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Help to check seat availability and flight loads

Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Help to check seat availability and flight loads

        Old Apr 13, 2015, 11:42 pm
          #901  
         
        Join Date: Apr 2015
        Posts: 4
        Hi there, would be grateful if somebody would check the following flights for me please:

        24 April AA080 DFW-LHR
        3 May AA079 LHR-DFW

        Thanks a lot!
        gkadam is offline  
        Old Apr 14, 2015, 12:19 am
          #902  
         
        Join Date: Apr 2005
        Location: LHR
        Programs: BA Gold, TG Gold, HHonors Diamond, SPG Plat
        Posts: 8,665
        24 April AA080 DFW-LHR
        J6 R6 I3 D5 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 S7 N7 O7 Q7
        This is a B767-300

        3 May AA079 LHR-DFW
        F7 A7 P7 J7 R7 D7 I5 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 S7 N7 O7 Q7
        This is an old style 777
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        Old Apr 14, 2015, 8:43 am
          #903  
         
        Join Date: May 2008
        Programs: BA
        Posts: 199
        Could someone kindly take a look at the following flight (for the last time; I realise I've asked a couple of times). I'm thinking it's very busy:

        MIA - LHR BA208 18 APR.

        Thanks!
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        Old Apr 14, 2015, 8:51 am
          #904  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2012
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        Originally Posted by cristo
        Could someone kindly take a look at the following flight (for the last time; I realise I've asked a couple of times). I'm thinking it's very busy:

        MIA - LHR BA208 18 APR.

        Thanks!
        F0 A0 J0 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

        Sold out in a UK POS
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        Old Apr 14, 2015, 8:53 am
          #905  
         
        Join Date: May 2008
        Programs: BA
        Posts: 199
        Originally Posted by MPH1980
        F0 A0 J0 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

        Sold out in a UK POS
        Thanks - this is gonna be a fun flight at the back
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        Old Apr 14, 2015, 8:53 am
          #906  
         
        Join Date: Apr 2015
        Posts: 4
        Thanks KenJohn!
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        Old Apr 14, 2015, 1:36 pm
          #907  
         
        Join Date: Feb 2015
        Programs: Gold Actually
        Posts: 271
        Please can someone check auh-lhr on 19/4/2015 - BA 0072.
        Mrs Castle25 in J

        thanks in advance
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        Old Apr 14, 2015, 1:50 pm
          #908  
         
        Join Date: Nov 2011
        Location: London
        Programs: BA Gold
        Posts: 4,026
        Originally Posted by castle25
        please can someone check auh-lhr on 19/4/2015 - ba 0072.
        Mrs castle25 in j

        thanks in advance
        f0 a0 j8 c7 d6 r5 i4 w1 e1 y0 b0 h0 k0 m0 g0
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        Old Apr 15, 2015, 12:59 am
          #909  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2015
        Location: Heathrow
        Programs: BAEC Gold
        Posts: 138
        Originally Posted by LionRed
        Can someone please help me with the following load:

        BA169 LHR-PVG 27 March


        Thanks
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        Old Apr 15, 2015, 3:23 am
          #910  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2013
        Programs: QFF Silver, BA Blue, GF Silver, 3V Emerald
        Posts: 141
        21st April LHR - SIN & 22nd April SIN - SYD (BA15)

        Could someone please check the loads on this, the BA website has puzzled me:

        In MMB there are only 3 empty seats showing (I know some may be blocked off for Golds and some pax may change in Singapore which would explain that).

        But what does surprise me is that BA would allow me to book 6 seats from LHR-SYD on 21st April but only 5 from SIN-SYD on 22nd April (same plane).

        Any ideas?
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        Old Apr 15, 2015, 3:50 am
          #911  
         
        Join Date: Aug 2012
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        Originally Posted by stevejnr
        Could someone please check the loads on this, the BA website has puzzled me:

        In MMB there are only 3 empty seats showing (I know some may be blocked off for Golds and some pax may change in Singapore which would explain that).

        But what does surprise me is that BA would allow me to book 6 seats from LHR-SYD on 21st April but only 5 from SIN-SYD on 22nd April (same plane).

        Any ideas?
        LHR-SIN

        F7 A6 J9 C7 D5 R2 IC W9 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L7 V3 S1 N9 QC O9 G9

        SIN-SYD

        F5 A4 J9 C3 D1 RC IC W9 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K7 M4 L6 V3 S1 N9 QC O9 G9

        LHR-SYD

        F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 R6 I3 W9 E3 TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V6 S5 N9 Q1 O9 G9

        People can get off and on board in SIN ...
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        Old Apr 15, 2015, 4:23 am
          #912  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2009
        Location: Near Edinburgh
        Programs: BA Silver
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        Could someone share the loads for the 13:55 LHR-SFO (BA287) on 18th April please.
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        Old Apr 15, 2015, 4:34 am
          #913  
         
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        Originally Posted by Paralytic
        Could someone share the loads for the 13:55 LHR-SFO (BA287) on 18th April please.
        F1 A0 J4 C3 D3 R2 IC W0 EC TC Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

        Pretty damn busy
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        Old Apr 15, 2015, 4:47 am
          #914  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2009
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        Originally Posted by MPH1980
        F1 A0 J4 C3 D3 R2 IC W0 EC TC Y7 B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0

        Pretty damn busy
        Thanks. I'm in WT+, and was wondering whether Avios availability might open up (it did for my return, but very unlikely here) or whether an AUP might be available.
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        Old Apr 15, 2015, 11:23 am
          #915  
         
        Join Date: Apr 2008
        Location: ARN
        Programs: Miles&More, Hemköp kundkort
        Posts: 275
        Would someone be able to check these, please?

        BA 283 LHR-LAX Tuesday 21 April
        BA 2352 (US 732) CLT-LHR Tuesday 28 April.

        Much appreciated, thanks!
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