Jan 1, 2014, 5:11 am
Last edit by: Prospero
Welcome to the thread—but please read this bit first
New to the thread? Welcome!
If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.
In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
North & Central America
Ł0.75/TP | Ł685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
Ł0.78/TP | Ł713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
Ł0.78/TP | Ł718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
Ł0.96/TP | Ł1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
Ł1.01/TP | Ł909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
Ł1.02/TP | Ł909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
Ł0.81/TP | Ł504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
Ł0.89/TP | Ł823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
Ł1.81/TP | Ł561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
Ł1.51/TP | Ł1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015
Ł1.08/TP | Ł335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
Ł0.93/TP | Ł288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
Ł1.35/TP | Ł323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
Ł1.56/TP | Ł970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
Ł1.44/TP | Ł534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)
Ł1.05/TP | Ł566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
Ł1.20/TP | Ł505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA
Ł1.38/TP | Ł581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
Ł1.44/TP | Ł776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
Ł1.57/TP | Ł282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
Ł1.27/TP | Ł230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
Ł1.14/TP | Ł205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
Ł1.30/TP | Ł353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US
Ł0.97/TP | Ł640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
Ł1.07/TP | Ł640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
Ł0.86/TP until 6 March, Ł0.98/TP after | Ł764 (Ł668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
Ł1.31/TP | Ł784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US
Ł0.98/TP | Ł215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
Ł1.05/TP | Ł423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA
Ł1.51/TP | Ł815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
Ł1.76/TP | Ł740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
Ł1.04/TP | Ł1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US
Europe
Ł1.33/TP | Ł319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
Ł1.96/TP | Ł471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
Ł1.62/TP | Ł259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
Ł1.66/TP | Ł398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
Ł1.98/TP | Ł139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA
Ł2.14/TP | Ł513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA
Ł2.35/TP | Ł376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Ł1.69/TP | Ł271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by Ł100, otherwise Ł2.31/TP | BA
Ł2.26/TP | Ł181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
Ł1.55/TP | Ł248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
Ł2.49/TP | Ł199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
Ł1.69/TP | Ł270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
Ł2.60/TP | Ł104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at Ł2.45 | BA
Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
Ł1.59/TP | Ł891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)
Ł1.06/TP | Ł594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
Ł1.13/TP | Ł400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
Ł1.25/TP | Ł452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
Ł1.27/TP | Ł457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
Ł1.27/TP | Ł459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł1.32/TP | Ł474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
Ł1.97/TP | Ł315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX
Ł1.39/TP | Ł471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
Ł1.41/TP | Ł476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
Ł1.49/TP | Ł504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
Ł2.12/TP | Ł309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
Ł1.81/TP | Ł650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH
Ł1.85/TP | Ł740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR
Ł1.22/TP | Ł442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł1.31/TP | Ł736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
Ł1.13/TP | Ł630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)
Ł1.13/TP | Ł630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)
Ł0.69/TP | Ł259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł0.73/TP | Ł265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł1.17/TP | Ł421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł1.62/TP | Ł584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH
Ł1.65/TP | Ł914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH
Ł1.59/TP | Ł255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ
South America
Africa
Europe<->North & South America
Ł0.62/TP | Ł778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY
Ł0.82/TP | Ł853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
Ł0.74/TP | Ł853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US
Ł1.29/TP | Ł1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
Ł1.56/TP | Ł1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
Ł1.56/TP | Ł1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014
Ł1.88/TP | Ł1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)
Ł1.21/TP | Ł1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
Ł1.86/TP | Ł1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA
Ł1.51/TP | Ł1817 | 1200TPs | BRU-LHR-BOS-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | JimEddie | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
Ł1.78/TP | Ł1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
Ł1.85/TP | Ł500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US
Ł1.33/TP | Ł1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US
Ł1.43/TP | Ł1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA
Ł2.18/TP | Ł1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA
Ł2.61/TP | Ł2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA
Ł2.25/TP | Ł225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA
Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
Ł2.19/TP | Ł1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
Ł2.25/TP | Ł1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
Ł2.73/TP | Ł1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Africa<->Rest of the World
Ł2.19/TP | Ł1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
Ł1.67/TP | Ł667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR
Ł2.92/TP | Ł1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
Notes
AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL
US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF
oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410
BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411
To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411
All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.
BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).
LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).
LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.
MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.
LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
New to the thread? Welcome!
If you are asking about obtaining tier points in the current sale, please read the following posts first.- from DUB, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - €1140, LAX - €1395, HNL - €1395, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from CPH, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - Ł804, LAX - Ł1149, HNL - Ł1220, needs to be booked by 27 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
- from BRU, IL28SALE - to US reported here, e.g. JFK - Ł1344, LAX - Ł1367, HNL - Ł1465, needs to be booked by 15 Jan, see linked post for valid travel periods
If your question is not answered there, or you want more help, please do post in the Business Class IL28SALE fares: DUB/CPH/BRU to North America thread and join in.
In the rest of this wiki, we keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
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This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under Ł3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
North & Central America
Ł0.75/TP | Ł685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
Ł0.78/TP | Ł713 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
Ł0.78/TP | Ł718 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-PTY-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | onobond | AA updated 04 Oct 14
Ł0.96/TP | Ł1080 | 1120TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-LIM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Lorcancoyle
Ł1.01/TP | Ł909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-GCM-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
Ł1.02/TP | Ł909 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-BZE-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I//I/A/A | aa.com | Pinkcat
Ł0.81/TP | Ł504 | 620TPs | PTY-MIA-MCO or LAS -LAX retrun | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Chris1979 |
Ł0.89/TP | Ł823 | 920TPs | SAL-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SAL | I/A/A/A/A/I | aa.com | Filthy Monkey | Long layovers | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
Ł1.81/TP | Ł561 | 310TPs | SJU-MIA-LAX-LAS | I/A/P | aa.com | xenole | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
Ł1.51/TP | Ł1397 | 920TP | SJU-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-SJU | aa.com xenole (Updated 11th Dec 2014) - price seems to be pretty consistent throughout 2015
Ł1.08/TP | Ł335 | 310TPs | PLS-MIA-LAX-SFO | I/A/A | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
Ł0.93/TP | Ł288 | 310TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-PLS | A/A/I | aa.com | abitwild | AA (Updated 29 July '14)
Ł1.35/TP | Ł323 | 240TPs | SFO-PHX/LAX-LAS | A/A/A/A | various | AA
Ł1.56/TP | Ł970 | 620TPs | SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-SFO | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | chris1979/courtster | SFO can be changed to LAS for same price/TPs | AA
Ł1.44/TP | Ł534 | 370TPs | SFO - LAX - LAS - MIA - PLS | A/A/A/I | aa.com | theultimateflyer | AA (Updated 31 July '14)
Ł1.05/TP | Ł566 | 540TPs | LAX-CLT-NAS NAS-CLT-LAX | A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
Ł1.20/TP | Ł505 | 420TPs | PBI - LAX - PBI | P | aa.com | Cymro | AA
Ł1.38/TP | Ł581 | 420TPs | SEA-MIA-SEA | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
Ł1.44/TP | Ł776 | 540TPs | SEA-PHL-DCA-PHL-SEA | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
Ł1.57/TP | Ł282 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-ATL-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
Ł1.27/TP | Ł230 | 180TPs | SEA-PHX-EWR-PHL-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | OWBA | US
