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Help to check seat availability and flight loads

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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Jul 25, 14, 11:52 am
          #76  
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        Originally Posted by smithyr4 View Post
        could somebody check BA576 (lhr-lin) tomorrow, 26th july
        Looks overbooked:

        [KVS Availability Tool 7.4.0/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
        Code:
        LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
        LIN  Milan Linate IT [LIML]
        SAT  26 Jul 2014
        
        Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
        ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------
        BA         564     LHR   07:40     LIN   10:35     319      J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S0 O0 G0
        BA         576     LHR   09:10     LIN   12:05     319      J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y4 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S2 O0 G0
        BA         574     LHR   10:35     LIN   13:30     319      J3 C2 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S0 O0 G0
        BA         562     LHR   12:05     LIN   15:05     319      J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S0 O0 G0
        BA         568     LHR   15:20     LIN   18:20     319      J9 C5 D4 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K3 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S9 O0 G4
        BA         588     LHR   16:00     LIN   19:00     320      J5 C3 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H6 K1 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S9 O0 G9
        BA         570     LHR   18:35     LIN   21:30     320      J6 C3 D2 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H3 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S9 O0 G8

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        Old Jul 25, 14, 12:02 pm
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        Originally Posted by KVS View Post
        Looks overbooked:

        [KVS Availability Tool 7.4.0/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
        Code:
        LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
        LIN  Milan Linate IT [LIML]
        SAT  26 Jul 2014
        
        Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
        ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------
        BA         564     LHR   07:40     LIN   10:35     319      J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S0 O0 G0
        BA         576     LHR   09:10     LIN   12:05     319      J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y4 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S2 O0 G0
        BA         574     LHR   10:35     LIN   13:30     319      J3 C2 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S0 O0 G0
        BA         562     LHR   12:05     LIN   15:05     319      J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S0 O0 G0
        BA         568     LHR   15:20     LIN   18:20     319      J9 C5 D4 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K3 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S9 O0 G4
        BA         588     LHR   16:00     LIN   19:00     320      J5 C3 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H6 K1 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S9 O0 G9
        BA         570     LHR   18:35     LIN   21:30     320      J6 C3 D2 R0 I0 Y9 B9 H3 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 S9 O0 G8

        thanks for looking!

        I'm a blue so won't get an op-up (has happened 4 times on long haul though!!) but do they ask for volunteers or just upgrade? whats the compensation like?

        thanks again

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        Old Jul 25, 14, 3:26 pm
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        Could someone be so kind as to check the loads in y and wt+ on ba 99 LHR to YYZ July 28th
        Many thanks
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        Old Jul 25, 14, 4:15 pm
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        Originally Posted by aircrashsurvivor View Post
        Could someone be so kind as to check the loads in y and wt+ on ba 99 LHR to YYZ July 28th
        Many thanks
        F3 A3 J9 C9 D8 R8 I7 W4 E2 TC Y6 B2 HL KL ML LC VC SC NC QC OC GL

        Y looking full-ish. WT+ probably also full-ish but still selling due to plenty of space in CW.
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        Old Jul 31, 14, 3:22 pm
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        Can someone with KVS/Expert Flyer check the BA285 LHR-SFO on Saturday (2nd Aug) for me?

        I'm in WT+, but the flight is not showing on FlightStats.com availability and I'm getting the "Unfortunately it is not possible for you to choose a seat at this time." error on ba.com. Thankfully, I've previous selected 12B.

        I suspect its zeroed out across the board. Can anyone confirm?
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        Old Jul 31, 14, 3:33 pm
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        Originally Posted by Paralytic View Post
        Can someone with KVS/Expert Flyer check the BA285 LHR-SFO on Saturday (2nd Aug) for me?

        I'm in WT+, but the flight is not showing on FlightStats.com availability and I'm getting the "Unfortunately it is not possible for you to choose a seat at this time." error on ba.com. Thankfully, I've previous selected 12B.

        I suspect its zeroed out across the board. Can anyone confirm?
        Indeed, it is completely zeroed-out:

        [KVS Availability Tool 7.4.1/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
        Code:
        LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
        SFO  San Francisco Intl CA US [KSFO]
        SAT  02 Aug 2014
        
        Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
        ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
        BA         285     LHR   11:30     SFO   14:35     744      F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         287     LHR   14:15     SFO   17:10     744      F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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        Old Jul 31, 14, 3:37 pm
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        It shows as zeroed out on flightstats for me.
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        Old Jul 31, 14, 3:40 pm
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        Originally Posted by KVS View Post
        Indeed, it is completely zeroed-out:

        [KVS Availability Tool 7.4.1/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
        Code:
        LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
        SFO  San Francisco Intl CA US [KSFO]
        SAT  02 Aug 2014
        
        Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
        ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
        BA         285     LHR   11:30     SFO   14:35     744      F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         287     LHR   14:15     SFO   17:10     744      F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        Thanks. I hadn't checked the later flight and I'm on a 1 hour connection EDI-LHR (same PNR). I hope my earlier flight is not delayed.
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        Old Jul 31, 14, 3:41 pm
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        Originally Posted by windowontheAside View Post
        It shows as zeroed out on flightstats for me.
        The BA285? I only see the BA287 there.
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        Old Jul 31, 14, 3:42 pm
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        Yep, the 285. Well, and the 287 of course.
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        Old Jul 31, 14, 3:46 pm
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        Originally Posted by windowontheAside View Post
        Yep, the 285. Well, and the 287 of course.
        Weird, definitely not shown for me, even when I choose the advanced mode and select BA only.
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        Old Jul 31, 14, 3:51 pm
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        That's exactly how I found it. Strange.
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        Old Aug 1, 14, 2:21 am
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        Originally Posted by windowontheAside View Post
        That's exactly how I found it. Strange.
        Its reappeared on FlightStats for me this morning, now with Y1.

        I managed to checkin OK though (was half expecting the "checking at airport" message), so they must have juggled things about enough.
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        Old Aug 1, 14, 2:29 am
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        Would anyone be able to check seating availability in WT+ for BA99 LHR-YYZ on August 8? I am considering taking a POUG but don't want to if only middle seats are available.

        Thanks in advance!
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        Old Aug 1, 14, 4:09 am
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        Originally Posted by Ziz View Post
        Would anyone be able to check seating availability in WT+ for BA99 LHR-YYZ on August 8? I am considering taking a POUG but don't want to if only middle seats are available.

        Thanks in advance!
        [KVS Availability Tool 7.4.1/Diamond - Enhanced Seat Map: 08 Aug 2014/BA 99/LHR-YYZ/777/Premium Economy]
        Code:
             A   B   |   D   E   F   G   |   J   K    
        21   X   +       +   X   X   +       +   X    
        22   -   +       +   -   -   -       -   -    
        23   -   -       -   +   +   +       -   -    
        24   -   -       -   -   -   -       +   +    
        
        [+] Available     [P] Preferred   [G] Galley
        [-] Unavailable   [X] Blocked     [|] Aisle

        Last edited by Prospero; Oct 30, 14 at 11:15 am Reason: Purge commercial link from KVS citation
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