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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Jul 30, 2015, 4:14 am
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        Join Date: Feb 2005
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        Originally Posted by atmorris
        BA229 LHR-BWI UK POS
        J6 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

        BA52 - SEA-LHR US POS
        F7 A7 J9 C8 D6 R2 W9 E8 T5 Y8 B7 H2 K2 M2 L1 G0

        Ta,
        Andy
        Thanks Andy - very helpful ^
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        Old Jul 30, 2015, 11:38 am
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        What are the chances of an AUP with these flight loads. BA 98 Departure July 31. Travelling in WTP. T fare. F2, A1, J2,C0, W2, Y9,B9, H9, K9, M9, L8, V7, S6, N5, Q4, O1, G0
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        Old Jul 30, 2015, 12:52 pm
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        Originally Posted by oblender
        What are the chances of an AUP with these flight loads. BA 98 Departure July 31. Travelling in WTP. T fare. F2, A1, J2,C0, W2, Y9,B9, H9, K9, M9, L8, V7, S6, N5, Q4, O1, G0
        As a guess, close to zero. WT+ is not full and WT has a number of seats available. AUPs are usually offered when the either the cabin or the cabin below are full as a way of reducing the number of OPUPs required. Obviously WT+ could sell out or even be oversold by tomorrow which might change the score.
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        Old Aug 1, 2015, 2:03 am
          #1414  
         
        Join Date: May 2014
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        Just assessing my chances of an op up can someone please check BA0109 to DXB on August 20th!

        Thanks
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        Old Aug 1, 2015, 3:26 am
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        Originally Posted by Chris9642
        Just assessing my chances of an op up can someone please check BA0109 to DXB on August 20th!

        Thanks
        Hi Chris
        BA109 20th August

        Plenty of tickets still up for grabs :-)

        F9 A6 J9 C9 D9 R8 I4 W2 E2 TC Y9 B8 H6 K5 M4 L2 VC SC NC QC OC G0

        Ta,
        Andy
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        Old Aug 1, 2015, 3:36 am
          #1416  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2014
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        Hi, would someone be able to check the loads on the following flight? I'd be most grateful.

        Saturday 8th August, BA209 LHR-MIA
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        Old Aug 1, 2015, 3:41 am
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        Originally Posted by atmorris
        Hi Chris
        BA109 20th August

        Plenty of tickets still up for grabs :-)

        F9 A6 J9 C9 D9 R8 I4 W2 E2 TC Y9 B8 H6 K5 M4 L2 VC SC NC QC OC G0

        Ta,
        Andy
        Great thanks - currently in CW and was hoping for a cheeky op up to First!

        Any chance you could also check BA0108 DXB to LHR August 25th?
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        Old Aug 1, 2015, 3:42 am
          #1418  
         
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        Originally Posted by headingwest
        Hi, would someone be able to check the loads on the following flight? I'd be most grateful.

        Saturday 8th August, BA209 LHR-MIA
        Hey Headingwest, here you go.

        BA209 8th August

        F1 A0 J9 C3 DC RC IC W5 EC TC Y3 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

        Ta,
        Andy
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        Old Aug 1, 2015, 3:44 am
          #1419  
         
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        Thanks atmorris
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        Old Aug 1, 2015, 3:44 am
          #1420  
         
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        Originally Posted by Chris9642
        Great thanks - currently in CW and was hoping for a cheeky op up to First!

        Any chance you could also check BA0108 DXB to LHR August 25th?
        Absolute cheek of it

        BA108 25th August

        F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I5 W9 E6 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 SC NC QC OC G0

        Looks quiet on what's still for sale

        Andy
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        Old Aug 1, 2015, 3:47 am
          #1421  
         
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        Originally Posted by atmorris
        Absolute cheek of it

        BA108 25th August

        F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R7 I5 W9 E6 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V7 SC NC QC OC G0

        Looks quiet on what's still for sale

        Andy
        Much appreciated - do you know if they always offer F upgrades at DXB if the flight is on the empty side?
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 5:14 am
          #1422  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2014
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        Could some kind soul please check the loads on the following?

        AY 660 OSL - HEL 9th Oct
        AY 656 OSL - HEL 10th Oct

        Many thanks
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 5:43 am
          #1423  
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        Can someone please check the loads on F for BA283 - 28/08

        Secondly, I can't believe 1A & 1K have been pre booked for so long! Not that I want either but someone I am travelling with does so will book and swap!
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 6:12 am
          #1424  
         
        Join Date: Feb 2009
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        Originally Posted by mikeyfly
        Can someone please check the loads on F for BA283 - 28/08

        Secondly, I can't believe 1A & 1K have been pre booked for so long! Not that I want either but someone I am travelling with does so will book and swap!
        Remember to quote the route on these requests to save the person answering your request having to google it!

        UK POS
        F6 A1 J9 C9 D7 R2 I2 W9 E9 T7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 QC O9 G9
        US POS
        F7 A1 J9 C9 D9 R5 I3 W9 E9 T6 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 O9 G9
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        Old Aug 3, 2015, 6:22 am
          #1425  
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        Ooops apologies not normally bothered by this - it's LHR->LAX

        Thought F looked quiet still!

        I have before seen someone look at a seat plan or something and see if seats are blocked for GOLDS or actually reserved by other passengers. Would you be able to check this? Thanks in advance ^
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