Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check seat availability and flight loads
Aug 2, 2014, 4:26 am
#91
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Canada
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 1,254
Thanks so much!
Aug 4, 2014, 3:23 am
#92
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ/YTZ
Programs: AA EXP, UA Prem1K
Posts: 13
BA97 LHR-YYZ Loads
FTers,
Could someone let me know how the CW load looks on Wed Aug-06 and whether there an any upper deck seats hanging around?
Thanks.
Could someone let me know how the CW load looks on Wed Aug-06 and whether there an any upper deck seats hanging around?
Thanks.
Aug 4, 2014, 3:29 am
#93
Suspended
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Location: Canada, USA, Europe
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 31,452
Showing all 9s
60 JK
61 AB J
62 AB J
Open
60 JK
61 AB J
62 AB J
Open
Aug 4, 2014, 3:30 am
#94
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: UK
Programs: I go wherever the content takes me.
Posts: 5,698
Assuming you mean 0097 which is the only 747-opped flight:
Still available on UD:
60 J K
61 AB J
62 AB J
Still available on UD:
60 J K
61 AB J
62 AB J
Aug 4, 2014, 11:41 am
#95
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: YYZ/YTZ
Programs: AA EXP, UA Prem1K
Posts: 13
Perfect, thank you both!
Aug 4, 2014, 2:22 pm
#96
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45
BA12 Sin - LHR 26/10/14
Could someone check how busy BA12 is Singapore - Lhr on 26 October The plane has been changed from a 380 to 747. so had been allocated two seats in a row of three instead of the pair we had booked on the 380. Have since managed to change them to a pair at the back of the plane, but just wondered what the likeliehood would have been if we had kept the pair of seats in the group of three??? Hope you can understand what I mean
Thanks
Maureen
Thanks
Maureen
Aug 5, 2014, 1:51 am
#97
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: UK/Las Vegas
Programs: BA Gold (GGL/CCR)
Posts: 15,914
Could someone check how busy BA12 is Singapore - Lhr on 26 October The plane has been changed from a 380 to 747. so had been allocated two seats in a row of three instead of the pair we had booked on the 380. Have since managed to change them to a pair at the back of the plane, but just wondered what the likeliehood would have been if we had kept the pair of seats in the group of three??? Hope you can understand what I mean
Thanks
Maureen
Thanks
Maureen
Code:
SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL] SUN 26 Oct 2014 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- BA 16 SIN 22:55 LHR 04:50 +1 777 F1 A0 J9 C9 D9 R7 I4 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V1 S9 N0 Q9 O0 G0 BA 12 SIN 23:20 LHR 05:10 +1 744 F7 A5 J9 C9 D9 R7 I3 W8 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V4 S9 N2 Q9 O9 G0
Last edited by Prospero; Oct 30, 2014 at 11:15 am Reason: Purge commercial link from KVS citation
Aug 6, 2014, 8:31 am
#98
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: ±38,000 feet
Programs: LH HON, BA GGL, AF Plat, EK Plat
Posts: 6,426
Hi,
I am terribly sorry to bother you with this, but could somebody check the load and seat availability on BA181 LHR-JFK on Aug 12th for me.
Thanks in advance,
NN77
I am terribly sorry to bother you with this, but could somebody check the load and seat availability on BA181 LHR-JFK on Aug 12th for me.
