Jan 1, 2014, 5:11 am
Last edit by: Prospero
Welcome to the thread—but please read this bit first
New to the thread? Welcome!
If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.
In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
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This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
North & Central America
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
£0.78/TP | £713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.78/TP | £718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
£0.96/TP | £1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
£1.01/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£1.02/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£0.81/TP | £504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
£0.89/TP | £823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.81/TP | £561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.51/TP | £1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015
£1.08/TP | £335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.93/TP | £288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.35/TP | £323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
£1.56/TP | £970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
£1.44/TP | £534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)
£1.05/TP | £566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£1.20/TP | £505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA
£1.38/TP | £581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.44/TP | £776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.57/TP | £282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.27/TP | £230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.14/TP | £205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
£1.30/TP | £353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US
£0.97/TP | £640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
£1.07/TP | £640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£0.86/TP until 6 March, £0.98/TP after | £764 (£668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
£1.31/TP | £784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US
£0.98/TP | £215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.05/TP | £423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA
£1.51/TP | £815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.76/TP | £740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.04/TP | £1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US
Europe
£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
£1.62/TP | £259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
£1.66/TP | £398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
£1.98/TP | £139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA
£2.14/TP | £513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA
£2.35/TP | £376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
£1.69/TP | £271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by £100, otherwise £2.31/TP | BA
£2.26/TP | £181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.55/TP | £248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
£2.49/TP | £199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.69/TP | £270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
£2.60/TP | £104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at £2.45 | BA
Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£1.59/TP | £891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)
£1.06/TP | £594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
£1.13/TP | £400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
£1.25/TP | £452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
£1.27/TP | £457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.27/TP | £459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.32/TP | £474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.97/TP | £315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX
£1.39/TP | £471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.41/TP | £476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.49/TP | £504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£2.12/TP | £309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.81/TP | £650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH
£1.85/TP | £740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR
£1.22/TP | £442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.31/TP | £736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)
£0.69/TP | £259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£0.73/TP | £265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.17/TP | £421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.62/TP | £584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH
£1.65/TP | £914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH
£1.59/TP | £255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ
South America
Africa
Europe<->North & South America
£0.62/TP | £778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY
£0.82/TP | £853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
£0.74/TP | £853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US
£1.29/TP | £1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
£1.56/TP | £1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
£1.56/TP | £1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014
£1.88/TP | £1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)
£1.21/TP | £1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
£1.86/TP | £1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA
£1.51/TP | £1817 | 1200TPs | BRU-LHR-BOS-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | JimEddie | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.78/TP | £1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.85/TP | £500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US
£1.33/TP | £1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US
£1.43/TP | £1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.18/TP | £1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.61/TP | £2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA
£2.25/TP | £225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA
Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£2.19/TP | £1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
£2.25/TP | £1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
£2.73/TP | £1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Africa<->Rest of the World
£2.19/TP | £1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
£1.67/TP | £667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR
£2.92/TP | £1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
Notes
AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL
US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF
oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410
BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411
To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411
All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.
BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).
LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).
LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.
MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.
LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
New to the thread? Welcome!
If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.- from DUB, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - €1140, LAX - €1395, HNL - €1395, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from CPH, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £804, LAX - £1149, HNL - £1220, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from BRU, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £1344, LAX - £1367, HNL - £1465, needs to be booked by 15 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.
