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BA FLEET: NEW AIRCRAFT ARRIVALS AND RETIREMENTS WIKI
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
- Projected Fleet
- New Arrivals
- Retrofits
- Retirements
- Historical Fleet
(Click on the aircraft type, where there is a link, to go to the relevant details in this wikipost.)
Projected Fleet
This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers at year end 2022.
Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet
Shorthaul
• A319: 9 (38 currently in fleet)
• A320ceo: 67 (67 currently in fleet)
• A320neo: 22 (12 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 14 (14 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 13 (9 currently in fleet)
Midhaul
• A321: 4 (4 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (6 currently in fleet)
• A380: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B747-400: 12 (30 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 8 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 9 (2 currently in fleet)
London City Fleet
Shorthaul
• E170 / E190: 28 (24 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A318: 1 (1 currently in fleet)
New Arrivals
Airbus A320ceo: Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.
Airbus A320neo: 35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s.
G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Delivered on 27 Feb 2020
G-TTNL - Delivered on 09 Mar 2020
G-TTNM - Due in May 2020?
G-TTNN - Due in Jul 2020
G-TTNO - Due in Sep 2020
G-TTNP - Due in 2020
G-TTNR -
G-TTNS -
G-TTNT -
G-TTNU -
G-TTNV -
G-TTNW -
Airbus A321neo:
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-NEOZ - Delivered on 17 Mar 2020
G-NEOY - Due in May 2020?
G-TNEA -
G-TNEB -
G-TNEC -
Airbus A350: BA ordered 18 A350-1000s for delivery between 2019 and 2021. They will all be based at LHR are being delivered as 3-class in a 56J/56W/219Y configuration. Deliveries started in July 2019.
G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-XWBE - Delivered on 12 Feb 2020
G-XWBF - Delivered on 20 May 2020
G-XWBG - Due in Jun 2020
G-XWBH - Due in Jul 2020
G-XWBI - Due in Oct 2020
G-XWBJ - Due in Jan 2021
G-XWBK - Due in Feb 2021
G-XWBL -
G-XWBM -
G-XWBN -
G-XWBO -
G-XWBP -
G-XWBR -
G-XWBS -
Airbus A380: Twelve A380s were delivered between July 2013 and June 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 777-300ER: Six 777-300ERs were delivered between September 2013 and August 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018. These final four are due to be delivered from Q3 2020.
G-STBM - Due in Jul 2020?
G-STBN - Due in Aug 2020?
G-STBO - Due in 2020
G-STBP - Due in 2020
Boeing 777-9: In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration. The 777-9s on order will be used to replace 14 Boeing 747-400 and four Boeing 777-200ER between 2022 and 2025.
Boeing 787-8: Twelve 787-8s were delivered between June 2013 and November 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-9: Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between September 2015 and June 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-10: BA has 12 787-10s on order to be delivered between 2020 and 2023: Each aircraft will be fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.
G-ZBLA - Due 24th May 2020
G-ZBLB - Due in Jun 2020
G-ZBLC - Due in Aug 2020
G-ZBLD - Due in 2020
G-ZBLE - Due in 2020
G-ZBLF - Due in 2020
G-ZBLG - Due in 2021
G-ZBLH - Due in 2021
G-ZBLI - Due in 2022
G-ZBLJ - Due in 2023
G-ZBLK - Due in 2023
G-ZBLL - Due in 2023
Embraer 190: Three more new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and September 2014. Details are archived here. Seven second hand aircraft have since been sourced. Two more are due in 2020.
G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYX - Delivered on 10 Jul 2016
G-LCYY - Delivered on 22 Dec 2017
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Due into service June 2020 (currently at WAW)
G-LCAD - Due in June / July 2020? (currently at CAN)
G-LCAE
G-LCAF
G-LCAG
G-LCAH
Retrofits
A320ceo:
The A320ceos currently based at LHR are being reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE, (unlike the A320neos).
There are currently 55 completed.
Completed (CY180):
G-EUUA/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-EUYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y
G-MEDK
G-MIDO/S/T/X/Y
G-TTOB/E
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Madrid:
G-EUUB/C
A321ceo (Completed):
All 14 shorthaul frames have now been reconfigured from a CY205 to a CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neos). The four midhaul frames remain unchanged in a 23J/131Y layout.
Boeing 777-200ER:
For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
LGW Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do notfeature the new Club World seat. This commenced in January 2018.
