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BA FLEET: NEW AIRCRAFT ARRIVALS AND RETIREMENTS WIKI
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
- Projected Fleet
- New Arrivals
- Retrofits
- Retirements
- Historical Fleet
(Click on the aircraft type, where there is a link, to go to the relevant details in this wikipost.)
Projected Fleet
This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers at year end 2022.
Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet
Shorthaul
• A319: 9 (38 currently in fleet)
• A320ceo: 67 (67 currently in fleet)
• A320neo: 22 (12 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 14 (14 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 13 (9 currently in fleet)
Midhaul
• A321: 4 (4 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (6 currently in fleet)
• A380: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B747-400: 12 (30 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 8 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 9 (2 currently in fleet)
London City Fleet
Shorthaul
• E170 / E190: 28 (24 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A318: 1 (1 currently in fleet)
New Arrivals
Airbus A320ceo: Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.
Airbus A320neo: 35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s.
G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Delivered on 27 Feb 2020
G-TTNL - Delivered on 09 Mar 2020
G-TTNM - Due in May 2020?
G-TTNN - Due in Jul 2020
G-TTNO - Due in Sep 2020
G-TTNP - Due in 2020
G-TTNR -
G-TTNS -
G-TTNT -
G-TTNU -
G-TTNV -
G-TTNW -
Airbus A321neo:
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-NEOZ - Delivered on 17 Mar 2020
G-NEOY - Due in May 2020?
G-TNEA -
G-TNEB -
G-TNEC -
Airbus A350: BA ordered 18 A350-1000s for delivery between 2019 and 2021. They will all be based at LHR are being delivered as 3-class in a 56J/56W/219Y configuration. Deliveries started in July 2019.
G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-XWBE - Delivered on 12 Feb 2020
G-XWBF - Delivered on 20 May 2020
G-XWBG - Due in Jun 2020
G-XWBH - Due in Jul 2020
G-XWBI - Due in Oct 2020
G-XWBJ - Due in Jan 2021
G-XWBK - Due in Feb 2021
G-XWBL -
G-XWBM -
G-XWBN -
G-XWBO -
G-XWBP -
G-XWBR -
G-XWBS -
Airbus A380: Twelve A380s were delivered between July 2013 and June 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 777-300ER: Six 777-300ERs were delivered between September 2013 and August 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018. These final four are due to be delivered from Q3 2020.
G-STBM - Due in Jul 2020?
G-STBN - Due in Aug 2020?
G-STBO - Due in 2020
G-STBP - Due in 2020
Boeing 777-9: In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration. The 777-9s on order will be used to replace 14 Boeing 747-400 and four Boeing 777-200ER between 2022 and 2025.
Boeing 787-8: Twelve 787-8s were delivered between June 2013 and November 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-9: Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between September 2015 and June 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-10: BA has 12 787-10s on order to be delivered between 2020 and 2023: Each aircraft will be fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.
G-ZBLA - Due 24th May 2020
G-ZBLB - Due in Jun 2020
G-ZBLC - Due in Aug 2020
G-ZBLD - Due in 2020
G-ZBLE - Due in 2020
G-ZBLF - Due in 2020
G-ZBLG - Due in 2021
G-ZBLH - Due in 2021
G-ZBLI - Due in 2022
G-ZBLJ - Due in 2023
G-ZBLK - Due in 2023
G-ZBLL - Due in 2023
Embraer 190: Three more new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and September 2014. Details are archived here. Seven second hand aircraft have since been sourced. Two more are due in 2020.
G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYX - Delivered on 10 Jul 2016
G-LCYY - Delivered on 22 Dec 2017
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Due into service June 2020 (currently at WAW)
G-LCAD - Due in June / July 2020? (currently at CAN)
G-LCAE
G-LCAF
G-LCAG
G-LCAH
Retrofits
A320ceo:
The A320ceos currently based at LHR are being reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE, (unlike the A320neos).
There are currently 55 completed.
Completed (CY180):
G-EUUA/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-EUYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y
G-MEDK
G-MIDO/S/T/X/Y
G-TTOB/E
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Madrid:
G-EUUB/C
A321ceo (Completed):
All 14 shorthaul frames have now been reconfigured from a CY205 to a CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neos). The four midhaul frames remain unchanged in a 23J/131Y layout.