Ł1.14/TP | Ł205 | 180TPs | SEA-CLT-TPA-CLT-SEA | K/K/K/K (economy) | usairways.com | angatol | US
Ł1.30/TP | Ł353 | 270TPs | SFO-CLT-JFK | A/A | usairways.com | frb98mf | US
Ł0.97/TP | Ł640 | 660TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB-PHX-BOS(or PHL)-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | alexbellamy | US
Ł1.07/TP | Ł640 | 600TPs | LGA-BOS(or PHL)-PHX-LGB LGB-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | chris1979 | US
Ł0.86/TP until 6 March, Ł0.98/TP after | Ł764 (Ł668 until 6 March) | 780TPs | LGA-PHL-LAX-PHX-LGB-PHX-LAX-CLT-LGA | A/A/A/A/A/A/A/A | hipmunk.com (you can enter exact flight #s using ITA route language; hipmunk loads the flights into usairways.com) | HPN-HRL | US
Ł1.31/TP | Ł784 | 600TPs | JFK-CLT-PHX-SJD-SJD-PHX-JFK | A/A/A/A/A | usairways.com | KARFA | US
Ł0.98/TP | Ł215 | 220TPs | BOS-JFK-DCA-MIA-SJU | A/A/A/I | aa.com | HPN-HRL | Itinerary can be reversed for same price/TPs | AA
Ł1.05/TP | Ł423 | | 400TPs | RIC-DFW-SJU-DFW-RIC | A/I/I/A | wenzlydale | AA
Ł1.51/TP | Ł815 | 540TPs | PDX-PHL-BOS-PHL-PDX | A/A/A/A | usairways.com | OWBA | US
Ł1.76/TP | Ł740 | 420TPs | DFW-ANC-DFW | P/P | aa.com | OWBA | AA
Ł1.04/TP | Ł1001 | 960TPs | YYZ-PHL-PHX-HNL-PHX-PHL-YYZ | A/A/A/A/A/A | matrix | kellytoronto | US
Europe
Ł1.33/TP | Ł319 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | skipcool3 | BA
Ł1.96/TP | Ł471 | 240TPs | JER-LGW-MLA-LGW-JER | I/I/I/I | ba.com | continentalclub | Sat Night Stay | BA
Ł1.62/TP | Ł259 | 160TPs | JER-LGW-AMS-LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | joejet | BA
Ł1.66/TP | Ł398 | 240TPs | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL-LHR/LGW-JER | J/R/R/J | ba.com | KARFA | BA
Ł1.98/TP | Ł139 | 70TPs | LHR-DME-LHR | ? | ba.com | stewaran BA
Ł2.14/TP | Ł513 | 240TPs | BOD-LGW//LHR-HEL-LHR//LGW-BOD | I/I/I/I | ba.com | Avnu | BA
Ł2.35/TP | Ł376 | 160TPs | LHR-HEL-LHR | I/I | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Ł1.69/TP | Ł271 | 160TP | LHR-HEL-LHR | I-I| ba.com | Herman ze German| also needs 15.000 Avios to reduce price by Ł100, otherwise Ł2.31/TP | BA
Ł2.26/TP | Ł181 | 80TPs | LGW-JER-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
Ł1.55/TP | Ł248 | 160TPs | LGW-MLA-LGW | R/R | ba.com | LDNConsultant | BA
Ł2.49/TP | Ł199 | 80TPs | LGW-AMS-LGW | R/R | ba.com | BA
Ł1.69/TP | Ł270 | 160TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | I/I | ba.com | nufnuf77 | BA
Ł2.60/TP | Ł104 | 40TPs | LGW-RAK-LGW | O/O | ba.com | lorcancoyle | HBO fare, only midweek, Nov-14 to Mar-15, o/w slightly cheaper at Ł2.45 | BA
Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
Ł1.59/TP | Ł891 | 560TPs | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX (overnight connections required)
Ł1.06/TP | Ł594 | 560TPs | TPE-KUL-DEL-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Oct 2014
Ł1.13/TP | Ł400 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chongcao | MH
Ł1.25/TP | Ł452 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-SUB-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | CX
Ł1.27/TP | Ł457 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-DPS-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
Ł1.27/TP | Ł459 | 360TPs | TPE-KUL-BKK-KUL-TPE | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł1.32/TP | Ł474 | 360TPs | TPE-HKG-CGK-HKG-TPE | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | TEX277 | CX
Ł1.97/TP | Ł315 | 160TPs | CAN-HKG-TPE-HKG-CAN | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | SinoBritAsia | KA/CX
Ł1.39/TP | Ł471 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-KTM-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
Ł1.41/TP | Ł476 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DEL-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
Ł1.49/TP | Ł504 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-TPE-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
Ł2.12/TP | Ł309 | 160TPs | SIN-KUL-KCH-KUL-SIN | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | qasr | MH
