Jan 1, 2014, 6:10 am
Last edit by: NWIFlyer
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check seat availability and flight loads
Sep 13, 2015, 8:47 pm
#1576
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: BRU
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 518
Can anyone do me a massive favour and check loads for the BA 282 on 20th September?
Thanks so much!
Thanks so much!
Sep 13, 2015, 9:03 pm
#1577
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Arizona
Programs: BA (GGL G4L), AA (Gold), HH (Diamond); Marriott (Gold)
Posts: 3,011
Sep 13, 2015, 10:08 pm
#1578
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: BRU
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 518
Thanks very much
Sep 14, 2015, 2:22 pm
#1581
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: YVR
Programs: Erstwhile Accidental AC E35K
Posts: 2,916
I'm looking for a bit of help, not being a regular BA flier. Looking at YVR-LHR for next April. I'm seeing reports that the extra cost of WT+ is not worth the $, especially if you can get exit row seats in WT. Thoughts on this?
Questions:
1. What is the seat recline in WT vs WT+?
2. Is WT+ okay for the extra $, or should I just go for WT and book the exit row seats?
3. How do I find out if there are exit row seats open before I book and pay? I haven't been able to see a seat map of available seats, unlike some other airlines.
4. Do I understand correctly that anyone can book a seat for a fee at the time of booking?
5. If I book WT using Avios can I still book exit row seats in advance for a fee?
Thanks for the help.
Questions:
1. What is the seat recline in WT vs WT+?
2. Is WT+ okay for the extra $, or should I just go for WT and book the exit row seats?
3. How do I find out if there are exit row seats open before I book and pay? I haven't been able to see a seat map of available seats, unlike some other airlines.
4. Do I understand correctly that anyone can book a seat for a fee at the time of booking?
5. If I book WT using Avios can I still book exit row seats in advance for a fee?
Thanks for the help.
Sep 14, 2015, 2:35 pm
#1582
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
I'm looking for a bit of help, not being a regular BA flier. Looking at YVR-LHR for next April. I'm seeing reports that the extra cost of WT+ is not worth the $, especially if you can get exit row seats in WT. Thoughts on this?
Questions:
1. What is the seat recline in WT vs WT+?
2. Is WT+ okay for the extra $, or should I just go for WT and book the exit row seats?
3. How do I find out if there are exit row seats open before I book and pay? I haven't been able to see a seat map of available seats, unlike some other airlines.
4. Do I understand correctly that anyone can book a seat for a fee at the time of booking?
5. If I book WT using Avios can I still book exit row seats in advance for a fee?
Thanks for the help.
Questions:
1. What is the seat recline in WT vs WT+?
2. Is WT+ okay for the extra $, or should I just go for WT and book the exit row seats?
3. How do I find out if there are exit row seats open before I book and pay? I haven't been able to see a seat map of available seats, unlike some other airlines.
4. Do I understand correctly that anyone can book a seat for a fee at the time of booking?
5. If I book WT using Avios can I still book exit row seats in advance for a fee?
Thanks for the help.
1. I don't know the answer here - I've done some googling - but I don't know that anyone has the actual number. The extra pitch does let it recline further.
2. It really rather depends on the price difference. I find I sleep better in WTP than WT. Exit rows in WT tend to have toilets next to them - so WTP is generally more comfortable. On a night flight - the improved recline would be important to me. But, if it's my own cash, I'm not going to pay more than a few hundred premium.
3. As you go through a dummy cash booking, after the personal details, but before the payment page - you can request to see the seat maps.
4. Yes
5. I believe exit rows are restricted to golds. You can book the exit row from 14 days out according to http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...icy-guide.html
Sep 14, 2015, 8:56 pm
#1583
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: YVR
Programs: Erstwhile Accidental AC E35K
Posts: 2,916
This is probably better in it's own thread - but I'll put my answers here:
1. I don't know the answer here - I've done some googling - but I don't know that anyone has the actual number. The extra pitch does let it recline further.
2. It really rather depends on the price difference. I find I sleep better in WTP than WT. Exit rows in WT tend to have toilets next to them - so WTP is generally more comfortable. On a night flight - the improved recline would be important to me. But, if it's my own cash, I'm not going to pay more than a few hundred premium.
3. As you go through a dummy cash booking, after the personal details, but before the payment page - you can request to see the seat maps.
4. Yes
5. I believe exit rows are restricted to golds. You can book the exit row from 14 days out according to http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...icy-guide.html
1. I don't know the answer here - I've done some googling - but I don't know that anyone has the actual number. The extra pitch does let it recline further.
2. It really rather depends on the price difference. I find I sleep better in WTP than WT. Exit rows in WT tend to have toilets next to them - so WTP is generally more comfortable. On a night flight - the improved recline would be important to me. But, if it's my own cash, I'm not going to pay more than a few hundred premium.
3. As you go through a dummy cash booking, after the personal details, but before the payment page - you can request to see the seat maps.
4. Yes
5. I believe exit rows are restricted to golds. You can book the exit row from 14 days out according to http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...icy-guide.html
Sep 14, 2015, 10:17 pm
#1584
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 4
Would someone kindly help me check the following flights from HKG to LHR on 24 Sep 2015?
BA026
BA028
BA026
BA028
Sep 16, 2015, 8:13 am
#1585
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 87
Hello, could someone please check the following for me please?
BA0181 (LHR-JFK) 26/09
BA0182 (JFK - LHR) 29/09
Thanks
JF
BA0181 (LHR-JFK) 26/09
BA0182 (JFK - LHR) 29/09
Thanks
JF
Sep 17, 2015, 12:20 am
#1586
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 141
Hi all,
I would like to know the flight loads for the following flights:
IB3720 01/10/2015
IB3721 04/10/2015
Hopefully someone could confirm me these.
Thank you in advance!
I would like to know the flight loads for the following flights:
IB3720 01/10/2015
IB3721 04/10/2015
Hopefully someone could confirm me these.
Thank you in advance!
Sep 17, 2015, 2:29 am
#1587
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,999
HKG LHR 2305#0445 BA 26 F0 A0 J0 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y1
B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
HKG LHR 2345#0535 BA 28 F0 A0 J0 C0 DC RC IC W0 EC TC Y0
B0 H0 K0 M0 LC VC SC NC QC OC G0
Sep 17, 2015, 2:32 am
#1588
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,999
SAT 26SEP15 LONDON AREA /NEW YORK CIT
LHR JFK 1900 2200 BA 181 F9 A9 J9 C7 D7 R3 IC W9 E9 T5 Y9
B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N5 QC O9 G9
TUE 29SEP15 NEW YORK CIT/LONDON AREA
5 JFK LHR 2255#1100 BA 182 F5 A5 J9 C6 D2 RC IC W9 E9 T6 Y9
B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N3 QC O9 G9
Sep 17, 2015, 2:35 am
#1589
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
Posts: 2,999