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BA FLEET: NEW AIRCRAFT ARRIVALS AND RETIREMENTS WIKI

BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft have enabled BA to retire the 767 and old 737 fleets, although the 737 MAX looks likely to appear in the fleet from 2023. and will eventually allow the retirement of the 747 fleet plus the addition of new routes, both short-haul and long-haul. BA have not yet announced the replacement aircraft for the majority of their 777-200ERs which are approaching retirement age.

This Wiki has been divided into:
  • Projected Fleet
    • New Arrivals
      • Retrofits
        • Retirements
          • Historical Fleet

(Click on the aircraft type, where there is a link, to go to the relevant details in this wikipost.)


Projected Fleet

This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers at year end 2022.

Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet

Shorthaul
• A319: 9 (39 currently in fleet)
• A320ceo: 67 (67 currently in fleet)
• A320neo: 22 (10 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 14 (14 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 13 (7 currently in fleet)

Midhaul
• A321: 4 (4 currently in fleet)

Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (3 currently in fleet)
• A380: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B747-400: 12 (32 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 8 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 9 (0 currently in fleet)

London City Fleet

Shorthaul
• E170 / E190: 28 (24 currently in fleet)

Longhaul
• A318: 1 (1 currently in fleet)


New Arrivals

Airbus A320ceo: Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.


Airbus A320neo: 35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s.

G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Due in Jan 2020
G-TTNL - Due in Feb 2020
G-TTNM - Due in Apr 2020
G-TTNN - Due in Jul 2020
G-TTNO - Due in Sep 2020
G-TTNP - Due in 2020
G-TTNR -
G-TTNS -
G-TTNT -
G-TTNU -
G-TTNV -
G-TTNW -


Airbus A321neo:

G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Due in 2019
G-NEOY - Due in 2019
G-NEOZ - Due in 2020
G-TNEA -
G-TNEB -
G-TNEC -


Airbus A350: BA ordered 18 A350-1000s for delivery between 2019 and 2021. They will all be based at LHR are being delivered as 3-class in a 56J/56W/219Y configuration. Deliveries started in July 2019.

G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Due in TBA (Damaged TLS)
G-XWBE - Due in Jan 2020
G-XWBF - Due in Mar 2020
G-XWBG - Due in Jun 2020
G-XWBH - Due in Jul 2020
G-XWBI - Due in Oct 2020
G-XWBJ - Due in Jan 2021
G-XWBK - Due in Feb 2021
G-XWBL -
G-XWBM -
G-XWBN -
G-XWBO -
G-XWBP -
G-XWBR -
G-XWBS -


Airbus A380: Twelve A380s were delivered between Jul 2013 and Jun 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.


Boeing 777-300ER: Six 777-300ERs were delivered between Sep 2013 and Aug 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018. These final four are due to be delivered from Q3 2020.

G-STBM - Due in Q3 2020 (possibly July)
G-STBN - Due in 2020 (possibly August)
G-STBO - Due in 2020
G-STBP - Due in 2020


Boeing 777-9: In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration. The 777-9s on order will be used to replace 14 Boeing 747-400 and four Boeing 777-200ER between 2022 and 2025.


Boeing 787-8: Twelve 787-8s were delivered between Jun 2013 and Nov 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.


Boeing 787-9: Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between Sep 2015 and Jun 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.


Boeing 787-10: BA has 12 787-10s on order to be delivered between 2020 and 2023: Each aircraft will be fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.


G-ZBLA - Due in Jan 2020
G-ZBLB - Due in 2020
G-ZBLC - Due in 2020
G-ZBLD - Due in 2020
G-ZBLE - Due in 2020
G-ZBLF - Due in 2020
G-ZBLG - Due in 2021
G-ZBLH - Due in 2021
G-ZBLI - Due in 2022
G-ZBLJ - Due in 2023
G-ZBLK - Due in 2023
G-ZBLL - Due in 2023


Embraer 190: Three more new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and Sep 2014. Details are archived here. Seven second hand aircraft have since been sourced. Two more are due in 2019.

G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYX - Delivered on 10 Jul 2016
G-LCYY - Delivered on 22 Dec 2017
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Due in 2019
G-LCAD - Due in 2019



Retrofits

A320ceo:

The A320ceos currently based at LHR are being reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE, (unlike the A320neos). There are currently 34 completed.

Completed (CY180):

G-EUUI/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-EUYA/B/C/D/E/H/J/K/M/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y
G-MEDK
G-MIDO/S/T/X/Y

The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Madrid:

G-EUUD
G-EUUH
G-EUYF


A321ceo (COMPLETED):

All 14 shorthaul frames have now been reconfigured from a CY205 to a CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neos). The four midhaul frames remain unchanged in a 23J/131Y layout.