Ł1.81/TP | Ł650 | 360TPs | SIN-KUL-DXB-KUL-SIN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | MH
Ł1.85/TP | Ł740 | 400TPs | BKK-DOH-DWC-DOH-BKK | D/A/A/D | qatarairways.com | Wozza2404 | QR
Ł1.22/TP | Ł442 | 360TPs | DEL-KUL-BKK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł1.31/TP | Ł736 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-NRT-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | Seshy | MH - updated Oct 2014 ( book by Nov 5th 2014)
Ł1.13/TP | Ł630 | 560TPs | DEL-KUL-PEK-KUL-DEL | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Nov 5th 2014)
Ł1.13/TP | Ł630 | 560TPs | PEK-KUL-KTM-KUL-PEK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | GinFizz | MH (book by Oct 31st 2014 - but seems to reappear every few months)
Ł0.69/TP | Ł259 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-TPE-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł0.73/TP | Ł265 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DEL-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł1.17/TP | Ł421 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-NRT-KUL-BKK | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | onobond | MH - updated Nov 2014
Ł1.62/TP | Ł584 | 360TPs | BKK-KUL-DXB-KUL-BKK | Z/J/J/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | chiefwiggumpi | MH
Ł1.65/TP | Ł914 | 560TPs | ICN-KUL-SYD-KUL-ICN | Z/Z/Z/Z | malaysiaairlines.com | armagebedar | SYD can be changed to MEL for same price/TPs | MH
Ł1.59/TP | Ł255 | 160TPs | BEY-AMM-AQJ-AMM-BEY | D/D/D/D | rj.com | DeanB | RJ
South America
Africa
Europe<->North & South America
Ł0.62/TP | Ł778 | 1250TPs | JER-LGW//LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-PHX-JFK/EWR-LHR-HEL-MAN | J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | BA Call centre | hawklx | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US/AY
Ł0.82/TP | Ł853 | 1020TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | J/I/I/A/A/I/I/J | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15, other restrictions apply | BA/IB/AA/US
Ł0.74/TP | Ł853 | 1160TPs | MAN/NCL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-MAN/NCL | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | BA Call centre | Jamier45 and nufnuf77 | Book by 4-Dec-14, travel by 3-Jan-15 | BA/AA/IB/US
Ł1.29/TP | Ł1732 | 1340TPs | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-DUB | J/I/A/P/P/A/I/J | BA call centre | diamond club freeloader | BA/US, exemplar dates 16-20 Jul 2015
Ł1.56/TP | Ł1750 | 1120TPs | DUB-PHL-PHX-HNL-LAX-CLT-DUB | I/A/A/A/A/I | BA call centre | EDIflyer/dutch_122 | US/AA
Ł1.56/TP | Ł1625 | 1040 TP | DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-DUB | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | BA or AA | Calchas | Expires 23 Sept 2014
Ł1.88/TP | Ł1449 | 770TPs | DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS/SFO-JFK-LCY/LHR-BRU | J/I/I/A/I/I/J | BA or AA | Lorcancoyle | BA/AA (#4029)
Ł1.21/TP | Ł1640 | 1360TPs | AMS-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-BOS-LHR-HEL-BRU | I/J/I/I/A/A/A/I/I/I | LHR T5 Zone E | Cerebus | AY/BA/AA
Ł1.86/TP | Ł1942 | 1040TPs | AMS-LCY-JFK-LAS-LAX-SFO-JFK-LCY-AMS | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | LDNConsultant | BA/AA
Ł1.78/TP | Ł1640 | 920TPs | BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA-JFK-LCY//LHR-BRU | I/I/A/A/I/I | BA call centre | stifle | Sat night stay required | BA/AA
Ł1.85/TP | Ł500 | 270TPs | BRU-PHL-PHX-IAH-CLT-PHL-BRU | R/R/R/R/R/R (US Airways' equivalent of BA O Class) | usairways.com | BA0197 |Sat night stay required/ other ex-EU destinations similarly priced/ Winter Holiday times | US
Ł1.33/TP | Ł1990 | 1500TPs | ARN-HEL-LHR//LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY//LHR-HEL-ARN | I/J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J/I | Agehall | ILR28AP fare | AY/BA/AA/US
