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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Jun 25, 14, 2:53 am
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        Just checked Flightstats for a BA flight SIN-LHR VV in december with 2 pax.

        11-dec-14 SIN-LHR
        27-dec-14 LHR-SIN

        Looking for D-R-T or E class. seems none available.
        Also noticed 0F, 0C and a few seats in Y and only one flight those dates instead of 2 normally.. any thoughts if this will change closer to departure? (I assume not).

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        Old Jun 25, 14, 3:18 am
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        Are you based in SIN? From UK PoS seems to be something for you. Only one flight outbound on 27th which impatcs that flight, but 2 x E class there.

        11 DEC: SIN LHR 2310#0450 BA 12 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R4 I1 W9 E9 TC
        Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
        O9 G9

        11 DEC: SIN LHR 2315#0520 BA 16 F8 A0 J9 C9 D9 R1 IC W9 E9 T2
        Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V5 S9 N3 QC
        OC G0


        27 DEC: LHR SIN 2155#1840 BA 15 F0 A0 J9 C9 DC RC IC W9 E2 TC
        Y9 B9 H5 K2 MC LC VC SC NC QC
        OC G0
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        Old Jun 25, 14, 3:58 am
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        Originally Posted by Sam Bee View Post
        Are you based in SIN? From UK PoS seems to be something for you. Only one flight outbound on 27th which impatcs that flight, but 2 x E class there.

        11 DEC: SIN LHR 2310#0450 BA 12 F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R4 I1 W9 E9 TC
        Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9
        O9 G9

        11 DEC: SIN LHR 2315#0520 BA 16 F8 A0 J9 C9 D9 R1 IC W9 E9 T2
        Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V5 S9 N3 QC
        OC G0


        27 DEC: LHR SIN 2155#1840 BA 15 F0 A0 J9 C9 DC RC IC W9 E2 TC
        Y9 B9 H5 K2 MC LC VC SC NC QC
        OC G0
        Thanks Sam Bee, I am curently based in SIN. Corporate rates for E class are interesting but are Singapore PoS.

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        Old Jul 20, 14, 8:15 am
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        Loads BA175

        Hey everybody,

        my dad will be flying in WTP BA175 LHR-JFK on 2 August. To me it seems like it will be a very full flight. Can anyone look up the loads in CW, WTP, and WT?

        How would you estimate the chances of CW award space opening up? Or an Op-Up

        Sorry for asking so much lately, but my family and I are currently picking up on flying BA

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        Old Jul 20, 14, 9:53 am
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        Does anyone know if the FlightStats website is able to show award seat availability? I can't seem to be able to find the award fare codes on the listing of seat availability.

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        Old Jul 20, 14, 9:54 am
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        Originally Posted by theultimateflyer View Post
        Does anyone know if the FlightStats website is able to show award seat availability?
        It doesn't show this.
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        Old Jul 20, 14, 9:19 pm
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        Originally Posted by Willi90 View Post
        my dad will be flying in WTP BA175 LHR-JFK on 2 August. To me it seems like it will be a very full flight. Can anyone look up the loads in CW, WTP, and WT?

        How would you estimate the chances of CW award space opening up? Or an Op-Up
        The flight is likely overbooked in Y and/or W:

        [KVS Availability Tool 7.4.0/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
        Code:
        LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
        JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
        SAT  02 Aug 2014
        
        Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
        ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
        BA         117     LHR   08:30     JFK   11:05     744      F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B8 H2 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         175     LHR   09:55     JFK   12:25     744      F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W1 E1 T0 Y3 B2 H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA/AA      1516    LHR   10:30     JFK   13:10     77W      F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         173     LHR   11:20     JFK   13:55     744      F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y4 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         177     LHR   13:10     JFK   15:50     777      F2 A2 J9 C9 D8 R8 I0 W3 E2 T0 Y9 B7 H5 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         115     LHR   14:35     JFK   17:25     744      F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W1 E1 T0 Y9 B7 H5 K1 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA/AA      1506    LHR   15:15     JFK   18:20     77W      F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         113     LHR   16:00     JFK   18:45     744      F4 A4 J6 C6 D6 R5 I0 W6 E3 T0 Y6 B5 H1 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA/AA      1510    LHR   17:00     JFK   20:00     77W      F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B9 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         179     LHR   18:05     JFK   20:55     744      F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T3 Y9 B9 H8 K1 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         181     LHR   19:00     JFK   22:00     777      F7 A6 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         183     LHR   20:05     JFK   22:45     744      F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K2 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

