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Old Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
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If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:

        * Please update wiki if you know of any others.
        ** Origin of data concealed


        What do the codes mean?
        Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

        This means:
        There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
        There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
        There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
        The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

        There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
        1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

        2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.

        What does the "C" mean?
        Closed to waitlisting.
        In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

        The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.

        Differences for non-BA airlines
        • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
        • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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        Old Mar 13, 2017, 3:25 pm
          #4651  
        formerly southsidesilver
         
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        BA2794 Thursday 16th March

        J9 C6 D2 R9 I9 Y9 B9 LGWVLC 900A 1220P
        H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 N9 Q9 O6 S9 G7

        BA2795 Sunday 19th March

        BA 2795 J5 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y7 B4 VLCLGW 1225P 200P
        H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 Q0 O0 S0 G0
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        Old Mar 13, 2017, 3:27 pm
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        So pretty full on the way back! Not much chance of an avios seat opening up
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        Old Mar 13, 2017, 3:33 pm
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        Originally Posted by mdj1
        So pretty full on the way back! Not much chance of an avios seat opening up
        That's a reasonable conclusion but still worth checking on a daily basis now that we're within a week of departure. I don't think you specified which cabin you're looking for?
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        Old Mar 13, 2017, 3:37 pm
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        Either or not fussed.
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        Old Mar 13, 2017, 5:22 pm
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        Hi, could someone kindly check BA169 LHR-PVG on 17/03/2017 for me please? Thanks
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        Old Mar 13, 2017, 5:29 pm
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        Originally Posted by EDIer
        Hi, could someone kindly check BA169 LHR-PVG on 17/03/2017 for me please? Thanks
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing LHR on 03/17/17 12:00 AM for PVG
        Flying BA
        Point of Sale: UK
        
        
        Frequency
        Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
        0 Connections
        BA 169 0 LHR PVG 777 Su,M,T,Th,F,Sa F5 A5 J8 C4 D2 R1 I1 W3 E2 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q6 O0 G0
        03/17/17 2:10 PM 03/18/17 9:25 AM 71% / 20m
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        Old Mar 14, 2017, 2:17 am
          #4657  
        09R
         
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        Could someone kindly check PER - SIN on QF 24 April.

        Thanks
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        Old Mar 14, 2017, 2:22 am
          #4658  
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        Originally Posted by annonymousposter
        Could someone kindly check PER - SIN on QF 24 April.

        Thanks
        Results from ExpertFlyer.com
        Code:
        Flight Availability Search
        Departing PER on 04/24/17 12:00 AM for SIN
        Flying QF  
        
        
                                                                             Frequency
        Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
        0 Connections
        QF 71         0      PER                SIN                73H       Unavailable     J2 C0 D0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 N6 G0 X9 
                             04/24/17 11:50 AM  04/24/17 5:20 PM             91% / 15m
        =============

        Interesting: There are new POS available:

        - Switzerland
        - Italy
        - France
        - Brazil
        - UAE
        florens is online now  
        Old Mar 14, 2017, 3:31 am
          #4659  
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        Could someone please check the load on BA257 (LHR-DEL) on 21/03/2017 in Club World and First. Have seats in Club World.
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        Old Mar 14, 2017, 3:55 am
          #4660  
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        Originally Posted by deboyzoned
        Could someone please check the load on BA257 (LHR-DEL) on 21/03/2017 in Club World and First. Have seats in Club World.
        Not looking good for an upgrade:

        F1 A1 J9 C5 D4 R3 I0 W9 E6 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q5 O1 G0

        with just 2 unallocated seats in F.
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        Old Mar 14, 2017, 4:04 am
          #4661  
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        Thanks c-w-s.

        Reading this ...

        PE is unlikely to be upgraded to as there is availability in W and E

        CW also has availaibilty ... so unlikely to be upgraded

        Out of curiosity ... i tried to upgrade with cash on LHR-DEL on BA App from CW to F .... showed no availability.
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        Old Mar 14, 2017, 7:15 pm
          #4662  
         
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        Originally Posted by MarkedMan
        f0 a0 j9 c9 d9 r9 i3 w9 e9 t9 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q0 o0 g0

        Thank you
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        Old Mar 15, 2017, 2:12 pm
          #4663  
         
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        Anyone out there kind enough to check a couple of loads please?

        Interested in BA009/22 Mar LHR-BKK and
        BA36/30 Mar MAA-LHR
        Thanks you in advance x
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        Old Mar 15, 2017, 3:34 pm
          #4664  
         
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        Originally Posted by no longer atc
        Interested in BA009/22 Mar LHR-BKK and
        BA36/30 Mar MAA-LHR
        Thanks you in advance x
        BA9 showing:

        J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

        BA36:

        J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E6 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S5 N1 Q0 O0 G0
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        Old Mar 15, 2017, 6:02 pm
          #4665  
         
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        Many thanks golfmad

        Does anyone know how I can find out which specific 777 variation (200 or 300, 14F or 12F, Thales IFE?) this flight will be please?

        Thanks
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