GGL partner card rules question
#31
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Austria (Vbg)
Programs: LX SEN, BA Gfl/GGL, IC Dia, HH Dia, Hyatt LT GLOB
Posts: 1,581
I think we'll only find out when the membership year finishes and I assume we certainly need to call in then on behalf of our family/friends/colleagues... Well, I've saved the F&Q just in case...
#32
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: GGLfL
Posts: 1,126
His card has arrived in the post today with an expiry date of April 2014, so a mere 4 months validity, which seems to contravene the advertised benefit.
#33
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: West Coast USA
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 557
Given your nominee's card is printed, I would call (or have them call the Gold line).
#34
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: UK
Programs: Mucci, BA
Posts: 10,103
Here's a question:
Gold member, membership year expires July, will be GGL from February. How long do they have to give the partner cards? One year from February? Only until July?
Thanks
Gold member, membership year expires July, will be GGL from February. How long do they have to give the partner cards? One year from February? Only until July?
Thanks
#35
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,476
#37
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DFW
Programs: AS, BA, AA
Posts: 3,670
8.5. Where a non-Executive Club member is nominated for a discretionary British Airways Gold/Silver card they will receive an e-mail from the Executive Club with details of how to enrol and to provide additional information for their partner card application. This information must be completed by the Nominee within 14 days of receipt, otherwise the nomination will expire.
8.6. On receipt of a satisfactory application form British Airways shall at its discretion issue to the Nominee a discretionary Silver/Gold Partner Card which will be valid for a minimum of 12 months from the date of issue. The discretionary British Airways Silver/Gold card period shall begin from the date of acceptance by British Airways of the Nominee and last for the remainder of the nominating Members membership year, followed by a 12 month period in conjunction with the nominating Members membership year.
8.7. The Nominee should expect to receive their discretionary British Airways Silver/Gold card within 28 days of the date of nomination and acceptance by British Airways.
8.8. Standard booking lead times apply. Members are responsible for paying additional taxes, fees, charges and surcharges.
8.9. Nominees with existing Executive Club membership will commence a new membership year as a Member at the time of issue by British Airways of the new Silver/Gold Partner Card. All current Avios Points will be transferred to the new membership and any existing Executive Club Tier Points will expire other than as Lifetime Tier Points.
8.6. On receipt of a satisfactory application form British Airways shall at its discretion issue to the Nominee a discretionary Silver/Gold Partner Card which will be valid for a minimum of 12 months from the date of issue. The discretionary British Airways Silver/Gold card period shall begin from the date of acceptance by British Airways of the Nominee and last for the remainder of the nominating Members membership year, followed by a 12 month period in conjunction with the nominating Members membership year.
8.7. The Nominee should expect to receive their discretionary British Airways Silver/Gold card within 28 days of the date of nomination and acceptance by British Airways.
8.8. Standard booking lead times apply. Members are responsible for paying additional taxes, fees, charges and surcharges.
8.9. Nominees with existing Executive Club membership will commence a new membership year as a Member at the time of issue by British Airways of the new Silver/Gold Partner Card. All current Avios Points will be transferred to the new membership and any existing Executive Club Tier Points will expire other than as Lifetime Tier Points.
However, it seems that if you nominate someone with an existing EC account, 8.9 applies, and the nominee's status will last exactly 12 months.
Does this sound like a reasonable interpretation, and does this interpretation match up with everyone's recent experience?
#38
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAN and LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC LT Gold, HH Dia, MR LT Plat, IHG Diamond Amb, Amex Plat
Posts: 13,758
I think you are reading the T&C's too literally. Everything I have seen thus far from my own referrals suggests they will get the same status validity as if they had earned it at the time of referral so the balance of their membership year plus 12 months.
This is how the old style gold and silver referral process and earned upgrade process worked. I would be surprised if the IT allowed BA to do this any other way since membership and status years are absolutely fixed.
This is how the old style gold and silver referral process and earned upgrade process worked. I would be surprised if the IT allowed BA to do this any other way since membership and status years are absolutely fixed.
