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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
  • Expert Flyer (subscription. 5 day free trial available)
  • KVS Tool Mobile Companion (Membership required)**
  • ITA Matrix (true/false availability for number of seats in specified bucket)

* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
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What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old May 6, 17, 5:25 am
  #5071  
 
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Can someone advise on the current load of:

BA31 LHR to HK departing on Fri 12 May
BA28 Hk to LHR departing on Thu 18 May
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Old May 6, 17, 5:28 am
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Originally Posted by ibbitsc View Post
can someone advise on the current load of:

Uk position

ba31 lhr to hk departing on fri 12 may

ba 31
lhr 12/05/17 18:40
hkg 13/05/17 13:40
388
f8 a7 j9 c6 d3 r0 i0 w9 e5 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n0 q0 o0 g9

ba28 hk to lhr departing on thu 18 may
ba 28
hkg 18/05/17 23:45
lhr 19/05/17 5:35
777
f5 a0 j3 c0 d0 r0 i0 w0 e0 t0 y9 b8 h8 k8 m8 l8 v8 s5 n2 q0 o0 g0
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Old May 6, 17, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by ibbitsc View Post
Can someone advise on the current load of:

BA31 LHR to HK departing on Fri 12 May
BA28 Hk to LHR departing on Thu 18 May
expert flyer - UK POS

BA31 LHR to HK departing on Fri 12 May

BA 31 0 LHR 12/05/17 18:40 HKG 13/05/17 13:40
388
Daily
F8 A7 J9 C6 D3 R0 I0 W9 E5 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G9

BA28 Hk to LHR departing on Thu 18 May

BA 28 0 HKG 18/05/17 23:45 LHR 19/05/17 5:35
777
Daily
F1 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y8 B9 H8 K4 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old May 6, 17, 10:00 am
  #5074  
 
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Hi,

Could someone please check BA286 S FO - LHR 19:30 departure on the 16th May. Thanks in advance!
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Old May 6, 17, 2:37 pm
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HI there,

I'm on the BA275 LAS tomorrow and have a suspicion its heavily overbooked.BA weren't selling seats 2 days ago when I got my seat. Im down the back and was interested in an AUP or Avios upgrade.

Can anyone shed any light please?

Thanks
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Old May 6, 17, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by danboy767 View Post
HI there,

I'm on the BA275 LAS tomorrow and have a suspicion its heavily overbooked.BA weren't selling seats 2 days ago when I got my seat. Im down the back and was interested in an AUP or Avios upgrade.

Can anyone shed any light please?

Thanks
It looks to be full!

275 0 LHR
05/07/17 4:40 PM LAS
05/07/17 7:20 PM 744
Daily
55% / 24m F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old May 6, 17, 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Rubecula View Post
It looks to be full!

275 0 LHR
05/07/17 4:40 PM LAS
05/07/17 7:20 PM 744
Daily
55% / 24m F0 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

anyone know now what BA typically do if it's overbooked? I don't need to be there tomorrow, just by 3pm Monday. If I offer is it ever heard of that a passenger is flown a different route with maybe an upgrade to business rather than a cash incentive?
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Old May 7, 17, 1:24 am
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Originally Posted by David173 View Post
Hi,

Could someone please check BA286 S FO - LHR 19:30 departure on the 16th May. Thanks in advance!
Welcome to FT, David173!

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BA 286 0 SFO 16/05/17 19:30 LHR 17/05/17 13:55
388
F7 A6 J9 C4 D3 R1 I0 W5 E3 T2 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old May 8, 17, 8:06 am
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Hi,

Can someone please check the following BA loads? Thanks much for your help.

BA2279, 13 May Sat, 10:20 departure, LGW to OAK
BA2279, 15 May Mon, 10:25 departure, LGW to OAK
BA2278, 20 May Sat, 15:05 departure, OAK to LGW
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Old May 8, 17, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by miketone594 View Post
hi,

can someone please check the following ba loads? Thanks much for your help.

Ba2279, 13 may sat, 10:20 departure, lgw to oak
ba2279, 15 may mon, 10:25 departure, lgw to oak
ba2278, 20 may sat, 15:05 departure, oak to lgw
sa 13may lon/sfo
2 lgw oak 1020 1315 ba2279 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e5 tc y9 b9 h9c
k9 m9 l9 v4 sc nc qc oc g9

mon 15may17 london area /oakland
1 lgw oak 1025 1320 ba2279 j9 c9 d9 r9 ic w9 e9 t9 y9 b9 h9
k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 oc g9

sat 20may17 oakland /london area
1 oak lgw 1505#0925 ba2278 j9 c9 d9 r9 i9 w9 e9 t9 y9 b9 h9
k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9

It was all upper case when copying - why does it all go to lower case when pasting?!?
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Old May 8, 17, 2:39 pm
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Good evening,

Could someone please check ba154 cai to lhr on Friday 12th may please and ba155 lhr to cai on 16th may please?

Thanks so mych, love the forum!

anyone any ideas? Thanks!

Last edited by Davehereford; May 9, 17 at 5:11 am
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Old May 8, 17, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Davehereford View Post
Good evening,

Could someone please check ba154 cai to lhr on Friday 12th may please and ba155 lhr to cai on 16th may please?

Thanks so mych, love the forum!
oh and also if the aircraft is due to be a 788 or 789 thanks again!
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Old May 8, 17, 11:44 pm
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BA790

Would anybody mind checking the loads for the 790 to GOT this Friday 12th?

Thanks
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Old May 9, 17, 12:16 am
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Please could someone check the loads for:
BA 738. LHR to GVA 16/3/18
BA 797. GVA to LHR 19/3/18

Thanks
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Old May 9, 17, 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by barneyb View Post
Please could someone check the loads for:
BA 738. LHR to GVA 16/3/18
BA 797. GVA to LHR 19/3/18

Thanks
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