In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
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This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
North & Central America
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
£0.78/TP | £713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.78/TP | £718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
£0.96/TP | £1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
£1.01/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£1.02/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£0.81/TP | £504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
£0.89/TP | £823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.81/TP | £561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.51/TP | £1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015
£1.08/TP | £335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.93/TP | £288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.35/TP | £323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
£1.56/TP | £970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
£1.44/TP | £534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)
£1.05/TP | £566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£1.20/TP | £505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA
£1.38/TP | £581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.44/TP | £776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.57/TP | £282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.27/TP | £230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.14/TP | £205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
£1.30/TP | £353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US
£0.97/TP | £640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
£1.07/TP | £640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£0.86/TP until 6 March, £0.98/TP after | £764 (£668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
£1.31/TP | £784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US
£0.98/TP | £215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.05/TP | £423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA
£1.51/TP | £815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.76/TP | £740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.04/TP | £1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US
Europe
£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
£1.62/TP | £259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
£1.66/TP | £398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
£1.98/TP | £139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA
£2.14/TP | £513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA
£2.35/TP | £376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
£1.69/TP | £271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by £100, otherwise £2.31/TP | BA
£2.26/TP | £181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.55/TP | £248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
£2.49/TP | £199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.69/TP | £270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
£2.60/TP | £104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at £2.45 | BA
Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£1.59/TP | £891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)
£1.06/TP | £594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
£1.13/TP | £400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
£1.25/TP | £452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
£1.27/TP | £457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.27/TP | £459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.32/TP | £474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.97/TP | £315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX
£1.39/TP | £471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.41/TP | £476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.49/TP | £504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£2.12/TP | £309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.81/TP | £650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH
£1.85/TP | £740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR
£1.22/TP | £442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.31/TP | £736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)
£0.69/TP | £259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£0.73/TP | £265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.17/TP | £421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.62/TP | £584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH
£1.65/TP | £914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH
£1.59/TP | £255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ
South America
Africa
Europe<->North & South America
£0.62/TP | £778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY
£0.82/TP | £853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
£0.74/TP | £853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US
£1.29/TP | £1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
£1.56/TP | £1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
£1.56/TP | £1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014
£1.88/TP | £1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)
£1.21/TP | £1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
£1.86/TP | £1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA
£1.78/TP | £1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.85/TP | £500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US
£1.33/TP | £1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US
£1.43/TP | £1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.18/TP | £1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA
£2.61/TP | £2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA
£2.25/TP | £225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA
Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£2.19/TP | £1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
£2.25/TP | £1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
£2.73/TP | £1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Africa<->Rest of the World
£2.19/TP | £1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
£1.67/TP | £667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR
£2.92/TP | £1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
- BA issued tickets (can include other carriers) ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with only BA flights ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with other carriers
- Tickets issued on non-BA stock
Notes
- The ITA Matrix tool cannot be used to book tickets.
- Some TP runs can be booked online at aa.com. Be sure to use the Sort by schedule option in order to locate the exact flights you found on the ITA Matrix tool.
- A guide to using the ITA Matrix tool can be found here.
AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL
US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF
oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410
BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411
To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411
All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.
BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).
LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).
LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.
MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.
LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
BA Tier Point runs | 2014 master thread
Oct 30, 2014, 5:04 am
#5266
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I'm not going to quibble on semantics, honest
. But as BAEC sees a BA-designated cabin as business-class but has to reward* travel in the very same cabin as first when designated as/marketed by AA, that seems to me pretty much inconsistent and irregular (to avoid the A-word).
I'm not convinced that time or tradition is a factor. Once an aberrant convention becomes inconvenient, it gets brought into line. That's what happened to the Gulf Shuttle.
Business-class TATL fed into first-class within the US because AA offered only two-class services, Y and F. The current TP situation is an awkward legacy of that.
* I've no idea who does the rewarding for an AA sector on a BA ticket. Can anyone throw some light ?
Oct 30, 2014, 5:15 am
#5267
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: UK/ UAE
Programs: BAEC Gold, EK Gold, FB Gold, CX Gold. Amex Plat et al
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CX, AY, and BA all use Amadeus I believe so your PNR is usuable on all three websites. AA operates on Sabre hence if you have some AA and some CX/AY/BA flights you get an AA PNR and a CX/AY/BA PNR. If your booking is wholly AA flight you just get an AA PNR and you don't get any Amadeus PNR so you can't view your booking on the CX/AY/BA websites.
TPs should be fairly easy to calculate anyway. For Avios just use the BA calculator.
TPs should be fairly easy to calculate anyway. For Avios just use the BA calculator.
Oct 30, 2014, 5:24 am
#5268
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Location: London and Zurich
Programs: AA, BA, Mucci: Sir Roger des Directions Routières, PCR
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May I ask the knowledgeable if there is an easy way to check pricing and availability for intermediate stops on an ex-EU?
Let me explain. I understand the principles. I used them regularly in the past from VIE on business trips to the US and South Africa - and the final leg in those days had generous timing, helping me to start the net l/h. I've become reasonably cute with ITA and aa.com.
