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New member sign ups

British Airways American Express Premium Plus Card:
Collect 25,000 bonus Avios when you spend £3,000 within the first three months of card membership.

British Airways American Express Credit Card:
Collect 9,000 bonus Avios when you spend £1,000 within the first three months of card membership.

Referrals

If you are already a BA American Express card holder (either BA card) and introduce a friend to the BA American Express card, you'll receive a 4,000 Avios bonus once your friend's application is approved.

If you are already a BA American Express card holder (either BA card) and introduce a friend to the Premium Plus card, you'll receive a 9,000 Avios bonus once your friend's application is approved.

If your friend achieves the spend required for the welcome offer on either card they'll receive an additional 1,000 Avios. I.e. 26,000 or 10,000 total bonus Avios for the Premium Plus and Credit Card respectively.
Small print:
You must refer your friend via the referral link provided above to be eligible for this offer.

You may recommend as many friends or family members as you wish but you can only receive a maximum of 45,000 Avios per calendar year for those approved for a Card.

You will receive 4,000 bonus Avios if your friend applies and is approved for the British Airways American Express Credit Card. Your friend will receive 4,000 bonus Avios after they have been approved and spent a minimum of £1,000 on goods and services purchased and charged to their Account within three months of Account opening.

You will receive 9,000 bonus Avios if your friend applies and is approved for the British Airways American Express Premium Plus Card. Your friend will receive 19,000 bonus Avios after they have been approved and spent a minimum of £3,000 on goods and services purchased and charged to their Account within three months of Account opening.

When completing the referral form, you must
(i) select the Card you hold from the list at Step 1 and
(ii) select a card to recommend from those listed at Step 2. If you do not follow this process, you and your friend will not be eligible for the bonus.

If your friend has already applied for any of the British Airways American Express Credit Cards without using this referral, you and your friend will not be eligible for the bonus Avios.

All introductory offers are subject to change, can be withdrawn at any time and are not available if your friend currently holds or has held any other British Airways American Express Credit Cards in the past six months.


Promotions

Retention offers

    Voucher eligible spend
    Pretty much everything counts towards the £10,000 (or £20,000) required to earn a 2-4-1 Companion Voucher, including the following which might be unexpected:
    • Foreign transaction fees

    A few things that don't:
    • Annual membership fee
    • Interest payments
    • Transactions under £1 (although you can earn the single Avios )

    The online total to the right of the card summary is pretty up to date, and far more useful for tracking spend than what the statements show.


    Insurance
    Both standard and Premium Plus cards include insurance benefits for goods and services purchased on the card. Full details here and here respectively. Summary of Premium Plus benefit are shown here, with standard card offering same cover unless alternate figure is shown in parentheses:
    • Purchase protection: £2,500
    • Refund protection: £300 (£200) per item
    • Flight delay / cancellation / overbooking / missed: £200 (£0)
    • Baggage delay (6+ hours): £750 (£0)
    • Baggage delay (48+ hours): £1,000 (£0), additional to 6 hours benefit
    • Accident: £250,000 (£75,000)
    • Hijack (24+ hours): £1,500
    • Hijack (72+ hours): £3,000, additional to the 24h benefit
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    Old Feb 3, 2015, 4:25 am
      #586  
     
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    Originally Posted by SteveF
    I still don't get that low valuation. With a 2-4-1 the cash outlay on a pair of CW returns to, say UVF, is £150 (Amex PP) + £1,000 (tax and surcharge). Surely that must make the "value" of the 100,000 Avios at least £1,000?
    As everyone always says, depends what your travel plans are and how much you'd pay if you didn't have any Avios. I will shortly be living between England and Australia. Even with a 2-4-1, it's not a lot cheaper using Avios than buying a business class ticket either with BA ex-Europe or someone with a better product than CW. I also factor into account that that (i.e. the 2-4-1) means flying with BA and tbh I'd rather fly with almost anyone else, my BA experiences having been on the whole negative (not least the hour I spent on the phone to Singapore this morning trying without success to get them to sort out their latest screw up). Avios can be quite valuable intra-Oz though to be fair.
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    Old Feb 3, 2015, 4:28 am
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    Should have added (it won't let me edit) the hassle factor of finding award tickets to suit and the latest changes make me value Avios even less than I did a week ago, though we'll see if the guaranteed club seat release makes a difference to the former.
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    Old Feb 3, 2015, 4:30 am
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    Originally Posted by louie-m
    And that's if you value Avios at 1p each..... you'd need to spend more to break even if you value them at less than 1p as I do.
    Yes, I did say that was assuming one values an Avios at 1p (which like you, I don't )