Ł1.43/TP | Ł1492 | 1040TPs | MXP-LHR/LCY-JFK-PHX-SEA-PHX-JFK-LCY/LHR-MXP | J/I/A/A/A/A/I/J | aa.com | ringingup | BA/AA
Ł2.18/TP | Ł1349 | 620TPs | PRG-LHR-LCY-JFK-ORD//DCA-JFK-LCY-LHR-PRG | J/I/A/A/I/J | BA call centre | ringingup | BA/AA
Ł2.61/TP | Ł2189 | 790TPs | IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | BA/AA
Ł2.25/TP | Ł225 | 100TPs | OSL-LHR-JFK//BOS-JFK-LHR-MAN | S/O/O/O/S | ba.com | perthflyer | Book by 19/11/14 for travel up to March 2015. Sat. night stay req. | BA/AA
Europe<-> Far East, South & Central Asia, Middle East, and Australia
Ł2.19/TP | Ł1231 | 560TPs | CDG-DOH-KTM-DOH-CDG | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | QR
Ł2.25/TP | Ł1255 | 560TPs | DME-DOH-SGN-DOH-DME | I/I/I/I | qatarairways.com | continentalclub | QR
Ł2.73/TP | Ł1257 | 460TPs | GOT-LHR-SIN-BKK-HKG-LHR-GOT | J/I/I/I/I/J | ba.com | lorcancoyle | BA
Africa<->Rest of the World
Ł2.19/TP | Ł1842 | 840TPs | CAI-LHR-JFK-EZE-JFK-LHR-CAI | D/D/D/D/D/D | aa.com | nth_utsera_sth_utsera | Transatlantic must be AA metal | BA/AA
Ł1.67/TP | Ł667 | 400TPs | CAI-DOH-BKK-DOH-CAI | qatarairways.com | Phil the Flyer | ex-CAI via DOH to MXP, FCO, ZRH, FRA all currently available for between GBP1.70 and GBP1.80/TP | QR
Ł2.92/TP | Ł1405 | 480TPs | JNB-SYD-PER-SYD-JNB | R/I/I/R | qantas.com | beardoc | Note that R is premium economy and not business (FARE NOW DEAD)
Upgrading Using Avios (UUA)
Summary guide to bookings which can be upgraded with Avios:
- BA issued tickets (can include other carriers) ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with only BA flights ^
- TA issued (on BA stock) booking with other carriers
- Tickets issued on non-BA stock
Notes
- The ITA Matrix tool cannot be used to book tickets.
- Some TP runs can be booked online at aa.com. Be sure to use the Sort by schedule option in order to locate the exact flights you found on the ITA Matrix tool.
- A guide to using the ITA Matrix tool can be found here.
AA 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
DFW - ANC, SJU, HNL
JFK – SEA, LAS, SAN
LAX - BOS, FLL, IAD, MIA, YYZ, HNL, MCO, TPA
MIA – SFO, LAS, SEA, SLC (from March 2015)
ORD – SJU, ANC, HNL
US Airways 2,000+ mile routes (210 TPs in F)
PHX- SJO, BOS, EWR, ANC, HNL, JFK and PHL
PHL- SAN, LAX, LAS, SFO, PHX, PDX and SEA
CLT -SAN, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA and SMF
DCA - LAS
RDU -LAX
SMF - BWI
There are also once a week flights from CLT to BGI and from ATL to SMF
oneworld Codeshares for the BA LCY-JFK Flights
BA1 - IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, and US7408
BA2 - IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, and US7410
BA3 - IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, and US7409
BA4 - IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, and US7411
To enter into the matrix:
Outbound - BA1, IB4601, AY5401, AA6229, US7408, BA3, IB4685, AY5403, AA6231, US7409
Inbound - BA2, IB4600, AY5402, AA6228, US7410, BA4, IB4684, AY5404, AA6230, US7411
All should earn 210 TPs, but avios earning will differ depending on codeshare booked.
BA/AY short haul+ routes (earn 80 TPs in CE one way)
LHR to Athens (ATH), Bucharest (OTP), Gran Canaria (LPA), Helsinki (HEL), Istanbul (IST), Kiev (KBP), Kos (KGS) due to start May 2015, Larnaca (LCA), Mykonos (JMK), Santonrini (JTR), Sofia (SOF), and St Petersburg (LED).
LGW to Algiers (ALG), Bodrum (BJV) due to start late April 2015, Dalaman (DLM) due to start late April 2015, Fuerteventura (FUE) due to start 13 December 2014 (does not show as a short haul+ route on BAEC calculator but that seems to be an error), Heraklion (HER) due to start late April 2015, Lanzarote (ACE), Larnaca (LCA), Las Palmas (LPA) due to start March 2015, Madeira Funchal (FNC) due to start March 2015, Malta (MLA), Marrakech (RAK), Paphos (PFO), Rhodes (RHO) due to start late April 2015, Tenerife (TFS), Thessaloniki (SKG), and Tirana (TIA).
LCY to Mykonos (JMK) and Santonrini (JTR) - both for June to September 2015.