If I check a multistop from DUB to LAX via LCY, JFK and PHX using ITA, I get a useful price of £1,182 in J with US domestics in F. However, that results in flying DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAX all in one day arriving in LA close to midnight, or 08:00 BST next day.
Trial and error at aa.com produces an April itinerary with overnight stops in LON, JFK, JFK and LON (and one LAX-PHX-JFK on the same flight number) for £1,432 which may be as good as it gets. I chose LCY-JFK and v.v. after checking when lower prices were available.
My wife's significant birthday and a significant wedding anniversary are coming up, and I'd like to 'grant' her Gold status. That itinerary would do it. But is there that intermediate stop availability site that would help in planning?
I'd also like to get overnight stays in HEL of which we have fond memories, but I'm thinking we're getting close to golden eggs mortality.
Sorry for the long post explaining our situation, and thanks for any hints.
Let me explain. I understand the principles. I used them regularly in the past from VIE on business trips to the US and South Africa - and the final leg in those days had generous timing, helping me to start the net l/h. I've become reasonably cute with ITA and aa.com.
If I check a multistop from DUB to LAX via LCY, JFK and PHX using ITA, I get a useful price of £1,182 in J with US domestics in F. However, that results in flying DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAX all in one day arriving in LA close to midnight, or 08:00 BST next day.
Trial and error at aa.com produces an April itinerary with overnight stops in LON, JFK, JFK and LON (and one LAX-PHX-JFK on the same flight number) for £1,432 which may be as good as it gets. I chose LCY-JFK and v.v. after checking when lower prices were available.
My wife's significant birthday and a significant wedding anniversary are coming up, and I'd like to 'grant' her Gold status.
That itinerary would do it. But is there that intermediate stop availability site that would help in planning?I'd also like to get overnight stays in HEL of which we have fond memories, but I'm thinking we're getting close to golden eggs mortality.
Sorry for the long post explaining our situation, and thanks for any hints.
Oct 30, 2014, 5:42 am
#5269
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Posts: 17,007
If I check a multistop from DUB to LAX via LCY, JFK and PHX using ITA, I get a useful price of £1,182 in J with US domestics in F. However, that results in flying DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAX all in one day arriving in LA close to midnight, or 08:00 BST next day.
Trial and error at aa.com produces an April itinerary with overnight stops in LON, JFK, JFK and LON (and one LAX-PHX-JFK on the same flight number) for £1,432 which may be as good as it gets. I chose LCY-JFK and v.v. after checking when lower prices were available.
My wife's significant birthday and a significant wedding anniversary are coming up, and I'd like to 'grant' her Gold status. That itinerary would do it. But is there that intermediate stop availability site that would help in planning?
I'd also like to get overnight stays in HEL of which we have fond memories, but I'm thinking we're getting close to golden eggs mortality.
Sorry for the long post explaining our situation, and thanks for any hints.
Trial and error at aa.com produces an April itinerary with overnight stops in LON, JFK, JFK and LON (and one LAX-PHX-JFK on the same flight number) for £1,432 which may be as good as it gets. I chose LCY-JFK and v.v. after checking when lower prices were available.
My wife's significant birthday and a significant wedding anniversary are coming up, and I'd like to 'grant' her Gold status.
That itinerary would do it. But is there that intermediate stop availability site that would help in planning?I'd also like to get overnight stays in HEL of which we have fond memories, but I'm thinking we're getting close to golden eggs mortality.
Sorry for the long post explaining our situation, and thanks for any hints.
You can use the calendar on ITA search to find the days when the weakest sectors are available, then the multicity tool to create an itinerary with some space (stops under 24 hours always permitted).
But as BAEC sees a BA-designated cabin as business-class but has to reward* travel in the very same cabin as first when designated as/marketed by AA, that seems to me pretty much inconsistent and irregular (to avoid the A-word).
I'm not convinced that time or tradition is a factor. Once an aberrant convention becomes inconvenient, it gets brought into line. That's what happened to the Gulf Shuttle.
Business-class TATL fed into first-class within the US because AA offered only two-class services, Y and F. The current TP situation is an awkward legacy of that.