    Originally Posted by SteveF
    I still don't get that low valuation. With a 2-4-1 the cash outlay on a pair of CW returns to, say UVF, is £150 (Amex PP) + £1,000 (tax and surcharge). Surely that must make the "value" of the 100,000 Avios at least £1,000?
    The value of the 241 may be £1000 or more, but we are talking about the value of the additional 0.5 Av/£ that would be earned by keeping the paid over the free card, once the voucher is triggered.
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    Old Feb 3, 2015, 4:43 am
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    Originally Posted by :D!
    ... The value of the 241 may be £1000 or more, but we are talking about the value of the additional 0.5 Av/£ that would be earned by keeping the paid over the free card, once the voucher is triggered.
    With the change in Avios earning rates when travelling in economy or premium economy the additional Avios earned on the BAPP card may become more valuable.
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    Old Feb 3, 2015, 4:58 am
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    Originally Posted by :D!
    The value of the 241 may be £1000 or more, but we are talking about the value of the additional 0.5 Av/£ that would be earned by keeping the paid over the free card, once the voucher is triggered.
    If the annual fee is factored into the 2-4-1 redemption then there is no real cost to retaining the PP. OK, one could cancel it, get a pro rata refund on the fee and therefore make the 2-4-1 more valuable, but then you lose the 2-4-1 at £10K next year.
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    Old Feb 3, 2015, 5:30 am
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    Originally Posted by Tobias-UK
    With the change in Avios earning rates when travelling in economy or premium economy the additional Avios earned on the BAPP card may become more valuable.
    That's the way I'm seeing it [apart from the 'economy' bit ]. Our annual spend earns a lot of Avios from BA Tickets, BA Holidays bookings and Avis/BA rentals. The increased earning rate on that "BA Spend" with the BAPP card goes some way to compensate for our lower flight earnings [usually UuA from W or 2-4-1 redemption].

    Note: No Tesco, card-churning or other game-playing from this callsign. Just the same annual spend we would have had if we paid cash or debit card, but trying to maximise the Avios earned. I decided £150 p/a was worth it, for the earning rate and the 2-year 2-4-1.
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    Old Feb 3, 2015, 6:37 am
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    Quick question
    I am sat on a couple of 2-4-1s that don't expire until end 2016 - have the Premium card. I'm aware if I cancel my card I lose the 2-4-1s, what about if i downgrade to the free card?

    Many thanks.
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    Old Feb 3, 2015, 7:44 am
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    Originally Posted by plastikman
    Quick question
    I am sat on a couple of 2-4-1s that don't expire until end 2016 - have the Premium card. I'm aware if I cancel my card I lose the 2-4-1s, what about if i downgrade to the free card?
    You keep them. With the same expiration date.

    You don't lose them even if you decide to redeem them and then cancel your redemption, as they'll be re-issued to you with their original expiration date.
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    Old Feb 5, 2015, 12:30 am
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    so, having spent circa £14K on the the blue card I have upgraded it to a black one and from reading the posts on here this should have triggered my 2-4-1, according to my american express account front page it has but when I click through to the transactions section where it shows how many Avios for each transaction it still stays I have to spend £6K by the 14th February. No 2-4-1 voucher in my BA account either.