Boeing 777-200ER:
For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
LGW Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do notfeature the new Club World seat. This commenced in January 2018.
There are currently 14 completed.
Completed (32J/52W/252Y): G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed (32J/48W/252Y): G-YMMB/C/D/E/F
Completed (14F/48J/40W/136Y): G-VIIV/W/Y
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at
Cardiff:
None
LHR Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in August 2019.
There are currently 6 completed.
Completed (8F/49J/40W/138Y): G-VIIB/K/L/M/N, G-RAES
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff
G-VIIF - Arrived at CWL on 14 April
G-VIIA - Arrived at CWL on 25 April
Boeing 777-300ER:
Cabin retrofit to commence in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World seat.
Retirement
With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for scrapping. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since then most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping. Recent 747 retirements have been to Kemble (GBA) in England for scrapping.
Airbus A319:
G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019
G-EUPE - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOC - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOD - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
The next to be retired (subject to change) are:
G-EUPA - Due to be withdrawn in Sep 2020
G-EUPC - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2020
G-EUPB - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2021
G-EUPF - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPH - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPJ - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPK - Due to be withdrawn in Aug 2022
G-EUOE - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
G-EUOF - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
Airbus A320:
G-TTOB - Due to be withdrawn in Feb 2022
Boeing 747-400: As of 27 April 2020, 29 747-400s have been retired from the original fleet of 57, leaving 30 aircraft in service. Of those remaining, 17 are "super high-J" aircraft (14F / 86J / 30W / 145Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). The remaining 11 aircraft are "mid-J" aircraft. (14F / 52J / 36W / 235Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). All remaining aircraft have been refurbished.
The current plan is for all aircraft to be retired by February 2024. According to the Capital Markets Day presentation in November 2019, BA plan to have the following amount of 747s in the fleet at year end:
- 2020: 25 aircraft
- 2021: 20 aircraft
- 2022: 12 aircraft
- 2023: 3 aircraft
Since then the following have been retired:
G-BNLN - Retired to DGX on 24 Jun 2019
G-CIVG - Retired to DGX on 25 Nov 2019
G-CIVM - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
G-CIVL - Retired to GBA 14 Apr 2020
G-CIVJ - Retired to GBA 15 Apr 2020
G-CIVN - Retired to GBA on 16 Apr 2020
For a further analysis of the fleet and retirement plans: see Globaliser's tracker.
The last known planned dates of the next retirements were as follows (but should all be regarded as subject to change). All the retirements will be of the "mid-J" configuration unless stated otherwise.
G-CIVI - Due to be retired in Apr 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVD - Due to be retired in May 2020
G-CIVH - Due to be retired in Jun 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVK - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVF - Due to be retired in Jun 2021 [super high-J]
G-CIVB - Due to be retired in 2022
G-CIVC - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-CIVE - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-BYGC - Due to be retired in 2023 [super high-J]
G-BNLY - Due to be retired in 2023
Boeing 777-200:
G-ZZZC - Retired to DGX on 13 Jan 2020
G-ZZZA - Due to be retired in Sep 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 19 Mar 2020]
G-ZZZB - Due to be retired in Oct 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 20 Mar 2020]
Embraer 170:
G-LCYE - Retired to WAW on 07 May 2020
Historical Fleet
Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.
Boeing 767: The last remaining 767 was retired in Nov 2018. Details are archived here.
BA Fleet : New aircraft arrivals and retirements master tracker
Oct 10, 2018, 12:39 pm
#2521
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AFAIK There is no rumour for 1-2-1 in J. An updated, most likely 2-4-2 but with direct aisle access. There are other threads on this. The configuration is broadly irrelevant in terms of quality and depends how you number the seats. For example EK A380 and UA Polaris could be considered 2-4-2 or 1-2-1 depending on how you number the seats. Purely marketing and public perception in that regard.
The A350 are confirmed to have two configurations. A 3 class and 4 class. There are many options though. They could both be very premium heavy but one without F or indeed the 3 class could be very Y heavy for the capacity. I don't think that has been confimed, let alone rumored yet.
The A350 are confirmed to have two configurations. A 3 class and 4 class. There are many options though. They could both be very premium heavy but one without F or indeed the 3 class could be very Y heavy for the capacity. I don't think that has been confimed, let alone rumored yet.