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        Old Jul 22, 14, 4:14 am
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        Old Jul 22, 14, 4:45 am
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        I am subscribed to KVS and pay already for years to them but unfortunately the system is not working in the rare cases I need it. At the moment I wait for already two weeks (!)after paying for the new registration code but no answer!

        This is not our major problem. We are booked on TP 664 LIS - AMS on august 1th 07:05, booking was made by expedia. Now from voices in the air we heared that this flight was cancelled - no information by the airline. I contacted expedia this morning and I got the information flight is "confirmed" I asked please doublecheck with the airline. After a while they phoned me back and confirmed that TP 664 is cancelled and the airline offers full refund of the ticket or rebooking to august 2th at 19:55 with TP 668 arriving august 2th 23:50. This means instead of arriving friday in the morning arriving on saturday around midnight in AMS which can be fun as well.

        My question for help now: Can anybody check the availibility of seats on august 1th on LIS - AMS for me and post the result here?
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        Old Jul 22, 14, 8:11 am
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        Originally Posted by carpetbagger View Post
        I am subscribed to KVS and pay already for years to them but unfortunately the system is not working in the rare cases I need it. At the moment I wait for already two weeks (!)after paying for the new registration code but no answer!
        New Temporary Registration Codes are automatically issued by the system in real-time. Please be sure to follow the on-screen renewal instructions to avoid unnecessary delays.

        Originally Posted by carpetbagger View Post
        This is not our major problem. We are booked on TP 664 LIS - AMS on august 1th 07:05, booking was made by expedia. Now from voices in the air we heared that this flight was cancelled - no information by the airline. I contacted expedia this morning and I got the information flight is "confirmed" I asked please doublecheck with the airline. After a while they phoned me back and confirmed that TP 664 is cancelled and the airline offers full refund of the ticket or rebooking to august 2th at 19:55 with TP 668 arriving august 2th 23:50. This means instead of arriving friday in the morning arriving on saturday around midnight in AMS which can be fun as well.

        My question for help now: Can anybody check the availibility of seats on august 1th on LIS - AMS for me and post the result here?
        There are 2 seats left on the late evening flight:

        [KVS Availability Tool 7.4.0/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
        Code:
        LIS  Lisbon Portela-Lisboa PT [LPPT]
        AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
        FRI  01 Aug 2014
        
        Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
        ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------------
        KL         1692    LIS   05:00     AMS   09:00     73H      J5 C5 D5 I5 Z0 Y9 B9 M9 U0 K9 H6 L0 Q1 T0 E0 N0 R0 V0 G0
        AY/TP      6774    LIS   07:05     AMS   11:00     321      J0 C0 D0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 P0 T0 V0 L0 N0 S0 Q0 O0 Z0 R0 W0
        S4/TP      8642    LIS   07:05     AMS   11:00     321      C0 D0 I0 Y0 B0 M0 K0 W0 S0 H0 N0 V0
        KL         1696    LIS   11:40     AMS   15:35     73H      J4 C4 D4 I3 Z4 Y4 B3 M1 U0 K0 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 R0 V0 G0
        TP/NI      662     LIS   13:10     AMS   17:05     100      C3 D3 Z3 J0 R0 Y0 B0 M0 S0 H0 Q0 P0 V0 W0 A0 K0 L0 U0 E0 T0 O0 G0 N0
        AY/##      6772    LIS   13:10     AMS   17:05     100      J4 C4 D4 I4 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 P0 T0 V0 L0 N0 S0 Q0 O0 Z0 R0 W0
        KL         1694    LIS   15:35     AMS   19:35     73W      J8 C8 D8 I7 Z0 Y9 B9 M0 U0 K9 H9 L0 Q6 T0 E0 N0 R0 V0 G0
        TP         668     LIS   19:55     AMS   23:50     320      C2 D2 Z2 J0 R0 Y2 B2 M2 S2 H2 Q1 P0 V0 W0 A2 K0 L0 U0 E0 T0 O0 G0 N0
        SN         3816    LIS   13:50     BRU   17:30     320      J2 C2 D2 Z2 P2 I0 Y9 B9 M4 U4 H3 X0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 E0 L0 K0
         -> KL/##  1732    BRU   18:20     AMS   19:15     E90      J9 C9 D9 I9 Z0 O9 Y9 B9 M9 U? K9 H0 L0 Q0 T0 E0 N0 R0 V0 G0 X0
        IB         3109    LIS   12:25     MAD   14:50     320      J6 C0 D5 U3 R0 I3 Y9 B9 T4 H0 K0 M0 Z0 L0 A0 V0 S0 G0 W0 N0 Q0 O0 P0 E4
         -> IB/I2  3724    MAD   15:50     AMS   18:25     32S      J6 C0 D5 U0 R0 I3 Y9 B9 T0 H0 K0 M0 Z0 L0 A0 V0 S0 G0 W0 N0 Q0 O0 P0 E0