    Has anyone else had a similar problem ? did the 2-4-1 trigger automatically when you upgraded or did you need to to something ? Many thanks

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    Old Feb 5, 2015, 2:50 am
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    Originally Posted by janed9388
    so, having spent circa £14K on the the blue card I have upgraded it to a black one and from reading the posts on here this should have triggered my 2-4-1, according to my american express account front page it has but when I click through to the transactions section where it shows how many Avios for each transaction it still stays I have to spend £6K by the 14th February. No 2-4-1 voucher in my BA account either.

    Has anyone else had a similar problem ? did the 2-4-1 trigger automatically when you upgraded or did you need to to something ? Many thanks
    I was in your situation ... IIRC I ended up making a couple of phone calls [BA or Amex?? Can't remember]. It ended up taking 2 months for the voucher to show on ba.com ... and yet others have found it a seamless and automatic process.

    You don't give an indication of the timescale since you upgraded, but I could suggest a phone call to Amex might be an appropriate starting point.
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    Old Feb 5, 2015, 2:59 am
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    Thanks for that T8191, It's a couple of weeks since the card upgraded but I hadn't actually used it until Monday this week so I was waiting for those spends to post to see if it "pushed" the voucher through somehow.
    If it were my card I would have been on the phone already but since it's my husbands and like most men it seems he doesn't like phones much I thought I'd try the collective wisdom of Flyer talk first ! will start nagging him to call once the spending this week shows up if it doesn't happen.
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    Old Feb 6, 2015, 8:45 am
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    Yay. My partner got his Premium Plus card today, and my referral avios have already been logged. Now we just need to spend £3k to get his bonus.

    The bonus offer expires on Feb 11th - does anyone else need a referral?
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    Old Feb 6, 2015, 8:57 am
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    Originally Posted by janed9388
    so, having spent circa £14K on the the blue card I have upgraded it to a black one and from reading the posts on here this should have triggered my 2-4-1, according to my american express account front page it has but when I click through to the transactions section where it shows how many Avios for each transaction it still stays I have to spend £6K by the 14th February. No 2-4-1 voucher in my BA account either.

    Has anyone else had a similar problem ? did the 2-4-1 trigger automatically when you upgraded or did you need to to something ? Many thanks
    For anyone else having similar issues, you just need to be patient, as soon as my first spend appeared to show the avios collected it triggered the 2-4-1, now all I need is for it to hit my BA account but I know that takes a few days so don't need to worry
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    Old Feb 9, 2015, 6:51 am
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    Sorry if this is a bit OT but I couldn't find any information anywhere.

    I'm new to charge cards and have recently got Amex Gold (had BA card for some time). I'm off on holiday next month and I’m unsure of what the charges would be on my account for using it abroad. Until now I get cash and occasionally pay for something on my debit card, but in general try to avoid it. Am I a bit of a dinosaur??

    Should I get cash from the Thomas Exchange in London (as usual for me), selling USD at 1.511? If so, should I do this on my bank debit card or my Amex Gold? If the latter, will I earn points, but more crucially, will I incur any kind of cash advance type charges that I won’t get from my debit card?

    If I decide to use the card for the majority of purchases instead of cash, I’m assuming there’s a 3% charge made on all transactions and nothing else?

    If I have this right, it means that 100 USD would cost me £66.18 at Thomas Exchange, but £67.32 on my card, (using today’s exchange rate of 1.53) and adding 3%)? There doesn’t seem to be much in that, so if I can get points using the Amex, that seems the best option.

    Or have I missed something??

    Apologies for being a true novice here!
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    Old Feb 9, 2015, 6:51 am
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    Originally Posted by nux
    Once you've earned the companion voucher the only difference in earning is 0.5 avios on regular spend (ignoring BA spend bonus). The cost is £150/365 days = 41p/day, so at £82 spend per day the extra 0.5 avios per £ earned on a BAPP over the normal BA Amex is worth 41p which balances the annual fee.
    The whole point of the BAPP Amex is getting the companion voucher not the 0.5 extra in Avios though so your calculation on breaking even is wrong. You need to be comparing it's worth to the cost of a companion flight, as an example to MIA say in F it's 150k avios.
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