#40
Join Date: Jul 2010
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 611
I think you are reading the T&C's too literally. Everything I have seen thus far from my own referrals suggests they will get the same status validity as if they had earned it at the time of referral so the balance of their membership year plus 12 months.
This is how the old style gold and silver referral process and earned upgrade process worked. I would be surprised if the IT allowed BA to do this any other way since membership and status years are absolutely fixed.
This is how the old style gold and silver referral process and earned upgrade process worked. I would be surprised if the IT allowed BA to do this any other way since membership and status years are absolutely fixed.
On receipt of a satisfactory application form British Airways shall at its discretion issue to the Nominee a discretionary Silver/Gold Partner Card which will be valid for a minimum of 12 months from the date of issue. For Nominees who are existing Executive Club Members, the discretionary British Airways Silver/Gold card period shall begin from the date of acceptance by British Airways of the Nominee and last for the remainder of the Nominee's existing membership year, followed by a 12 month period. For Nominees who are not existing Executive Club Members at time of nomination Silver/Gold cards will be valid for a period of 12 months from the date of acceptance by British Airways of the Nominee.
#41
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: West Coast USA
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 557
Call the GGL number and explain the situation and see what they say. When I called (exactly the same situation although the nominee has not received their card as yet) I was told that their membership is for the remainder of their year and the following year and that the dates on their account can take "6 to 8 weeks to update". They also assured me they could see that their (updated Gold) membership expires in March 2015.
Given your nominee's card is printed, I would call (or have them call the Gold line).
Given your nominee's card is printed, I would call (or have them call the Gold line).
#42
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: GGLfL
Posts: 1,126
I emailed the GGL team (6 Jan), who replied:
"I have sent a message to our fulfilment team asking them if they can explain this. I write will to you again as soon as they get back to me".
Needless to say, no one has contacted me, and the GGL team has not replied (20 days have already passed).
I followed up 3 days ago to the GGL team, asking for an update, and they haven't replied.
#43
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Fareham, UK
Programs: BA GGL+CCR, HHonors Dia, Hyatt Dia
Posts: 273
I think you are reading the T&C's too literally. Everything I have seen thus far from my own referrals suggests they will get the same status validity as if they had earned it at the time of referral so the balance of their membership year plus 12 months.
This is how the old style gold and silver referral process and earned upgrade process worked. I would be surprised if the IT allowed BA to do this any other way since membership and status years are absolutely fixed.
This is how the old style gold and silver referral process and earned upgrade process worked. I would be surprised if the IT allowed BA to do this any other way since membership and status years are absolutely fixed.
I do get the impression however that the recent change has thrown a few issues up with the system and they are trying to sort them out.
#44
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: West Coast USA
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 557
I'm afraid not. His Gold membership still expires in April 2014.
I emailed the GGL team (6 Jan), who replied:
"I have sent a message to our fulfilment team asking them if they can explain this. I write will to you again as soon as they get back to me".
Needless to say, no one has contacted me, and the GGL team has not replied (20 days have already passed).
I followed up 3 days ago to the GGL team, asking for an update, and they haven't replied.
I emailed the GGL team (6 Jan), who replied:
"I have sent a message to our fulfilment team asking them if they can explain this. I write will to you again as soon as they get back to me".
Needless to say, no one has contacted me, and the GGL team has not replied (20 days have already passed).
I followed up 3 days ago to the GGL team, asking for an update, and they haven't replied.
Last edited by TangoOneSeven; Jan 26, 2014 at 2:31 pm Reason: wrong information.
#45
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: GGLfL
Posts: 1,126
So it sounds as if the membership year should roll forward on 9 March (his membership year end) with the Gold status. We'll have to wait and see if that happens automatically on 9 March or not.
What's not clear to me, is whether this extension of his Gold status (to give the benefit of the minimum 12 months status) will mean I have used up my Gold referral for my next membership year, or not.