Completed (CY218):

G-EUXC/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M
G-MEDL/M/N

Boeing 777-200ER: For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html

Cabin retrofit of LGW 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do not feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in January 2018. There are currently 12 completed.

Completed (32J/52W/252Y): G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed (32J/48W/252Y): G-YMMB/C/D/F
Completed (14F/48J/40W/136Y): G-VIIV/W/Y

The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff:

G-YMME


Cabin retrofit of LHR 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in August 2019. There is currently 1 completed.

Completed (8F/49J/40W/138Y): G-RAES

The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff

None


Boeing 777-300ER:

Cabin retrofit to commence in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World seat.


Retirements

With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for the chop. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since 2016 most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping.

Airbus A319:

G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019

The next to be retired (subject to change) are:

G-EUPE - Due to be withdrawn in Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Due to be withdrawn in Apr 2020
G-EUOC - Due to be withdrawn in Apr 2020
G-EUOD - Due to be withdrawn in Apr 2020
G-EUOE - Due to be withdrawn in 2020
G-EUOF - Due to be withdrawn in 2020
G-EUOG - Due to be withdrawn in 2020
G-EUPA - Due to be withdrawn in 2021
G-EUPB - Due to be withdrawn in 2021
G-EUPC - Due to be withdrawn in 2021
G-DBCA - Due to be withdrawn in 2021


Boeing 747-400: As of November 2019, 25 747-400s have been retired from the original fleet of 57, leaving 32 aircraft in service. Of those remaining, 17 are "super high-J" aircraft (14F / 86J / 30W / 145Y), all of which have received a cabin refresh. The remaining 15 aircraft are "mid-J" (14F / 52J / 36W / 235Y), all of which will have received a cabin refresh by the end of 2019. All aircraft are fitted with New First.

The current plan is for all aircraft to be retired by February 2024. BA plans to have the following numbers of 747s in the fleet at year end:

  • 2020: 25 aircraft
  • 2021: 20 aircraft
  • 2022: 12 aircraft
  • 2023: 3 aircraft


A list of retired 747-400s as of 26 May 2019 is archived here.

Since then the following have been retired:

G-BNLN - Retired to DGX on 24 Jun 2019
G-CIVG - Retired to DGX on 25 Nov 2019

For a further analysis of the fleet and retirement plans: see Globaliser's tracker.

The last known planned dates of the next retirements were as follows (but should all be regarded as subject to change). All the retirements will be of the "mid-J" configuration unless stated otherwise.

G-CIVD - Due to be retired in May 2020
G-CIVH - Due to be retired in Jun 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVJ - Due to be retired in Jun 2020
G-CIVI - Due to be retired in Oct 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVL - Due to be retired in Nov 2020
G-CIVK - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVM - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVN - Due to be retired in Feb 2021
G-CIVF - Due to be retired in Jun 2021 [super high-J]
G-CIVB - Due to be retired in 2022
G-CIVC - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-CIVE - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-BYGC - Due to be retired in 2023 [super high-J]
G-BNLY - Due to be retired in 2023


Boeing 777-200:

G-ZZZC - Due to be retired in Jan 2020
G-ZZZA - Due to be retired in Sep 2020
G-ZZZB - Due to be retired in Oct 2020

Historical Fleet

Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.


Boeing 767: The last remaining 767 was retired in Nov 2018. Details are archived here.
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Old Dec 14, 18, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by Schind View Post
Yep. Boeing only have 41 of them left to assemble unless they take any more orders. They've pushed out 31 so far this year so 2020 will see the last few come off the production line. Boeing already have four 777-9s in assembly so they're in the transition period now.
It does make you wonder why BA haven't gone for the newer models. I think we can safely assume price is the main factor.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...=2&pli=1#gid=5
I think delivery date is the main factor. The aircraft are leased, so BA is not paying the price, only monthly leasing costs.
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Old Dec 14, 18, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by rapidex View Post
I think delivery date is the main factor. The aircraft are leased, so BA is not paying the price, only monthly leasing costs.
Indeed, but you'd imagine the leasing costs are a lot lower. The list price for a 777-9 is $64 million more than a 300ER plus Boeing probably offered the last few production slots at an even cheaper price than normal in order to ensure no gaps in production. As recently as 2017 it was announced they were struggling to fill the last few slots and there haven't been a huge amount of orders since then. A lower price of aircraft to the lessor is bound to mean lower charges for the airline.
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Old Dec 14, 18, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Schind View Post
Indeed, but you'd imagine the leasing costs are a lot lower. The list price for a 777-9 is $64 million more than a 300ER plus Boeing probably offered the last few production slots at an even cheaper price than normal in order to ensure no gaps in production. As recently as 2017 it was announced they were struggling to fill the last few slots and there haven't been a huge amount of orders since then. A lower price of aircraft to the lessor is bound to mean lower charges for the airline.
Indeed. It's ALL to do with cost/expense. If if one thinks something doesn't have a cost/expense implication, it does!

