passengers. Would you be able to check this? Thanks in advance ^
Thought F looked quiet still!
I have before seen someone look at a seat plan or something and see if seats are blocked for GOLDS or actually reserved by other passengers. Would you be able to check this? Thanks in advance ^