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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Jun 2, 2017, 9:54 pm
          #5221  
         
        Join Date: Mar 2009
        Location: London
        Programs: BAEC Silver, Priority Club Gold, Herts Pres Circle
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        Originally Posted by Shl
        Can anybody help with the loads for

        BA0011 LHR-SIN Jun 3 19:55

        Many thanks!
        Morning,

        Here we go, with a UK

        BA 11
        LHR 19:55 → SIN 16:05

        F2 A1 J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M6 L3 V3 S3 N3 Q1 O1 G9
        Stops: 0
        Aircraft: 388
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        Old Jun 3, 2017, 1:18 am
          #5222  
         
        Join Date: Feb 2012
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        Load check request - BA108, 4 June

        I'm hoping that lightning doesn't strike twice given the fun and games on our outbound to DXB last weekend... but I've now got the dreaded 'can't check you in online' message for our return flights (4 of us in WTP).

        Just wondering if a downgrade or IDB could be on the cards...

        if anyone could do a load check for me, it would be appreciated. Thank you!

        RC
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        Old Jun 3, 2017, 1:26 am
          #5223  
         
        Join Date: Oct 2015
        Location: London, UK
        Programs: BAEC GGL/GFl, HH Diamond, BW Diamond, Virgin Voyages Deep Blue Extra, Blue Peter Badge Holder
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        Perhaps it's an upgrade

        You can sign up for 5 days free on ExpertFlyer so you should be able ot check yourself unless you've already used the free trial.
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        Old Jun 3, 2017, 1:28 am
          #5224  
        nux
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        More likely an opup than downgrade:

        US POS F2 A2 J9 C7 D7 R7 I7 W3 E1 T1 Y5 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        UK POS F2 A2 J9 C0 D0 R0 I3 W3 E0 T0 Y5 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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        Old Jun 3, 2017, 1:33 am
          #5225  
         
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        Originally Posted by nux
        More likely an opup than downgrade:

        US POS F2 A2 J9 C7 D7 R7 I7 W3 E1 T1 Y5 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        UK POS F2 A2 J9 C0 D0 R0 I3 W3 E0 T0 Y5 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
        I can only hope! Along with my 2 year silver extension, that really would be a good way to round off a trip that started so badly...

        navylad, yes, need to bite the bullet and pay I suspect...

        thank you
        RC
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        Old Jun 3, 2017, 1:42 am
          #5226  
         
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        Yes, I paid for it for a bit, and then came to the realisation as I generally wasn't looking for OpUps and not playing curtain roulette, it wasn't providing great value for me

        I'm sure one day I'll really want some info that it can provide and then perhaps I'll part with some more money.

        Best of luck with the flight home and hope you've had a good time in DXB.
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        Old Jun 3, 2017, 3:32 am
          #5227  
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        Can anyone help by pulling up a seating plan for me, please? I've got seats allocated [apparently] but due to an[other] IT glitch ba.com/MMB is only showing me the F cabin. Interested to discover if there are any better seats available than those allocated by BA.

        14 Jun, BA2157, LGW-ANU, B777, I class, in 11 J/K
        21 Jun, BA2256, ANU-LGW, B777, I class, in 12 A/B
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        Old Jun 3, 2017, 4:05 am
          #5228  
        Shl
         
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        Thanks a lot MHendo84 !
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        Old Jun 4, 2017, 2:06 pm
          #5229  
         
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        Originally Posted by navylad
        Yes, I paid for it for a bit, and then came to the realisation as I generally wasn't looking for OpUps and not playing curtain roulette, it wasn't providing great value for me

        I'm sure one day I'll really want some info that it can provide and then perhaps I'll part with some more money.

        Best of luck with the flight home and hope you've had a good time in DXB.
        Thanks navylad, yes, a good time was had by all, apart from us effectively losing the first day. As for the return, the check-in issue was sadly all too predictable, in that whilst BA Holidays had rescheduled our return, they had not reticketed it. That's 40 minutes of my life on the phone to them at DXB that I'd like to have back - only just made it in the end...

        Anyway, the compensation will come in quite handy, so mustn't grumble too much!
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        Old Jun 4, 2017, 10:02 pm
          #5230  
         
        Join Date: Dec 2016
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        Would someone be kind enough to check the load on the following flights for me?

        Heading back to the US with the whole family for home leave:

        Chhatrapati Shivaji Intl (Mumbai) to Heathrow (London)
        BA198, 13:10, Mon 12 Jun 2017

        Heathrow to SeaTac -
        BA049 15:30, Tues 13 Jun 2017

        Much appreciated.
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        Old Jun 4, 2017, 11:33 pm
          #5231  
         
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        Originally Posted by harry harry
        would someone be kind enough to check the load on the following flights for me?

        Heading back to the us with the whole family for home leave:

        Chhatrapati shivaji intl (mumbai) to heathrow (london)
        ba198, 13:10, mon 12 jun 2017

        heathrow to seatac -
        ba049 15:30, tues 13 jun 2017

        much appreciated.
        ba198
        f6 a6 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e9 t6 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o0 g0

        ba49
        f1 a1 j7 c1 d0 r0 i0 w1 e0 t0 y9 b9 h8 k6 m5 l4 v4 s3 n0 q0 o0 g0
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        Old Jun 4, 2017, 11:37 pm
          #5232  
         
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        Originally Posted by harry harry
        would someone be kind enough to check the load on the following flights for me?

        Heading back to the us with the whole family for home leave:

        Chhatrapati shivaji intl (mumbai) to heathrow (london)
        ba198, 13:10, mon 12 jun 2017

        heathrow to seatac -
        ba049 15:30, tues 13 jun 2017

        much appreciated.
        Expert Flyer - US POS

        ba 198 bom 12/06/17 13:10 lhr 12/06/17 18:25 777

        f6 a6 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e9 t9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s7 n5 q2 o0 g0


        ba 49 lhr 13/06/17 15:30 sea 13/06/17 17:10 744

        f1 a1 j7 c3 d3 r1 i0 w1 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v7 s6 n1 q0 o0 g0
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        Old Jun 5, 2017, 1:26 am
          #5233  
         
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        Interesting. Mine was from a UK POS.
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        Old Jun 5, 2017, 3:24 am
          #5234  
         
        Join Date: Jul 2011
        Location: London, UK
        Posts: 120
        Can anyone check the following for me?

        Wednesday 7th June

        TLV - LHR

        BA166 07:45 - 11:10
        BA162 09:45 - 13:20
        BA164 16:35 - 19:55

        Thanks!
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        Old Jun 5, 2017, 4:05 am
          #5235  
         
        Join Date: Sep 2013
        Programs: BA CCR, HHonors Diamond, Starwood Platinum, Hyatt Diamond
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        Hello load checkers!!

        How is BA 106 looking DXB - LHR on 10th June?

        Thanks!
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