* I've no idea who does the rewarding for an AA sector on a BA ticket. Can anyone throw some light ?
I'm not convinced that time or tradition is a factor. Once an aberrant convention becomes inconvenient, it gets brought into line. That's what happened to the Gulf Shuttle.
Business-class TATL fed into first-class within the US because AA offered only two-class services, Y and F. The current TP situation is an awkward legacy of that.
* I've no idea who does the rewarding for an AA sector on a BA ticket. Can anyone throw some light ?
BA also has an advantage in keeping the cabin as "First": they sell it for more Avios.
The cabin is sold as F. Introducing a special exemptions for certain geographies would muddy the waters rather than clean it up.
The sector is paid for by the marketing carrier, without reference to the stock or the operating carrier.
Last edited by Calchas; Oct 30, 2014 at 5:48 am
Oct 30, 2014, 5:51 am
#5270
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,964
DUB :: LCY JFK / alliance oneworld;minconnect 1000
to LAX, will most likely offer you an overnight stay in London and in JFK.
Oct 30, 2014, 6:16 am
#5271
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Programs: AA, BA, Mucci: Sir Roger des Directions Routières, PCR
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Calchas and angatol, thank you very much for useful advice.
You have simplified my search.
You have simplified my search.
Oct 30, 2014, 9:05 am
#5272
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: BA Gold, AA Lifetime Gold 1.8mm, IC Spire Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, SPG Gold et al
Posts: 4,350
QR have a 2-4-1 sale ending 31.10.14 so you need to be quick if you're interested.
Obviously 2 people need to travel but it brings the ex CAI fares in the wiki down a bit. I haven't searched extensively but CAI-DOH-KUL-PEN with the last leg on MH comes in at around £1,167 for 2 passengers (480 TP's each) which I think makes it £1.21/TP. Travel up to 31.3.15. Other destinations are available.
If you haven't been to Penang I can highly recommend a few days there.
Obviously 2 people need to travel but it brings the ex CAI fares in the wiki down a bit. I haven't searched extensively but CAI-DOH-KUL-PEN with the last leg on MH comes in at around £1,167 for 2 passengers (480 TP's each) which I think makes it £1.21/TP. Travel up to 31.3.15. Other destinations are available.
If you haven't been to Penang I can highly recommend a few days there.
Oct 30, 2014, 10:01 am
#5273
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 6,422
It looks like the 767 is back on the LAX-HNL flights, at least for November.
Oct 30, 2014, 10:31 am
#5274
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Cumbria
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 4,510
Hello - wondering if you could let me know what you think of this itinerary.
Dep 28/3, Ret 30/3 (from LAS)
DUB-LHR-JFK-LAS-JFK-LON-DUB
in J/I/A/A/I/J
For 40+140+210+210+140+40 = 780TP
Coming up on matrix at £1107 (£1.42tp)
Have been able to price it on AA.com and coming in at $1793.90 so it does exist!
Do you think this is a good option? Arrives into LAS at 19.20 on the Saturday and departing at 08.02 on the Monday. so gives one full day, and could probably get away with one night's accommodation in Vegas as will be able to head to the airport early. JFK to LAS is on a 738. Is this a good choice or should I perhaps be looking to fly from JFK into LAX or PHX (or similar) and adding in another connection? Will try to keep the cost down, but want the best journey possible, so what are the recommend aircraft for AA? From reading on here I need something that will book into F to get the full TP.
I also looked at the babybus but not possible on Saturday departures. On the return I is pricing up the same, however, when searching on AA.com it is booking in D rather than I and therefore looking at about $4000. Is there a reason for this?
Thanks is advance for your help!
Dep 28/3, Ret 30/3 (from LAS)
DUB-LHR-JFK-LAS-JFK-LON-DUB
in J/I/A/A/I/J
For 40+140+210+210+140+40 = 780TP
Coming up on matrix at £1107 (£1.42tp)
Have been able to price it on AA.com and coming in at $1793.90 so it does exist!