I know what you’re getting at with United Polaris and Emirates due to the seat design but they are clearly 1-2-1.
Oct 10, 2018, 1:17 pm
#2522
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I have heard through someone internally at BA it will be a 1-2-1 configuration with direct aisle access (obviously) built by the same people who makes the super diamond seat. And that’s not even the main source for that rumour, this is: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.p...lass-seat/amp/
I know what you’re getting at with United Polaris and Emirates due to the seat design but they are clearly 1-2-1.
Oct 10, 2018, 1:21 pm
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Oct 10, 2018, 1:50 pm
#2524
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Emirates is certainly not a 2-4-2. A dense 1-2-1 granted, but it is not comparable to 2-4-2 club in anyway at all.
I’ve flown both (club as recently as Monday) and there’s a massive difference.
I’ve flown both (club as recently as Monday) and there’s a massive difference.
Oct 10, 2018, 2:15 pm
#2525
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I dont get get your point. 1-2-1 is reverse herringbone layouts mainly. Emirates A380 is as much of a 2-4-2 as BA. Granted EK has direct aisle access though.
Oct 10, 2018, 2:25 pm
#2526
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Therefor mathematically Emirates is about 7.5% more dense than BAs layout. It is most definitely comparable.
Oct 10, 2018, 2:58 pm
#2527
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FYI Emirates is mathematically more dense than BA. On the upper deck of the A380 between Doors 1&2 Emirates has 56 seats. BA in the same space could fit 52 (replacing the same pitch numbers of WTP result in three more rows by the windows and 4 down the centre.
Therefor mathematically Emirates is about 7.5% more dense than BAs layout. It is most definitely comparable.
Therefor mathematically Emirates is about 7.5% more dense than BAs layout. It is most definitely comparable.
Oct 10, 2018, 2:59 pm
#2528
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FYI Emirates is mathematically more dense than BA. On the upper deck of the A380 between Doors 1&2 Emirates has 56 seats. BA in the same space could fit 52 (replacing the same pitch numbers of WTP result in three more rows by the windows and 4 down the centre.
Therefor mathematically Emirates is about 7.5% more dense than BAs layout. It is most definitely comparable.
Therefor mathematically Emirates is about 7.5% more dense than BAs layout. It is most definitely comparable.
Oct 10, 2018, 3:02 pm
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Into that space EK fits 56 seats (although I hav en't checked this myself).
I don't know how the first calculation has been made; but if that hypothetical is accurate, then surely these would be directly comparable numbers?
Oct 10, 2018, 3:03 pm
#2530
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You didn’t read my post then. BETWEEN DOORS 1 & 2 on upper deck only for a fair comparison. Ignored in from where EK F and showers are and also the back where BA has Y and EK has more J and a Bar. EK is more sense than BA catagorically.
Oct 10, 2018, 3:07 pm
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As I understand the point, it is that if CW were fitted throughout the entire space between UD doors 1 and 2 (which is currently shared by CW rows 56-59 and WT+), there would be 52 CW seats there.
Into that space EK fits 56 seats (although I hav en't checked this myself).
I don't know how the first calculation has been made; but if that hypothetical is accurate, then surely these would be directly comparable numbers?
Into that space EK fits 56 seats (although I hav en't checked this myself).
I don't know how the first calculation has been made; but if that hypothetical is accurate, then surely these would be directly comparable numbers?
For the record QR with a reverse herringbone 1-2-1 has 48 seats in the same space so we are not talking about much difference between true 1-2-1, and various 2-4-2 configs.
QR: 48, BA: 52, EK: 56
Oct 11, 2018, 6:18 am
#2532
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You may find the wiki on this thread useful:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...ly-2018-a.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...ly-2018-a.html
Thanks I've quite often read read that thread -don't know how I managed to miss all the relevant info on the wiki part until just now though !
Oct 11, 2018, 2:46 pm
#2533
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Any chance someone could edit the wiki...
Fairly sure it's a couple less than 44...
Boeing 787: BA has 44 on order for delivery from Jun 2013 through 2021.
Oct 11, 2018, 2:50 pm
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Oct 11, 2018, 3:08 pm
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I haven't checked every version since then, but a dip sample suggests that it may have been "44" ever since.
Anyway, I've edited it back to "42" now.