Last edit by: NWIFlyer
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check seat availability and flight loads
#3871
Join Date: May 2012
Location: AMS
Programs: Flying Blue Gold
Posts: 2
Could someone check:
KL605 Oct 23
AF83 Oct 29
Much appreciated!
KL605 Oct 23
AF83 Oct 29
Much appreciated!
#3873
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, TK Elite, HHonors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 7,683
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search Departing AMS on 10/23/16 12:00 AM for SFO Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections KL 605 0 AMS SFO 744 Daily J0 C0 D0 I0 Z0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 K9 H9 L9 Q9 T9 E0 N9 R9 V9 G0 10/23/16 9:50 AM 10/23/16 11:35 AM 57% / 30m
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Flight Availability Search Departing SFO on 10/29/16 12:00 AM for CDG Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections AF 83 0 SFO CDG 388 Daily P2 F0 J9 C9 D9 I9 Z9 W9 S0 A0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 K9 H9 L0 Q0 T2 E0 N0 R0 V0 G0 10/29/16 4:00 PM 10/30/16 10:35 AM 77% / 23m
#3874
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 107
Can someone please check
15 December 2016 CX807 ORD HKG
Thanks!
15 December 2016 CX807 ORD HKG
Thanks!
#3875
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 70
This is one of lifes imponderables, it's impossible to predict. However I would not wait for any bookings Xmas, vast experience tells me Y class fares will not drop - the flight will be 100% full so no need to further discount (if looking at Business it might be different).
However - I see on the return now 3 V class seats have been released - which means the price should be a little lower for 3 seats combined with your outbound. If it was me, i'd book as I doubt you'll get any W class seats opening up (which would make it cheaper still).
FRI 23DEC16 NEWARK /LONDON AREA
1 EWR LHR 2315#1105
AI 172 C4 D4 J4 Z2 Y9 B9 M9 H9 K8 Q5 V3 WC GC LC UC TC SC EC NC
However - I see on the return now 3 V class seats have been released - which means the price should be a little lower for 3 seats combined with your outbound. If it was me, i'd book as I doubt you'll get any W class seats opening up (which would make it cheaper still).
FRI 23DEC16 NEWARK /LONDON AREA
1 EWR LHR 2315#1105
AI 172 C4 D4 J4 Z2 Y9 B9 M9 H9 K8 Q5 V3 WC GC LC UC TC SC EC NC
#3876
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, TK Elite, HHonors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 7,683
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search Departing ORD on 12/15/16 12:00 AM for HKG Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections CX 807 0 ORD HKG 77W Daily F5 A5 J9 C9 D9 I9 W9 R9 E9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 12/15/16 2:05 PM 12/16/16 7:55 PM 63% / 40m
#3877
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: BA Gold, several other less interesting cards...
Posts: 3,711
Please forgive me for asking another damn fool question- Will the availability (F or A) be available immediately or does it take time?
#3878
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges and Environmentally Friendly Travel
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 22,210
Could a kind soul check the loads for BA28 and BA32 on 28 October for me please. I am currently waitlisted on both (WT+) but may push for a routing via PVG if these flights are filled with zeros.
Thanks
Thanks
#3879
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: TPA/ABZ
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,243
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search Departing HKG on 10/28/16 12:00 AM for LHR Flying BA Point of Sale: UK Frequency Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes 0 Connections BA 32 0 HKG LHR 388 Unavailable F0 A0 J9 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q1 OC G9 10/28/16 11:05 PM 10/29/16 4:50 AM 84% / 16m 0 Connections BA 28 0 HKG LHR 777 Unavailable F0 A0 J1 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N8 Q1 OC G9 10/28/16 11:45 PM 10/29/16 5:35 AM 92% / 13m
#3880
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, A3 Gold, M&M SEN, FlyingBlue Gold, AS MVP Gold, Hilton Diamond, IHG Spire Amb
Posts: 902
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Point of Sale: UK
BA 32 F0 A0 J9 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q1 OC G9
BA 28 F0 A0 J1 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N8 Q1 OC G9
#3881
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges and Environmentally Friendly Travel
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 22,210
Thanks golfmad and wmaciej for your kindness
#3882
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1
AF345
Hello,
Can any body helps with the AF345 on oct 24
Thank you
Can any body helps with the AF345 on oct 24
Thank you
#3883
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: OWE
Posts: 131
can someone please let me know the loads for:
CX846 (departs October 19)
HKG-JFK
Thanks in advance
CX846 (departs October 19)
HKG-JFK
Thanks in advance
#3884
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: YEG
Programs: UA 1K, AC SE, WJ Gold
Posts: 352
BA190 Nov 13
Can someone please provide seat load numbers for:
AUS-LHR
BA190
Nov. 13
TIA!!
AUS-LHR
BA190
Nov. 13
TIA!!
#3885
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: BA Gold, several other less interesting cards...
Posts: 3,711
The inventory took until the next day to update. F was full so the Avios ticket that I cancelled went into the F bucket instead of A.