There are currently 14 completed.
Completed (32J/52W/252Y): G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed (32J/48W/252Y): G-YMMB/C/D/E/F
Completed (14F/48J/40W/136Y): G-VIIV/W/Y
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at
Cardiff:
None
LHR Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in August 2019.
There are currently 6 completed.
Completed (8F/49J/40W/138Y): G-VIIB/K/L/M/N, G-RAES
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff
G-VIIF - Arrived at CWL on 14 April
G-VIIA - Arrived at CWL on 25 April
Boeing 777-300ER:
Cabin retrofit to commence in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World seat.
Retirement
With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for scrapping. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since then most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping. Recent 747 retirements have been to Kemble (GBA) in England for scrapping.
Airbus A319:
G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019
G-EUPE - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOC - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOD - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
The next to be retired (subject to change) are:
G-EUPA - Due to be withdrawn in Sep 2020
G-EUPC - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2020
G-EUPB - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2021
G-EUPF - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPH - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPJ - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPK - Due to be withdrawn in Aug 2022
G-EUOE - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
G-EUOF - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
Airbus A320:
G-TTOB - Due to be withdrawn in Feb 2022
Boeing 747-400: As of 27 April 2020, 29 747-400s have been retired from the original fleet of 57, leaving 30 aircraft in service. Of those remaining, 17 are "super high-J" aircraft (14F / 86J / 30W / 145Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). The remaining 11 aircraft are "mid-J" aircraft. (14F / 52J / 36W / 235Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). All remaining aircraft have been refurbished.
The current plan is for all aircraft to be retired by February 2024. According to the Capital Markets Day presentation in November 2019, BA plan to have the following amount of 747s in the fleet at year end:
- 2020: 25 aircraft
- 2021: 20 aircraft
- 2022: 12 aircraft
- 2023: 3 aircraft
Since then the following have been retired:
G-BNLN - Retired to DGX on 24 Jun 2019
G-CIVG - Retired to DGX on 25 Nov 2019
G-CIVM - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
G-CIVL - Retired to GBA 14 Apr 2020
G-CIVJ - Retired to GBA 15 Apr 2020
G-CIVN - Retired to GBA on 16 Apr 2020
For a further analysis of the fleet and retirement plans: see Globaliser's tracker.
The last known planned dates of the next retirements were as follows (but should all be regarded as subject to change). All the retirements will be of the "mid-J" configuration unless stated otherwise.
G-CIVI - Due to be retired in Apr 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVD - Due to be retired in May 2020
G-CIVH - Due to be retired in Jun 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVK - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVF - Due to be retired in Jun 2021 [super high-J]
G-CIVB - Due to be retired in 2022
G-CIVC - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-CIVE - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-BYGC - Due to be retired in 2023 [super high-J]
G-BNLY - Due to be retired in 2023
Boeing 777-200:
G-ZZZC - Retired to DGX on 13 Jan 2020
G-ZZZA - Due to be retired in Sep 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 19 Mar 2020]
G-ZZZB - Due to be retired in Oct 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 20 Mar 2020]
Embraer 170:
G-LCYE - Retired to WAW on 07 May 2020
Historical Fleet
Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.
Boeing 767: The last remaining 767 was retired in Nov 2018. Details are archived here.
BA Fleet : New aircraft arrivals and retirements master tracker
Aug 9, 2018, 1:28 am
#2326
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Aug 9, 2018, 1:52 am
#2327
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Heard the 787-10's will be getting Rockwell Colin's Super Diamond's with doors, aka Element: https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2018/0...-a-door-on-it/
Last edited by FlyerTalker39574; Aug 9, 2018 at 4:55 am
Aug 9, 2018, 2:00 am
#2328
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Aug 9, 2018, 9:22 am
#2329
Join Date: Apr 2018
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@RDWRER, let me welcome you to Flyertalk and welcome you to the BA forum. I hope we will see more of you here. And for anyone not sure of the Chatham Dockyard Union Flag, that means this (on a more magnificent aircraft, though not the winglets):
For those interested, you wouldn't be far off the money with the new CW if you guessed "herringbone, 1-2-1, with doors"
Aug 9, 2018, 10:17 am
#2330
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New bedding, upgraded food, better seat (potentially than F!) all in CW ... why go F? LPGS? Someone to make your bed? CCR? Are those items worth $2000+?