Do you think this is a good option? Arrives into LAS at 19.20 on the Saturday and departing at 08.02 on the Monday. so gives one full day, and could probably get away with one night's accommodation in Vegas as will be able to head to the airport early. JFK to LAS is on a 738. Is this a good choice or should I perhaps be looking to fly from JFK into LAX or PHX (or similar) and adding in another connection? Will try to keep the cost down, but want the best journey possible, so what are the recommend aircraft for AA? From reading on here I need something that will book into F to get the full TP.
I also looked at the babybus but not possible on Saturday departures. On the return I is pricing up the same, however, when searching on AA.com it is booking in D rather than I and therefore looking at about $4000. Is there a reason for this?
Thanks is advance for your help!
Oct 30, 2014, 11:53 am
#5275
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 333
Hello - wondering if you could let me know what you think of this itinerary.
Dep 28/3, Ret 30/3 (from LAS)
DUB-LHR-JFK-LAS-JFK-LON-DUB
in J/I/A/A/I/J
For 40+140+210+210+140+40 = 780TP
Coming up on matrix at £1107 (£1.42tp)
Have been able to price it on AA.com and coming in at $1793.90 so it does exist!
Do you think this is a good option? Arrives into LAS at 19.20 on the Saturday and departing at 08.02 on the Monday. so gives one full day, and could probably get away with one night's accommodation in Vegas as will be able to head to the airport early. JFK to LAS is on a 738. Is this a good choice or should I perhaps be looking to fly from JFK into LAX or PHX (or similar) and adding in another connection? Will try to keep the cost down, but want the best journey possible, so what are the recommend aircraft for AA? From reading on here I need something that will book into F to get the full TP.
I also looked at the babybus but not possible on Saturday departures. On the return I is pricing up the same, however, when searching on AA.com it is booking in D rather than I and therefore looking at about $4000. Is there a reason for this?
Thanks is advance for your help!
Dep 28/3, Ret 30/3 (from LAS)
DUB-LHR-JFK-LAS-JFK-LON-DUB
in J/I/A/A/I/J
For 40+140+210+210+140+40 = 780TP
Coming up on matrix at £1107 (£1.42tp)
Have been able to price it on AA.com and coming in at $1793.90 so it does exist!
Do you think this is a good option? Arrives into LAS at 19.20 on the Saturday and departing at 08.02 on the Monday. so gives one full day, and could probably get away with one night's accommodation in Vegas as will be able to head to the airport early. JFK to LAS is on a 738. Is this a good choice or should I perhaps be looking to fly from JFK into LAX or PHX (or similar) and adding in another connection? Will try to keep the cost down, but want the best journey possible, so what are the recommend aircraft for AA? From reading on here I need something that will book into F to get the full TP.
I also looked at the babybus but not possible on Saturday departures. On the return I is pricing up the same, however, when searching on AA.com it is booking in D rather than I and therefore looking at about $4000. Is there a reason for this?
Thanks is advance for your help!
. If you flip through the last few pages of this post, you'll see that this fare (known as I7SALE) has generated quite a bit of a booking spree. So yes, it's a good value .
Oct 30, 2014, 3:07 pm
#5276
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 674
Has the ex-DUB sale been cut short? Prices on matrix seem to have shot up
*edit* nevermind, didn't notice that the date restrictions have been enforced :/
*edit* nevermind, didn't notice that the date restrictions have been enforced :/
Oct 30, 2014, 5:20 pm
#5277
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: London
Programs: BA CCR/GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,483
Oct 30, 2014, 5:26 pm
#5278
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,945
Were you still looking to book in early July? The travel dates were restricted a few days ago so now early July isn't covered.
Btw, does this mean your request to travel has been approved by head office?
EDIT: exCPH should still be available from 1 July onwards next year, but is more expensive than exDUB.
PERMITTED
22NOV 14 THROUGH 29NOV 14 OR
19DEC 14 THROUGH 10JAN 15 OR
13FEB 15 THROUGH 21FEB 15 OR
27MAR 15 THROUGH 19APR 15 OR
22MAY 15 THROUGH 30MAY 15 OR
17JUL 15 THROUGH 05SEP 15 ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
22NOV 14 THROUGH 29NOV 14 OR
19DEC 14 THROUGH 10JAN 15 OR
13FEB 15 THROUGH 21FEB 15 OR
27MAR 15 THROUGH 19APR 15 OR
22MAY 15 THROUGH 30MAY 15 OR
17JUL 15 THROUGH 05SEP 15 ON THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
EDIT: exCPH should still be available from 1 July onwards next year, but is more expensive than exDUB.
