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Welcome to the thread—but please read this bit first
New to the thread? Welcome! If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.
  • from DUB, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - €1140, LAX - €1395, HNL - €1395, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
  • from CPH, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £804, LAX - £1149, HNL - £1220, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
  • from BRU, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - £1344, LAX - £1367, HNL - £1465, needs to be booked by 15 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods

If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.

In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note the following:
  • Current availability is not guaranteed.
  • All prices include taxes.

Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:

Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.

North & Central America
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
£0.78/TP | £713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£0.78/TP | £718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
£0.96/TP | £1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
£1.01/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
£1.02/TP | £909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat

£0.81/TP | £504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
£0.89/TP | £823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.81/TP | £561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
£1.51/TP | £1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015

£1.08/TP | £335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)

£0.93/TP | £288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
£1.35/TP | £323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
£1.56/TP | £970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
£1.44/TP | £534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)

£1.05/TP | £566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US

£1.20/TP | £505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA

£1.38/TP | £581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
£1.44/TP | £776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.57/TP | £282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.27/TP | £230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
£1.14/TP | £205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
£1.30/TP | £353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US

£0.97/TP | £640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
£1.07/TP | £640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
£0.86/TP until 6 March, £0.98/TP after | £764 (£668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
£1.31/TP | £784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US

£0.98/TP | £215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA

£1.05/TP | £423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA

£1.51/TP | £815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US

£1.76/TP | £740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA

£1.04/TP | £1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US

Europe
£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
£1.62/TP | £259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
£1.66/TP | £398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
£1.98/TP | £139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA

£2.14/TP | £513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA

£2.35/TP | £376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
£1.69/TP | £271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by £100, otherwise £2.31/TP | BA
£2.26/TP | £181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.55/TP | £248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
£2.49/TP | £199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
£1.69/TP | £270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
£2.60/TP | £104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at £2.45 | BA

Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£1.59/TP | £891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)

£1.06/TP | £594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
£1.13/TP | £400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
£1.25/TP | £452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
£1.27/TP | £457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
£1.27/TP | £459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.32/TP | £474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX

£1.97/TP | £315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX

£1.39/TP | £471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.41/TP | £476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.49/TP | £504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£2.12/TP | £309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
£1.81/TP | £650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH

£1.85/TP | £740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR

£1.22/TP | £442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.31/TP | £736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)

£1.13/TP | £630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)

£0.69/TP | £259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£0.73/TP | £265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.17/TP | £421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
£1.62/TP | £584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH

£1.65/TP | £914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH

£1.59/TP | £255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ

South America


Africa


Europe<->North & South America
£0.62/TP | £778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY

£0.82/TP | £853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
£0.74/TP | £853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US

£1.29/TP | £1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
£1.56/TP | £1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
£1.56/TP | £1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014

£1.88/TP | £1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)

£1.21/TP | £1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
£1.86/TP | £1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA

£1.51/TP | £1817 | 1200TPs | BRU-LHR-BOS-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | JimEddie | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.78/TP | £1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
£1.85/TP | £500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US

£1.33/TP | £1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US

£1.43/TP | £1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA

£2.18/TP | £1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA

£2.61/TP | £2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA

£2.25/TP | £225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA

Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
£2.19/TP | £1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
£2.25/TP | £1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
£2.73/TP | £1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA

Africa<->Rest of the World
£2.19/TP | £1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
£1.67/TP | £667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR

£2.92/TP | £1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)

Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
  • BA issued tickets (can include other carriers)
  • TA issued (on BA stock) booking with only BA flights
  • TA issued (on BA stock) booking with other carriers
  • Tickets issued on non-BA stock
TA has to issue the ticket in the country of your BAEC membership as well.

Notes
  • The ITA Matrix tool cannot be used to book tickets.
  • Some TP runs can be booked online at aa.com. Be sure to use the Sort by schedule option in order to locate the exact flights you found on the ITA Matrix tool.
  • A guide to using the ITA Matrix tool can be found here.
and externally here: http://hackmytrip.com/2012/01/introd...-to-using-ita/

AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL

US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF

oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410

BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411

To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411

All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.

BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).

LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).

LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.

MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.

LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
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Old Oct 9, 14, 11:17 am
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Karfa - you narrowed it down now, very good - thank you.

Seeing as I will already have 160TP's lined up for post Nov 8, your suggestion here seems ideal:
£1583 to OGG or HNL - Including BA1 out and BA2 back, US flights JFK-PHX-HNL/OGG, gets 1340 TPs - £1.18/TP

Is that still CPH-HEL-LHR first I assume? Then LCY - BA1 etc and obviously taking a one way cheapy to CPH to begin?