MAN to Helsinki (HEL) operated by BE for AY.
LGW to Sharm el-Sheikh (SSH) due to start September 2015 - although this route will be flown wil A320 aircraft and CE/ET cabins, as noted here have been advised that it will attract longhaul TPs, so 140 TPs each way in J.
BA Tier Point runs | 2014 master thread
Oct 2, 2014, 4:57 am
#4366
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I'd also point out that if you're doing a Trans Atlantic, a Trans Continental and a part Trans Pacific in one day you need to be quite a good flyer to cope with it all! I have had practice on this over the years, but it's still quite knackering. One trip last year I had bad turbulence on all 3 sectors and I did feel I had been thoroughly through the wringer by the time I got to Waikiki!
All too easy to underestimate just how demanding these itineraries can be - turbulence or not.
Oct 2, 2014, 5:12 am
#4367
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 995
I would agree - last week I did LHR-BOS on the 17.10 overnight in BOS then 7.00AM flight from BOS to LAX, wait in LAX Flagship lounge for 7 hours for the 17.30 flight to OGG - arrive in OGG at 20.10 Hawaii time pickup rental car and then drive to hotel. Total travelling time from BOS approaching 22 hours and the last 5 hours on the 757 were much much worse than all the other sectors.
By comparision, I did a back to back LAX DCA last week - depart LAX 7.55 arrive DCA 16.00 depart DCA 16.59 arrive LAX 19.44 all on the same 737. It was a breeze compared to flying on the 757. Much better seats, IFE was great, plane was less noisy.
By comparision, I did a back to back LAX DCA last week - depart LAX 7.55 arrive DCA 16.00 depart DCA 16.59 arrive LAX 19.44 all on the same 737. It was a breeze compared to flying on the 757. Much better seats, IFE was great, plane was less noisy.
Oct 2, 2014, 5:30 am
#4368
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Glasgow / London
Programs: BA GGL
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My worst trip involved a trip across the Atlantic on the 318 out of LCY, which was lovely, an overnight in JFK, a transcon to LAX on the 321, which was also lovely and a 3 hour layover in LA before our flight to HNL on the nasty 757. Unfortunately our planned flight went tech, so that three hour layover became a 10 hour layover. Those of you who have been to the Flagship lounge in LAX will know that there really is not a lot to do! We survived the boredom and took off late in the evening, arriving in HNL around 3am. We went for a walk along Waikiki beach to stretch our legs after the flight and decided that it would be fun to go skinny dipping. Great idea until we discovered that it was one of the 'Jelly Fish Sting Caution Dates'. Unfortunately we only discovered that after Danielle had been stung. Doh!
Oct 2, 2014, 5:38 am
#4369
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Location: London
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Interesting, the AA desktop timetables say it is a 757 but aa.com for 28th November and all that week says flight 31 is a 763. It seems to revert back to a 757 on December 2nd but then comes back for Saturdays in December. I hope it is for your sake as the 763 is much more comfortable than the 757.
I wonder if there is something on in HNL over that period as they do not normally run a 763 to HNL from LAX. If they continue to offer the 763 to HNL then I would take this plane to HNL in preference to taking a direct 757 to OGG or KOA. The connecting flight on Hawaiian 717 is quite short and frequent.
I wonder if there is something on in HNL over that period as they do not normally run a 763 to HNL from LAX. If they continue to offer the 763 to HNL then I would take this plane to HNL in preference to taking a direct 757 to OGG or KOA. The connecting flight on Hawaiian 717 is quite short and frequent.
As said, I was pleansatly surprised to see it being changed from 757 to 767 (at the same time as being disappointed with then MIA LAX swap from 763 to 738 so overall, it felt like a 'net zero' position).
Was particularly keen on being on the 763 (over and above the reason of it being of course more comfortable) as doing the trip with someone who's not done TP run before and we tried to make it as fun / 'exciting' as possible with regards to flights and planes (thus now AA 738, 763, US 757, 321 plus BA 744, 318, 320 and E190).
Oct 2, 2014, 5:47 am
#4370
Join Date: May 2012
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Oct 2, 2014, 7:16 am
#4372
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: London
Programs: BA CCR/GGL, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,483
Thanks for all the replies.