Oct 30, 2014, 5:57 pm
#5279
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: London
Programs: BA CCR/GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,483
Were you still looking to book in early July? The travel dates were restricted a few days ago so now early July isn't covered.
Btw, does this mean your request to travel has been approved by head office?
EDIT: exCPH should still be available from 1 July onwards next year, but is more expensive than exDUB.
Btw, does this mean your request to travel has been approved by head office?
EDIT: exCPH should still be available from 1 July onwards next year, but is more expensive than exDUB.
. The sales person couldn't quite believe how cheap it was . "Head Office" (aka Mrs London Andy) did agree, on the basis that I went on a VW camper van trip with the family. I did check that the 24 hour cooling off period still applies just in case.....
Oct 30, 2014, 6:06 pm
#5280
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Glasgow / London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 3,457
As posted on the Sale thread by Dutch, there are some great deals to South Africa at the moment, around the £1,340 mark. The most interesting thing is that it allows unlimited stopovers, including two free. I haven't played around with it yet, but I'm sure it's possible to come up with something interesting.
Fare basis is INCEURS. See below for fare rules. Key facts are -
Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
Stopover restrictions
ORIGINATING EUROPE -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT EUR 75.00 EACH.
Transfer restrictions
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 15JUN 15.
Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 26NOV 14.
Fare basis is INCEURS. See below for fare rules. Key facts are -
Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
Stopover restrictions
ORIGINATING EUROPE -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT EUR 75.00 EACH.
Transfer restrictions
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 15JUN 15.
Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 26NOV 14.
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Flight restrictions
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY BT
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY EY
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY F7
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY HM
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY HU
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IG
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY JU
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY PC
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY VA
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY B2
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY FI
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY TF
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP
AY FLIGHTS 8100 THROUGH 8700 OPERATED BY BE.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2C
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY FJ
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY HM
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY VN
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS
ANY KA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BI
ANY KA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA
ANY RJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY WY
ANY RJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY GF
ANY RJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY RO
ANY RJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY IG.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY 5Q
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AT
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AV
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY FB
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY G3
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IG
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY LY
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY PS
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY OK
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY TA
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY
IB FLIGHTS 1250 THROUGH 1330
IB FLIGHTS 2310 THROUGH 2399.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AM
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY NH
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY PZ
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY SA
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY US
ANY LA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AM
ANY LA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY LA FLIGHT OPERATED BY KE
ANY LA FLIGHT OPERATED BY PZ.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BB
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY EY
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY FJ
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HU
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QX
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY TN
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS
ANY QR FLIGHT OPERATED BY 2C
ANY QR FLIGHT OPERATED BY B6
ANY QR FLIGHT OPERATED BY G3
ANY QR FLIGHT OPERATED BY ME
ANY QR FLIGHT OPERATED BY NH
ANY QR FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG
ANY QR FLIGHT OPERATED BY US
ANY QR FLIGHT OPERATED BY WY.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AF
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY B6
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY CI
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY CZ
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY GK
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY KE
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY MU
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY TN
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY VN
ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
MH FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY 8M
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY BI
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY CZ
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY FY
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY GA
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY GF
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY HY
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY KE
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY KL
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY MF
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY MK
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY MS
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK
ANY MH FLIGHT OPERATED BY WY.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY 3K
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY 9W
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY CZ
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY FJ
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY MU
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY NF
