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Help to check seat availability and flight loads

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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old May 16, 17, 9:32 pm
          #5131  
         
        Join Date: Jan 2014
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        Originally Posted by deeman View Post
        Can I request someone to check loads on BA 84 from YVR to LHR on Tuesday May 23.

        Per the seat map not much left in Premium Economy but wide open in Club. My family of 3 are in premium economy and I was hoping for a way to upgrade. Unfortunately we are on a connecting flight to Glasgow so no Pro active Online Upgrades showing up....

        thanks in advance.
        BA84 May 23rd:

        F4 A3 J9 C3 D3 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G9
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        Old May 16, 17, 10:19 pm
          #5132  
         
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        Originally Posted by Mixbury View Post
        BA84 May 23rd:

        F4 A3 J9 C3 D3 R0 I0 W9 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q0 O0 G9
        thanks. Interesting they are willing to sell W class but only 3 seats show up on the seat map there. I guess not much hope of an airport upgrade then.
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        Old May 16, 17, 10:57 pm
          #5133  
         
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        Originally Posted by deeman View Post
        thanks. Interesting they are willing to sell W class but only 3 seats show up on the seat map there
        It just means they are prepared to oversell WTP based on the load in CW.

        Originally Posted by deeman View Post
        I guess not much hope of an airport upgrade then.
        If CW is light then yes there might be, depending on revenue management for the route, but also with WTP busy, the chance of a DUT.
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        Old May 17, 17, 5:06 am
          #5134  
         
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        Can someone check the BA209 to MIA on 24/05/17 & the BA208 to LHR on 30/05/17.

        Thanks
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        Old May 17, 17, 5:09 am
          #5135  
         
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        Originally Posted by tuggster View Post
        can someone check the ba209 to mia on 24/05/17 & the ba208 to lhr on 30/05/17.

        Thanks
        uk pos

        ba 209
        lhr 24/05/17 13:45
        mia 24/05/17 18:15
        744
        f2 a0 j9 c1 d1 r0 i0 w9 e9 t5 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9

        ba 208
        mia 30/05/17 20:40
        lhr 31/05/17 10:20
        744
        f3 a1 j9 c9 d9 r9 i0 w3 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n8 q5 o4 g0
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        Old May 17, 17, 5:09 am
          #5136  
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        Originally Posted by Tuggster View Post
        Can someone check the BA209 to MIA on 24/05/17 & the BA208 to LHR on 30/05/17.

        Thanks
        Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LHR on 05/24/17 12:00 AM for MIA
        Flying BA  
        Direct/Non-Stop Only
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        
        0 Connections
        BA 209        0      LHR                MIA                744       Daily           F2 A0 J9 C1 D1 R0 I0 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9 
                             05/24/17 1:45 PM   05/24/17 6:15 PM             68% / 39m
        Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing MIA on 05/30/17 12:00 AM for LHR
        Flying BA  
        Direct/Non-Stop Only
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        
        0 Connections
        BA 208        0      MIA                LHR                744       Su,M,T,W,Th,F   F3 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N8 Q5 O4 G0 
                             05/30/17 8:40 PM   05/31/17 10:20 AM            50% / 34m
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        Old May 17, 17, 6:25 am
          #5137  
         
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        cheers
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        Old May 17, 17, 10:51 am
          #5138  
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        Would someone mind checking the loads for BA346 (LHR-NCE) on Saturday 20th May?

        Many thanks

        M
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        Old May 17, 17, 11:41 am
          #5139  
         
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        Originally Posted by msm2000uk View Post
        would someone mind checking the loads for ba346 (lhr-nce) on saturday 20th may?

        Many thanks

        m
        j9 c1 d0 r0 i0 y9 b9 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 n0 q0 o0 s0 g0
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        Old May 17, 17, 12:51 pm
          #5140  
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        Originally Posted by MPH1980 View Post
        j9 c1 d0 r0 i0 y9 b9 h0 k0 m0 l0 v0 n0 q0 o0 s0 g0
        Many thanks MPH1980.

        Looks busy, albeit with the CFF going on, I can't say I'm surprised.

        M
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        Old May 18, 17, 11:22 am
          #5141  
         
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        Copa Seat Availability

        Can someone tell me the amount available seats in Business? Thank you!

        COPA 303
        LAX to PTY
        May 25, 11:50 PM

        and

        COPA 302
        PTY to LAX
        Jun 2, 6:38 PM

        Trying to bid for biz class
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        Old May 18, 17, 11:39 am
          #5142  
         
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        Would appreciate if someone could check the loads on:

        BA 224 (MSY-LHR) 20 May

        BA49 (LHR-SEA) 23 May

        Thanks!
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        Old May 18, 17, 2:53 pm
          #5143  
         
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        BA9 on 6 July and BA10 on 28 September please, thanks.
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        Old May 18, 17, 4:19 pm
          #5144  
         
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        Originally Posted by B747forever View Post
        Would appreciate if someone could check the loads on:

        BA 224 (MSY-LHR) 20 May

        BA49 (LHR-SEA) 23 May

        Thanks!
        BA 224 0
        MSY 05/20/17 9:15 PM
        LHR 05/21/17 11:55 AM
        788
        M,W,F,Sa
        J8 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L6 V3 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9

        BA 49 0
        LHR 05/23/17 3:30 PM
        SEA 05/23/17 5:10 PM
        744
        T,Th
        F9 A9 J7 C2 D0 R0 I0 W3 E0 T0 Y5 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

        Pilot37
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        Old May 18, 17, 4:25 pm
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        Originally Posted by Noppasit View Post
        BA9 on 6 July and BA10 on 28 September please, thanks.
        BA 9
        LHR 07/06/17 4:00 PM
        BKK 07/07/17 9:40 AM
        777
        Daily
        J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T5 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M7 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

        BA 10
        BKK 09/28/17 11:40 AM
        LHR 09/28/17 6:20 PM
        777
        Daily
        J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        Pls include the routing in future requests as most people will search EF via the airport codes.

        Pilot37
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