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        Old Jul 22, 14, 10:48 am
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        Originally Posted by KVS View Post
        New Temporary Registration Codes are automatically issued by the system in real-time. Please be sure to follow the on-screen renewal instructions to avoid unnecessary delays.

        [/CODE]

        Thank you for the quick respnose.

        I received the temporary registration codes immediatley but never the original registration code.

        Maybe you can send me the email adress? Nobody is answering on my emails.
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        Old Jul 23, 14, 1:31 pm
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        Originally Posted by carpetbagger View Post
        Thank you for the quick respnose.

        I received the temporary registration codes immediatley but never the original registration code.
        We have no record of receiving a request from your account, until yesterday (when you have submitted it 4 times).

        Originally Posted by carpetbagger View Post
        Maybe you can send me the email adress? Nobody is answering on my emails.
        Your Permanent Registration Code was issued yesterday and a reply has also been sent to you via e-mail.
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        Old Jul 25, 14, 10:59 am
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        Could somebody again check BA175 from LHR to JFK on 2 August? Because from my perception, WT and WTP are sold out completely. Can anyone look at the seat maps for CW and F to estimate the loads in there? Just wanna know whether it is heavily overbooked in lower classes or just generally full
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        Old Jul 25, 14, 11:16 am
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        Originally Posted by Willi90 View Post
        Could somebody again check BA175 from LHR to JFK on 2 August?
        Not much has changed:

        [KVS Availability Tool 7.4.0/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
        Code:
        LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
        JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
        SAT  02 Aug 2014
        
        Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
        ---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
        BA         117     LHR   08:30     JFK   11:05     744      F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 R5 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y2 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         175     LHR   09:55     JFK   12:25     744      F6 A5 J5 C5 D4 R1 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA/AA      1516    LHR   10:30     JFK   13:10     77W      F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         173     LHR   11:20     JFK   13:55     744      F8 A8 J7 C9 D7 R2 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y4 B4 H2 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         177     LHR   13:10     JFK   15:50     777      F2 A2 J5 C5 D5 R0 I0 W2 E2 T0 Y2 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         115     LHR   14:35     JFK   17:25     744      F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y8 B9 H4 K2 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA/AA      1506    LHR   15:15     JFK   18:20     77W      F0 A0 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         113     LHR   16:00     JFK   18:45     744      F4 A4 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W8 E3 T0 Y4 B5 H2 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA/AA      1510    LHR   17:00     JFK   20:00     77W      F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 Y9 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         179     LHR   18:05     JFK   20:55     744      F9 A9 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W9 E9 T4 Y9 B9 H9 K4 M4 L4 V4 S2 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         181     LHR   19:00     JFK   22:00     777      F7 A7 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W6 E5 T2 Y4 B4 H4 K1 M1 L1 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        BA         183     LHR   20:05     JFK   22:45     744      F8 A8 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y4 B4 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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        Old Jul 25, 14, 11:46 am
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        hi

        could somebody check BA576 (lhr-lin) tomorrow, 26th july

        it says '5' on economy, is that oversold?

        thanks!
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