Given I live about 30 minutes door-to-door to LCY or about 90 minutes to LHR, I tend to do my ex-EU flights by flying over and back one evening after work, sleeping in my own bed that night, and then doing the TATL section the next day. It means one less day off work, and I can drop the children off to school! I looked at CPH (when ITA is working - 
like you say!) and the lowest price was Ł2,500 leaving CPH on 1 July 
.
The date I'd priced up was the BA1 on 2 July so, subject to negotiations with MrsLA, I may see you there!
I did the trip to HNL with my dad last year on AA (plug for trip report here!) but going BRU - LHR - BOS - LAX - HNL - LAX - IAD - LHR - BRU we only spent one night on a plane, and that was flying F from IAD to LHR - stopping off for a day in each city en-route did make the whole thing a bit more civilised, and this time I'd probably do the same, with the exception of the HNL - PHX being an overnighter on the plane 
Also look at exCPH beyond 1 July 2015 if you haven't already done so, you may find it is cheaper than exDUB with some prices noted here. The advantage of DUB though is that there is going to be a LCY service so you can do same day DUB-LCY-JFK to connect on to BA1 in the morning. For exCPH you will need to come across from CPH the day before and pick up BA1 in the morning after a night at home.
like you say!) and the lowest price was Ł2,500 leaving CPH on 1 July .
I would go for AA, particularly if the moons align and it is a 767. Even in a 757 I would go AA, for the power and better overall service, and indeed many of the factors mentioned above by SI.
On the other hand, PHX is a vastly better place to transfer between flights. LAX has been digging up its runway and apron of T4 since I was a child (or so it seems) and the LAX gate handling - never its strong point - can be tiresome. Also AA's crews have a seniority system with knobs on it for HNL, whereas US crews don't have such an embedded set of crews, so you do get some that are not entirely cynical about life.
In other words for a one-off a strong recommendation for AA, on the proviso that it's not a First experience (I'd much rather go Club Europe, if the winds run against you it's 6 hours to get to HNL). If fate puts you on US, then so long as you understand the limitations on food, service, power, IFE, then it's still a valid option since the seat is no worse than AA's 757 and can be an improvement in some respects.
I'd also point out that if you're doing a Trans Atlantic, a Trans Continental and a part Trans Pacific in one day you need to be quite a good flyer to cope with it all! I have had practice on this over the years, but it's still quite knackering. One trip last year I had bad turbulence on all 3 sectors and I did feel I had been thoroughly through the wringer by the time I got to Waikiki!
On the other hand, PHX is a vastly better place to transfer between flights. LAX has been digging up its runway and apron of T4 since I was a child (or so it seems) and the LAX gate handling - never its strong point - can be tiresome. Also AA's crews have a seniority system with knobs on it for HNL, whereas US crews don't have such an embedded set of crews, so you do get some that are not entirely cynical about life.
In other words for a one-off a strong recommendation for AA, on the proviso that it's not a First experience (I'd much rather go Club Europe, if the winds run against you it's 6 hours to get to HNL). If fate puts you on US, then so long as you understand the limitations on food, service, power, IFE, then it's still a valid option since the seat is no worse than AA's 757 and can be an improvement in some respects.
I'd also point out that if you're doing a Trans Atlantic, a Trans Continental and a part Trans Pacific in one day you need to be quite a good flyer to cope with it all! I have had practice on this over the years, but it's still quite knackering. One trip last year I had bad turbulence on all 3 sectors and I did feel I had been thoroughly through the wringer by the time I got to Waikiki!
Oct 2, 2014, 9:31 am
#4373
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
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I work in Hawaii every 2 months or so, and indeed the so-called unconverted 763 (so not the new generation seating which goes on international sectors) very occasionally goes from LAX to HNL. Usually the 763s run the DFW to HNL service and I think I've had a Maui in a 763 too. In the past there was always at least one HNL which was a 763, but it now appears to be the quieter periods when they take one other rotation off, or busy periods when they need the capacity of a wide body. Also they use the DFW-HNL-LAX-HNL-DFW rotation occasionally.
757s are a pig to fly in, and actually I now really dislike the leather beige version, it's not good on the back and the seat width is too wide to be useful, and I'm quite tubby. So give me the cloth version any day, but never the bulkhead seat if wanting to sleep, both types are too cramped. US airways actually have a more comfortable seat, in my view, but typically no power (I need to work on my PC on that sector), and the food/serviice isn't good. But the 763s, even being the old version, is definitely a welcome relief when I see it on the schedule. However don't count your chickens.....
