Is Scottish independence good or bad for British Airways?
Nov 27, 2013, 1:32 pm
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Is Scottish independence good or bad for British Airways?
Is Scottish independence good or bad for British Airways?
My question is limited to how it will or will not affect BA. Please don't turn this into a political discussion. I believe the BA section of the forum does not allow off-topic discussion.
My question is limited to how it will or will not affect BA. Please don't turn this into a political discussion. I believe the BA section of the forum does not allow off-topic discussion.
Nov 27, 2013, 1:37 pm
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Bad - due to the cost of re-painting all the tails with the St George's flag and renaming itself London Airways
Nov 27, 2013, 1:42 pm
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If just 10% of the population of England move to Scotland in time for the vote, the outcome will probably be very different? (considering Scotland only makes up about less than 10% of the UK's entire population)
Nov 27, 2013, 1:47 pm
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Good: The increased economic and administrative activity in Edinburgh and Glasgow will lead to increased demand to travel to these cities; BA is in the driving seat to mop this up.
Bad: A Scottish Government with control of APD and other relevant taxes will be more inclined to set them at a rate which encourages more airlines and routes to fly from Scotland.
Bad: A Scottish Government with control of APD and other relevant taxes will be more inclined to set them at a rate which encourages more airlines and routes to fly from Scotland.
Nov 27, 2013, 1:51 pm
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Very difficult to guess or even consider the effect on corporate deals. I am thinking RBS which is currently majority owned by the UK taxpayer. Ultimately people will need to travel and while it is possible to fly with a Scottish carrier, there are only so many holidays and business meetings one can have in Benbecula or Tiree
Brazen nationalists don't fly BA anyway, out of principle, or travel at all for that matter. We'll no be paying out our Scottish pounds to an English company. Agnes, I'd rather naw my leg off and take the Perth owned OmegaBus that fly on that London Airways.
Brazen nationalists don't fly BA anyway, out of principle, or travel at all for that matter. We'll no be paying out our Scottish pounds to an English company. Agnes, I'd rather naw my leg off and take the Perth owned OmegaBus that fly on that London Airways.
Nov 27, 2013, 1:52 pm
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Good: The increased economic and administrative activity in Edinburgh and Glasgow will lead to increased demand to travel to these cities; BA is in the driving seat to mop this up.
Bad: A Scottish Government with control of APD and other relevant taxes will be more inclined to set them at a rate which encourages more airlines and routes to fly from Scotland.
Bad: A Scottish Government with control of APD and other relevant taxes will be more inclined to set them at a rate which encourages more airlines and routes to fly from Scotland.
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Nov 27, 2013, 1:59 pm
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Wasn't that long ago when a number of short haul BA aircraft, often used on domestics had the tartan tail fins....
Scottish independence may encourage the re-Instatement of flights to Inverness, which will shortly lose the ability to through ticket on to BA services via LGW and KLM services via AMS, attracting more passengers to the region.
Scottish independence may encourage the re-Instatement of flights to Inverness, which will shortly lose the ability to through ticket on to BA services via LGW and KLM services via AMS, attracting more passengers to the region.
Nov 27, 2013, 2:19 pm
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I think the APD rate would affect BA the most. If flying from Scotland via London to somewhere nice is cheaper than from Newcastle, then people would travel into Scotland. This effect is already shown in Ireland.
I cant see how the new UK would allow Scotland to have low restrictions of people coming into the country. England wil have to set up a new entry point. This could disrupt people and their trips.
Finances, we haven't been told what currency they will have. The strength of any exchange rate will affect BA. The SNP think its the pound, both English parties have said no to this. If the Euro is taken then it would be normal like France, if not how will they pay.
I am not really sure Scotland will change much more than it is at the moment. I don't see why companies would move to Scotland. So EDI and GLA wouldn't necessary expand.
I cant see how the new UK would allow Scotland to have low restrictions of people coming into the country. England wil have to set up a new entry point. This could disrupt people and their trips.