What then is the shortest time frame that could be done in? (Taking the Sunday into account?)

Is it possible to call BA and ask them to book this - if so what 'codes' do I give them?
Do you know the specific 'string' to put into the Matrix?

Thanks again
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Old Oct 9, 14, 11:21 am
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The conversations started today [...] have prompted me to finally sign up and post [...]
Welcome to FT, FastTrak2Elite. You'll find that most of us are mostly friendly, most of the time.
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Old Oct 9, 14, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
It might be worth our while creating a Matrix master thread / tutorial.

Unfortunately I am somewhat suspicious that the Matrix will not be with us for much longer.

A tutorial of any kind that can show me where I'm going wrong would be greatly appreciated. It took me long enough for the penny to drop about the WT+ upgrade with Avios to CW (granted most of that was trying to get my head around the abbreviations) so this TP run magic is just a blur right now
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Old Oct 9, 14, 11:24 am
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Welcome to FT, FastTrak2Elite. You'll find that most of us are mostly friendly, most of the time.
Thanks for the welcome, everything I've read so far proves how friendly and accommodating of newbies you all are

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Old Oct 9, 14, 11:29 am
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Here is one way to at least get you started:

In "Departing from" put CPH :: HEL LON BA1-4 JFK PHX
In "Destination" put OGG :: PHX JFK BA1-4 LON HEL

The double colons ("::") will do the work of putting the routing options into the "Advanced Routing Codes " fields

This basically means fly from CPH then to HEL then to LON (covers all London airports) then on one of BA1,2,3,4 to JFK then to PHX then to OGG. Similar for the reverse. Use the calendar option and start with a date in the allowed ranges (see post by KARFA).

Once it brings up some flights you will have the flight numbers and booking (fare) codes to tell the agent when you call up to book.
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Old Oct 9, 14, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by callahan44 View Post
Karfa - you narrowed it down now, very good - thank you.

Seeing as I will already have 160TP's lined up for post Nov 8, your suggestion here seems ideal:
£1583 to OGG or HNL - Including BA1 out and BA2 back, US flights JFK-PHX-HNL/OGG, gets 1340 TPs - £1.18/TP

Is that still CPH-HEL-LHR first I assume? Then LCY - BA1 etc and obviously taking a one way cheapy to CPH to begin?

What then is the shortest time frame that could be done in? (Taking the Sunday into account?)

Is it possible to call BA and ask them to book this - if so what 'codes' do I give them?
Do you know the specific 'string' to put into the Matrix?

Thanks again
Try
From: CPH :: AY,BA HEL AY,BA LON BA1,IB4601,AY5401,AA6229,US7408,BA3,IB4685,AY5403, AA6231,US7409 JFK US,AA PHX US,AA
To: HNL :: US,AA PHX US,AA JFK BA2,IB4600,AY5402,AA6228,US7410,BA4,IB4684,AY5404, AA6230,US7411 LON BA

Use the calendar search and see how it goes.
NB, if you get "Unable to process your request", try again!
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Old Oct 9, 14, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by callahan44 View Post
Karfa - you narrowed it down now, very good - thank you.

Seeing as I will already have 160TP's lined up for post Nov 8, your suggestion here seems ideal:
£1583 to OGG or HNL - Including BA1 out and BA2 back, US flights JFK-PHX-HNL/OGG, gets 1340 TPs - £1.18/TP

Is that still CPH-HEL-LHR first I assume? Then LCY - BA1 etc and obviously taking a one way cheapy to CPH to begin?

What then is the shortest time frame that could be done in? (Taking the Sunday into account?)

Is it possible to call BA and ask them to book this - if so what 'codes' do I give them?
Do you know the specific 'string' to put into the Matrix?
No, that one doesn't include going via HEL either on the outbound or inbound. One way to do it is a return from CPH, and OGG or HNL as a destination. Use routing codes

outbound: LON BA1-4 JFK PHX / alliance oneworld
inbound: PHX JFK BA1-4 LON / alliance oneworld

Select business class or higher, sales city London, maybe try 4 nights and see what that brings up when searching on calendar of fares.