I'd always kind of assumed BA would move to an open concept in J and then a closed suite concept in F.
Aug 9, 2018, 10:26 am
#2331
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 35
Well - if it does end up being that (and not doubting you at all - but we've seen a lot of theories and plans in the last couple of years) - then that is going to make a justification for F very hard indeed.
New bedding, upgraded food, better seat (potentially than F!) all in CW ... why go F? LPGS? Someone to make your bed? CCR? Are those items worth $2000+?
I'd always kind of assumed BA would move to an open concept in J and then a closed suite concept in F.
New bedding, upgraded food, better seat (potentially than F!) all in CW ... why go F? LPGS? Someone to make your bed? CCR? Are those items worth $2000+?
I'd always kind of assumed BA would move to an open concept in J and then a closed suite concept in F.
Expect smaller F cabins (more personal) and more "soft" improvements. AFAIK there are no concrete plans for new F seats just yet. But smaller cabins, more personalised service, that kind of fluffy stuff, can be changed pretty instantly and will be next year with new CW on the A350. In any case, all will be revealed when it's revealed... Expect to see lots of news from BA in 2019 with the centenary celebrations - new aircraft, new uniform, new TV ads, new CW. We'll see how it all turns out.
Aug 9, 2018, 10:29 am
#2333
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Indeed, you're not the only one thinking "Okay, so why fly F now?". It's a concern, but only a small cabin - and getting smaller:
Expect smaller F cabins (more personal) and more "soft" improvements. AFAIK there are no concrete plans for new F seats just yet. But smaller cabins, more personalised service, that kind of fluffy stuff, can be changed pretty instantly and will be next year with new CW on the A350. In any case, all will be revealed when it's revealed... Expect to see lots of news from BA in 2019 with the centenary celebrations - new aircraft, new uniform, new TV ads, new CW. We'll see how it all turns out.
Expect smaller F cabins (more personal) and more "soft" improvements. AFAIK there are no concrete plans for new F seats just yet. But smaller cabins, more personalised service, that kind of fluffy stuff, can be changed pretty instantly and will be next year with new CW on the A350. In any case, all will be revealed when it's revealed... Expect to see lots of news from BA in 2019 with the centenary celebrations - new aircraft, new uniform, new TV ads, new CW. We'll see how it all turns out.
Aug 9, 2018, 10:38 am
#2334
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So there seems to be recognition of the "pressure" this could put on F sales.
Aug 9, 2018, 11:00 am
#2335
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I recall this was touched on at a breakfast with Alex Cruz event a few months ago - see this excellent report by msm2000uk: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/show...8&postcount=45
So there seems to be recognition of the "pressure" this could put on F sales.
So there seems to be recognition of the "pressure" this could put on F sales.
I just hadn't imagined they'd go with a closed suite in J.
Closed suite in J ... open suite in F ... until the new-new-CW rollout is complete (according to the post you linked to). And then the upgraded CW experience ...
Could be fatal to F unless they make some major soft product upgrades - and I'm not sure what they could offer to make the price difference worth it.
Aug 9, 2018, 12:01 pm
#2336
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Whilst it's disappointing, and I agree that it blurs the lines between Club and First, the reasons for not doing an all-new First are, in no particular order: 1) the need to focus on one part of the cabin at the time, and to give Club the attention it deserves (screw up, and you've screwed the airline, really); 2) too much change at the same time (implementing a new seat is a fairly large project, and the team that looks after these projects is maxed out). I've long been an advocate of doing less, but better, and it's better to do one seat well than to half-arse two; 3) it's bloody expensive, and changing Club is more urgent; 4) I think there's some more strategic thinking going on with First. A couple of years ago it seemed that First was due to be gone from all 777s, then it wasn't... I think the eggheads are trying to decide 'what' First needs to be looking like to avoid finding themselves missing on the money or having wasted it. Plus, remember it's BA. If a baby takes 9 months to be made, a BAby takes at least 12.
This is all my opinion, and not BA.
Aug 9, 2018, 12:24 pm
#2338
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Is it known that the A350-1000 are coming without a First cabin?
Aug 9, 2018, 12:37 pm
#2339
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I did think at one point BA may of gone for the apex suites like on Oman air.
Aug 9, 2018, 12:54 pm
#2340
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I don’t know about the B787-10 but I was told the A350-1000 initial deliveries won’t have a First cabin.