Thanks in advance,
NN77
Aug 6, 2014, 8:42 am
#99
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
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Posts: 15,914
Code:
LHR London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
JFK New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
TUE 12 Aug 2014
Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- -----------------------------------------------------------------
BA 117 LHR 08:30 JFK 11:05 744 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 W9 E9 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M8 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA 175 LHR 09:55 JFK 12:25 744 F7 A7 J9 C9 D8 R0 I0 W8 E8 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K2 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA/AA 1516 LHR 10:30 JFK 13:10 77W F9 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G0
BA 173 LHR 11:20 JFK 13:55 744 F7 A7 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 W9 E9 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA 177 LHR 13:10 JFK 15:50 777 F7 A7 J9 C9 D1 R0 I0 W9 E5 T1 Y7 B7 H4 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA 115 LHR 14:35 JFK 17:25 777 F6 A5 J9 C9 D9 R2 I0 W9 E8 T0 Y7 B8 H5 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA/AA 1506 LHR 15:15 JFK 18:20 77W F9 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0
BA 113 LHR 16:00 JFK 18:45 744 F6 A5 J9 C9 D5 R0 I0 W9 E5 T2 Y6 B8 H4 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA/AA 1510 LHR 17:00 JFK 20:00 77W F9 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G0
BA 179 LHR 18:05 JFK 20:55 744 F8 A8 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 W9 E7 T0 Y9 B9 H7 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA 181 LHR 19:00 JFK 22:00 777 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E7 T3 Y9 B9 H7 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
BA 183 LHR 20:05 JFK 22:45 744 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 W9 E4 T0 Y6 B7 H4 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Last edited by Prospero; Oct 30, 2014 at 11:16 am Reason: Purge commercial link from KVS citation
Aug 6, 2014, 2:44 pm
#100
Join Date: Feb 2014
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Posts: 6,426
Thanks for checking that for me Tobias-UK!
Seems like WT+ is quite opened on 181 and WT is not full (so probably no op-ups as of yet) so I will try to get AUP unless I manage to grab the exit seat in WT.
Seems like WT+ is quite opened on 181 and WT is not full (so probably no op-ups as of yet) so I will try to get AUP unless I manage to grab the exit seat in WT.
Aug 6, 2014, 4:07 pm
#101
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 45
Thanks for that Tobias!! Looks like there is quite a bit availability yet. October is quite a way off yet so that will probably change!!! Do you know if SIN to LHR is a buysdy route???
Thanks again 😁
Maureen
Thanks again 😁
Maureen
Aug 6, 2014, 4:11 pm
#102
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: UK
Programs: Mucci, BA, AF
Posts: 10,125
SIN-LHR does usually go out rammed, yes 
Aug 6, 2014, 6:47 pm
#103
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Near Edinburgh
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 9,034
During that time, J has gone from 9 to 8 during, and F has gone from 3 to 2.
So, it can be the case that you don't get a reading more reflective of loads until a day or so before departure.
Aug 7, 2014, 5:05 am
#104
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Shanghai
Programs: BAEC (Gold), PC (Plat), HH (Gold), MR (Gold)
Posts: 2,729
LHR-BOS
I'm looking to UG WT+ > CW using Avios on BA203 (17:00) LHR-BOS on 29 Aug.
Searching multiple times per day on ba.com, BA is taunting me with ever-increasing numbers of CW award seats on BA215 (18:00) and BA239 (19:25), current standing at high so far of 4 and 6 seats respectively. Been searching for this day numerous times per day for the last week and a half, and seen availability on the route come and go on an almost hourly basis, but not a sniff of anything on BA203 so far.
Does anyone know whether this is normal? I can still (cash) buy up to 9 CW seats on each flight (including BA203) if I was so inclined, so it's not sold out or anything.
Searching multiple times per day on ba.com, BA is taunting me with ever-increasing numbers of CW award seats on BA215 (18:00) and BA239 (19:25), current standing at high so far of 4 and 6 seats respectively. Been searching for this day numerous times per day for the last week and a half, and seen availability on the route come and go on an almost hourly basis, but not a sniff of anything on BA203 so far.
Does anyone know whether this is normal? I can still (cash) buy up to 9 CW seats on each flight (including BA203) if I was so inclined, so it's not sold out or anything.
Aug 12, 2014, 7:41 am
#105
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LHR
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 450
Could someone please check the loads for me on BA185 LHR-EWR for Thursday 14 August 2014 using UK point of sale please?