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY PX
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY OZ
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY TL
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY VN.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY A3
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY B2
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY EY
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY HU
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY IG
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY J2
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY LY
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY OZ
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY PS
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP
ANY US FLIGHT OPERATED BY A3
ANY US FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA
ANY US FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA
ANY US FLIGHT OPERATED BY SA
ANY US FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK
ANY US FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
ANY UL FLIGHT OPERATED BY AZ
ANY UL FLIGHT OPERATED BY EY
ANY UL FLIGHT OPERATED BY MJ
ANY UL FLIGHT OPERATED BY QZ
ANY UL FLIGHT OPERATED BY WY.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
4M FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 6999
4M FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8399
4M FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999
AC FLIGHTS 2200 THROUGH 6999
AC FLIGHTS 7200 THROUGH 7649
AC FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999
AI FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 8999
AS FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999
AS FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 9999
AT FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999
AV FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2299
AV FLIGHTS 2600 THROUGH 2999
AV FLIGHTS 4300 THROUGH 4999
AV FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 6999
B6 FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 5999
BR FLIGHTS 2141 THROUGH 3999
BT FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5999
BT FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7999
9W FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2999
9W FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 7999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
CA FLIGHTS 1151 THROUGH 1200
CA FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999
CA FLIGHTS 4075 THROUGH 4098
CA FLIGHTS 4600 THROUGH 4990
CA FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 9000
CI FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999
CZ FLIGHTS 0501 THROUGH 0550
CZ FLIGHTS 1001 THROUGH 1999
CZ FLIGHTS 4001 THROUGH 4999
CZ FLIGHTS 5001 THROUGH 5999
CZ FLIGHTS 7001 THROUGH 7999
DL FLIGHTS 6800 THROUGH 7299
EI FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 6999
ET FLIGHTS 1001 THROUGH 1899
FJ FLIGHTS 0500 THROUGH 0599
FJ FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5999
GA FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999
GF FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 6999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
HA FLIGHTS 600 THROUGH 699
HA FLIGHTS 1900 THROUGH 9999
HU FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999
HX FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999
IG FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999
IR FLIGHTS 0871 THROUGH 0872
IR FLIGHTS 0744 THROUGH 0745
IR FLIGHT 5150
J2 FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 6999
JP FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999
KC FLIGHTS 0409 THROUGH 0410
KC FLIGHTS 0577 THROUGH 0578
KC FLIGHTS 0697 THROUGH 0698
KC FLIGHTS 1294 THROUGH 1297
KC FLIGHTS 1801 THROUGH 1802
KE FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 7999
KM FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
LP FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999
LP FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 6999
LP FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8399
LR FLIGHTS 0100 THROUGH 0160
LR FLIGHTS 0702 THROUGH 0720
LR FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2009
LR FLIGHTS 6000 THROUGH 6999
LX FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 4999
LX FLIGHTS 7400 THROUGH 7499
LY FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999
MI FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 9999
MU FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999
MU FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 9999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
NZ FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 4999
NZ FLIGHTS 7900 THROUGH 7998
NZ FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999
OU FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5999
OZ FLIGHTS 6100 THROUGH 7000
OZ FLIGHTS 8100 THROUGH 8109
OZ FLIGHTS 9101 THROUGH 9999
PG FLIGHTS 3300 THROUGH 3399
PG FLIGHTS 3500 THROUGH 3699
PG FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 4999
PG FLIGHTS 6101 THROUGH 6999
PG FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 9999
PS FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 9999
PU FLIGHTS 7224 THROUGH 7232
PW FLIGHTS 0100 THROUGH 0199
PW FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 5999
PZ FLIGHTS 0730 THROUGH 0739
RO FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
PR FLIGHTS 0014 THROUGH 0092
PR FLIGHTS 0154 THROUGH 0155
PR FLIGHTS 0201 THROUGH 0202
PR FLIGHTS 0230 THROUGH 0279
PR FLIGHTS 0287 THROUGH 0298
PR FLIGHTS 0303 THROUGH 0304
PR FLIGHTS 0361 THROUGH 0396
PR FLIGHTS 0519 THROUGH 0588
PR FLIGHTS 0621 THROUGH 0628
PR FLIGHTS 0644 THROUGH 0649
PR FLIGHTS 0660 THROUGH 0668
PR FLIGHTS 0704 THROUGH 0705
PR FLIGHTS 0773 THROUGH 0796
PR FLIGHTS 0802 THROUGH 0807
PR FLIGHTS 0869 THROUGH 0870
PR FLIGHTS 0903 THROUGH 0998.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
SA FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7950
SN FLIGHTS 4000 THROUGH 9999
SQ FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 9999
SS FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 4999
SS FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999
SU FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 4299
SU FLIGHTS 4400 THROUGH 4599
SW FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2999
TA FLIGHTS 0100 THROUGH 0160
TA FLIGHTS 0702 THROUGH 0720
UA FLIGHTS 0001 THROUGH 1299
UO FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 1999
VN FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 3999
VS FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 3999
VS FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 9999
WS FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 8849
XL FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999
XL FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 6999
XL FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8399.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN EUROPE AND
AFRICA ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT.