757s are a pig to fly in, and actually I now really dislike the leather beige version, it's not good on the back and the seat width is too wide to be useful, and I'm quite tubby. So give me the cloth version any day, but never the bulkhead seat if wanting to sleep, both types are too cramped. US airways actually have a more comfortable seat, in my view, but typically no power (I need to work on my PC on that sector), and the food/serviice isn't good. But the 763s, even being the old version, is definitely a welcome relief when I see it on the schedule. However don't count your chickens.....
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/ourPl...business-class
Oct 2, 2014, 9:41 am
#4374
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
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AA does not have "uncoverted" 763. All the 763 have the angled lie-flats up front. They used to run them on mid-cons (LAX-DFW) and lesser transcons (SAN-JFK) and I have never seen one without angle lie-flats.
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/ourPl...business-class
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/ourPl...business-class
Oct 2, 2014, 9:44 am
#4375
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
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AA does not have "uncoverted" 763. All the 763 have the angled lie-flats up front. They used to run them on mid-cons (LAX-DFW) and lesser transcons (SAN-JFK) and I have never seen one without angle lie-flats.
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/ourPl...business-class
http://www.aa.com/i18n/aboutUs/ourPl...business-class
Oct 2, 2014, 9:57 am
#4376
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wild Wiltshire
Programs: Demoted to gold, Cats protection
Posts: 3,455
I had 2 very nice flights on US once PHL-CLT and CLT-ATL with a 35 min connection and all went well.
This is a cautionary tale of what can go wrong with US airways and longer itiniaries..............
- There was some delay in the BA flight BRU-LHR so US in BRU decided to rebook me direct BRU-PHL-PHX-ANC , protests and "just get me to LHR and I will sort it" fell on deaf ears
- Then the BRU-PHL was delayed too resulting in crossing the Atlantic in a 757 with no food, when I should have been tucked up on a BA 787
- when I got to PHL my itiniary had not been rebooked "go to the hotel and come back in 8 hours" fair enough at least it was a Sheraton
- Back in 8 hours to find I was booked on the next day flight PHL-PHX and PHX-ANC - looking good, just 16 hours to wait in the airport
- It wasnt until the orange flashing dust and the plane bucking about 4 hours in that I realised the pilot had flown through a haboob- divert to TUS
- After sharing a hotel room with a stranger and getting back to TUS we took the 25 min flight to PHX for some reason I was rebooked in coach
- PHX-ANC one of the most uncomfortable flights of my entire life but managed to arrive exactly 48 hours late
- To top it all US got some coding wrong and my claim for 140 missing TP was denied twice and then lost in the bowels of the system
I travel creative routings all the time, always allow enough connection time and know "stuff happens" but this was a truly exceptional experience
Oct 2, 2014, 10:07 am
#4377
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- After sharing a hotel room with a stranger and getting back to TUS we took the 25 min flight to PHX for some reason I was rebooked in coach
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I travel creative routings all the time, always allow enough connection time and know "stuff happens" but this was a truly exceptional experience
Oct 2, 2014, 10:21 am
#4378
Join Date: Sep 2007
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I did blog it, everyone on here is interested in Hawaii as a final point so I didnt think anyone would be interested in ANC
Start here and read in the "newer posts" direction
http://cazz-onecatshortofcrazy.blogs...late-cats.html
Oct 2, 2014, 10:40 am
#4379
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: London
Programs: BA CCR/GGL, Hilton Diamond
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haha, no
I did blog it, everyone on here is interested in Hawaii as a final point so I didnt think anyone would be interested in ANC
Start here and read in the "newer posts" direction
http://cazz-onecatshortofcrazy.blogs...late-cats.html
I did blog it, everyone on here is interested in Hawaii as a final point so I didnt think anyone would be interested in ANC
Start here and read in the "newer posts" direction
http://cazz-onecatshortofcrazy.blogs...late-cats.html
Does it get any easier looking back on it now, or are you traumatised for life?! The haboob (never heard of one of those before - never want to experience one!) photos look pretty scary!
Oct 2, 2014, 10:50 am
#4380
Join Date: Jul 2010
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 611
Were you able to actually book this anywhere? I can't seem to price it up on aa.com.