Finances, we haven't been told what currency they will have. The strength of any exchange rate will affect BA. The SNP think its the pound, both English parties have said no to this. If the Euro is taken then it would be normal like France, if not how will they pay.
I am not really sure Scotland will change much more than it is at the moment. I don't see why companies would move to Scotland. So EDI and GLA wouldn't necessary expand.
Nov 27, 2013, 2:25 pm
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why isn't there a simultaneous referendum in England, Wales, and/or Northern Ireland? UK voters(excluding Scotland residents) should be allowed to vote on whether or not to expel forthwith the residents of Scotland from the kingdom? ...like when Singapore had no choice to become independent when it was expelled from Malaysia
Nov 27, 2013, 2:28 pm
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Due to tradition.....on Sunday departures from Scotland it'll become mandatory for BA to provide the on board fry-up breakfast until 2pm.....Irn Bru must be available for those with a drooth.
Nov 27, 2013, 2:29 pm
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It's all academic. Ain't happening.
Nov 27, 2013, 2:32 pm
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I'd meant to download the PDFs and have a scan through, so this is a good excuse 
From the summary document:
From the main (690 page) document:
Also, some stuff about ATC, accident investigation, passports and CTA, currency, etc.
From the summary document:
Originally Posted by SNP
Gains from independence – if we are the first government
of an independent Scotland
...
Reduction in Air Passenger Duty by 50 per cent, with a view to
abolishing it when public finances allow
...
of an independent Scotland
...
Reduction in Air Passenger Duty by 50 per cent, with a view to
abolishing it when public finances allow
...
Originally Posted by SNP
A recent study estimated that APD will cost Scotland more
than Ł200 million a year in lost tourism spend alone by 201683.
We plan to reduce APD by 50 per cent in the first term of the
independent parliament, with a view to abolishing it when public
finances allow.
As an independent nation, Scotland will be better placed to
work with airport, airline, tourism and other partners to sustain
network development activity in long-haul markets, as part
of a Team Scotland approach. The Irish Government has for
example struck a deal with Customs Authorities in the US to
allow passengers travelling through airports in Ireland to clear
passport control before boarding the plane.
than Ł200 million a year in lost tourism spend alone by 201683.
We plan to reduce APD by 50 per cent in the first term of the
independent parliament, with a view to abolishing it when public
finances allow.
As an independent nation, Scotland will be better placed to
work with airport, airline, tourism and other partners to sustain
network development activity in long-haul markets, as part
of a Team Scotland approach. The Irish Government has for
example struck a deal with Customs Authorities in the US to
allow passengers travelling through airports in Ireland to clear
passport control before boarding the plane.
Also, some stuff about ATC, accident investigation, passports and CTA, currency, etc.
Last edited by dunk; Nov 27, 2013 at 2:38 pm
Nov 27, 2013, 2:51 pm
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now that I think about it, why not a new Scottish Airways?(with male flight attendants wearing kilts)
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Nov 27, 2013, 2:52 pm
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now that I think about it, why not a new Scottish Airways?(with male flight attendants wearing kilts)
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BTW before people start going 'huzzah APD down 50% from Scotland' should remember that prices did not go down when it was eliminated on the UA/CO Belfast - NYC flight !
Nov 27, 2013, 2:52 pm
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Indeed...hence my rather tongue in cheek reply above.
It's all the rage in the media over here you know. I keep being asked questions about how it'll affect me if they vote yes. Will I get a new Scottish passport? Will the English be turned away at the Scottish border if they don't have a visa? Will I be turned away at the English border if I don't have a visa? Will I be forced to wear a kilt when I go back?
It's all the rage in the media over here you know. I keep being asked questions about how it'll affect me if they vote yes. Will I get a new Scottish passport? Will the English be turned away at the Scottish border if they don't have a visa? Will I be turned away at the English border if I don't have a visa? Will I be forced to wear a kilt when I go back?