Advanced reservation/ticketing restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS
BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 7 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST
INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
Maximum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
Stopover restrictions
ORIGINATING EUROPE -
UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
LIMITED TO 2 FREE AND UNLIMITED AT EUR 75.00 EACH.
Transfer restrictions
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
Combinability
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB IN ANY RULE IN ANY
TARIFF.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES.
VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY RULE IN ANY PUBLIC TARIFF.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3
-WITHIN AREA 2
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB IN
ANY RULE AND TARIFF.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA/IB IN ANY
RULE AND TARIFF.
Surcharges
IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11.
A SURCHARGE OF USD 100.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
Travel restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 15JUN 15.
Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 26NOV 14.
Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR IB.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. EXTENSION OF TICKET
VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AA.
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. EXTENSION OF TICKET
VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
Sales restrictions
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN ARGENTINA/VENEZUELA.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
Penalties
CANCELLATIONS
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS
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WHEN COMBINING FARES THAT HAVE CANCELLATION FEES
THE HIGHEST CANCELLATION FEE OF EACH OF THE
CANCELLED PRICING UNITS APPLIES
WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION
WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
1.THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT
IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE PENALTY
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COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
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THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. FUEL AND INSURANCE
SURCHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 350.00.
NOTE -
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US -
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS
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CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
ADULT CHILD AND INFANT WITH SEAT.
INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
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A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
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REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
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REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN DEPARTURE TIME OF
THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR REFUND
IF APPLICABLE.
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WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
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---- REPRICING CONDITIONS ----
A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST FARE
COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
DATE
THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE TO
BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT AND
RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE
COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-
PRICED
USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS
TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT
ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-WHICHEVER IS
LOWER.
D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
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1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE MAY BE
LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW FARE
MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
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WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED AND THE ABOVE CHANGE
FEE APPLIES.
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE
CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE RESIDUAL
AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
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ORIGINAL REFUND CONDITIONS APPLY TO ANY UPGRADED
TICKET.
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NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
CANCELLATION
AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED.
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TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON
HIP exceptions
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
CONNECTIONS.
AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY
FOR STOPOVERS.
Endorsements
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
CONDITIONS APPLY - AND - NON ENDORSEABLE-BA ONLY - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.
NOTE -
TICKETS MUST SHOW BY THE USE OF AN INSERT OR
STICKER THAT TRAVEL IS AT A SPECIAL FARE AND
SUBJECT TO SPECIAL CONDITIONS
Discounts
ACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 12 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
Miscellaneous Fare Tags
THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE HIGH OR THE LOW FARE
WHEN CALCULATING A DIFFERENTIAL. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE
USED AS THE THROUGH FARE WHEN PRICING A FARE COMPONENT
WITH A DIFFERENTIAL.
Voluntary changes
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE EUR 350.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
SEAT AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
4. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
8. TKT MUST BE REISSUED AT SAME TIME AS CHANGE
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
6. TKT MUST BE REISSUED AT SAME TIME AS CHANGE
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL
APPLY TO NEW TKT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE EUR 350.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
SEAT AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
4. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
8. TKT MUST BE REISSUED AT SAME TIME AS CHANGE
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMOUNT.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL
APPLY TO NEW TKT
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. CHANGE IS AFTER ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT.
Application
SEMI-FLEXIBLE CLUB WORLD FARES FROM EUROPE TO AFRICA
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
BETWEEN EUROPE AND AFRICA.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
OTHER CONDITIONS
PASSENGER EXPENSES NOT PERMITTED
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