I suspect 5 days in total.
  • CPH-LHR on day 1 (and get to CPH before that flight of course),
  • day 2 pick up BA1 in the morning from LCY then you can overnight at JFK or PHX,
  • day 3 get to HNL/OGG (lets pretend this is a saturday)
  • day 3 (still!) get a late flight back from HNL landing at PHX in the early morning of day 4
  • day 4 flight PHX-JFK arriving late afternoon/early evening and connect on to BA2 or BA4
  • day 5 arrive lcy, get over to LHR, get flight to CPH, get flight back to LHR if you can do a back-to-back

When you have got it priced up you can call BA and just read out the dates & flight number to book. Make sure your USA domestic flights are under the US/AA flight number and in A class so they each get 210 TPs.

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As much as that price is appealing - I've seen 1 way fares on BA1 costing more that £1500 - I'm not sure a 5 day transatlantic jaunt would be right for a first time run! Could you point me in the right direction for using matrix voodoo for JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER. I'm hoping for something achievable in a weekend...

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Old Oct 9, 14, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by FastTrak2Elite View Post
As much as that price is appealing - I've seen 1 way fares on BA1 costing more that £1500 - I'm not sure a 5 day transatlantic jaunt would be right for a first time run! Could you point me in the right direction for using matrix voodoo for JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER. I'm hoping for something achievable in a weekend...

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From: JER :: BA BA
To: MLA :: BA BA

Calendar search, business class. Once you've found what you need, book on ba.com.
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Old Oct 9, 14, 12:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
From: JER :: BA BA
To: MLA :: BA BA

Calendar search, business class. Once you've found what you need, book on ba.com.
ThanksCalchas, I'll give that a go.
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For the AMS-JER run you can buy two returns over two days . One would be AMS- JER and the other JER-AMS. You then nest the tickets such that you can get on the return flight from JER to AMS within 180mins.

There was a blog on it previously somewhere
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Originally Posted by Goose80 View Post
For the AMS-JER run you can buy two returns over two days . One would be AMS- JER and the other JER-AMS. You then nest the tickets such that you can get on the return flight from JER to AMS within 180mins.

There was a blog on it previously somewhere
So if you were trying to do a TP run in CE to say JER, AMS, or anywhere else you will find the one way CE fare is much higher than 50% of the return fare. As turnaround is invariably less than MCT, the only options are to book a return on the next rotation back and sit it out at the airport - with AMS or JER at least the next flight is usually 3/4 hours away so not too bad. Alternatively you can nest tickets so you get a ticket which is LGW-JER-LGW (Tckt.A) and another which is JER-LGW-JER (Tckt.B). You then work the dates and flights so you can get back on the same plane as between the two tickets you have two LGW-JER legs and two JER-LGW legs. No more problem with MCT and you can now do back-to-backs (both JER and AMS Are very easy for this) but it does involve having to do the TP run on two different dates.

Day 1 - LGW-JER (Tckt.A) then JER-LGW (Tckt.B)
Day 2 - LGW-JER (Tckt.B) then JER-LGW (Tckt.A)

With domestic or euro traveller fares the one way is typically 50% of the return so booking two one ways shouldn't be more expensive.

EDIT: and just to add you can always do something more adventurous and do a nest in a nest in a nest as I reported here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-140.html#2090

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GinFizz, Calchas, Karfa, much more specific information there thank you! Will try those suggestions. Still, it seems, whilst short hops can add up the TP's as well, if I just want to buy / run to Gold (with OK the pain of living in the air of 5-7 days) that the quickest and cheapest way to do it is still the exEu - USA route - which I am up for…Say £2000 ish all in. I just have to understand this Matrix business (or pay someone to do it as I offered) and somehow get it booked! Really good to see so many people are willing to share their knowledge on here - this FT rocks or flys or something...
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Originally Posted by Goose80 View Post
For the AMS-JER run you can buy two returns over two days . One would be AMS- JER and the other JER-AMS. You then nest the tickets such that you can get on the return flight from JER to AMS within 180mins.

There was a blog on it previously somewhere
There is indeed:

http://pointstobemade.boardingarea.c...ms-jer-tp-run/
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Originally Posted by Calchas View Post
From: JER :: BA BA
To: MLA :: BA BA

Calendar search, business class. Once you've found what you need, book on ba.com.
So I did this and the cheapest I got was £395, which is neither:

£1.33/TP | £319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J |

nor

£1.96/TP | £471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I |

and the itinerary is J/R/I/J

I am therefore assuming that there is no R class on the MLA to LGW leg, therefore accounting for the £76 price increase over the first itinerary, but represents the best price available on these dates whereas the wiki listed itinerary at £319 is the best price available in the correct circumstances (flight sale, for example).

Would my assumptions be correct here?
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