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Old Dec 14, 18, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Schind View Post
...A lower price of aircraft to the lessor is bound to mean lower charges for the airline.
Would the lessor be offering their standard B77W terms and not the end of line discount?
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Old Dec 14, 18, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by richardwft View Post
Would the lessor be offering their standard B77W terms and not the end of line discount?
It depends on what the market will stand. If there are quite a few airlines wanting 77Ws on lease, then standard terms might fly! Otherwise a bit of a discount might be in order. And it might also depend on the discount from Boeing too. So I suspect there is a small discount to the lessor for "old" new aircraft at the end of their production run. It has to be somewhat attractive after all. But this will have all been worked out before the order; leasing companies rarely order aircraft without already having the lessee lined up and terms agreed.

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Old Dec 15, 18, 9:41 pm
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Not sure whether this is exactly the right spot to ask, but any idea where the lone 321neo is flying? I'm looking at flying LHR-AMS next month and Google Flights is telling me it's operated by a 321neo. BA is telling me it's a 320. When I look up the flight on ExpertFlyer, it shows the code 32Q. Not flying BA much, I'm not sure which of the two types that would correspond to... Any insight?
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Old Dec 15, 18, 11:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith View Post
Not sure whether this is exactly the right spot to ask, but any idea where the lone 321neo is flying? I'm looking at flying LHR-AMS next month and Google Flights is telling me it's operated by a 321neo. BA is telling me it's a 320. When I look up the flight on ExpertFlyer, it shows the code 32Q. Not flying BA much, I'm not sure which of the two types that would correspond to... Any insight?
The code 32Q does indeed correspond to the A321neo. Always a chance that the type will be changed closer to the flight, although NEOS is due to join NEOR in January but I don't know when. On the BA seat map, where are the exit rows located? That should help confirm the exact type.

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Old Dec 16, 18, 3:19 am
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith View Post
Not sure whether this is exactly the right spot to ask, but any idea where the lone 321neo is flying? I'm looking at flying LHR-AMS next month and Google Flights is telling me it's operated by a 321neo. BA is telling me it's a 320. When I look up the flight on ExpertFlyer, it shows the code 32Q. Not flying BA much, I'm not sure which of the two types that would correspond to... Any insight?
It's flying all over the place but, so far, hasn't been to AMS. The routes each plane has flown in the past 30 days are available on The BA Source.

G-NEOR | The BA Source
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Old Dec 16, 18, 9:37 am
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Originally Posted by Scotflyer80 View Post
G-TTNG is planned to be delivered to BA tomorrow evening from TLS.
I’m about to fly her - will see if she’s clean or not, and if the in-seat power is working! (Unless I’ve got my aircraft confused)
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Old Dec 16, 18, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by RB211 View Post
The code 32Q does indeed correspond to the A321neo. Always a chance that the type will be changed closer to the flight, although NEOS is due to join NEOR in January but I don't know when. On the BA seat map, where are the exit rows located? That should help confirm the exact type.

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I see that NEOS is the next to be delivered so why is NEOP being delivered out of sequence? She seems to have been sitting idle (without engines) for some months. Is it purely an engine delivery problem or is there something else going on?
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Old Dec 16, 18, 2:51 pm
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I see that NEOS is the next to be delivered so why is NEOP being delivered out of sequence? She seems to have been sitting idle (without engines) for some months. Is it purely an engine delivery problem or is there something else going on?
NEOP was to be the first delivered. I think someone said it might have had a small accident upthread, but I don't have anything solid.

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Old Dec 16, 18, 3:11 pm
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Looks like NEOP has had a mishap before even flying.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspo...0/in/contacts/
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Old Dec 16, 18, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Schind View Post
It's flying all over the place but, so far, hasn't been to AMS. The routes each plane has flown in the past 30 days are available on The BA Source.

G-NEOR The BA Source
From the seat map it looks like G-NEOR is on the 1435/1439 rotation to EDI on Tuesday morning (18/12).
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First A350 very likely to be Canada - after a few Madrid FAM flights of course.
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Old Dec 17, 18, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by BrianDromey View Post
Interesting. I wonder if they would retain F in that super-Hi-J layout? I guess 3-4-3 is a certainty for these aircraft.

At a rough guess the 77Ws could end up with something like 8F/80J/40W/130Y Vs 14F/56J/44W/183Y today. There are quite a few assumptions though, F could become a 4 "suite" cabin, J likely won't be as space efficient as it is currently and BA may prefer to increase the size of the W cabin at the expense of 86J.
With the kind of density BA is achieving elsewhere in the fleet I reckon they could manage a bit better than that, even with a lower density J layout. My guess was 8F/88J/40W/140Y, assuming:

Cabin section 1: 8F+16J
Cabin section 2: 48J
Cabin section 3: 24J+40W
Cabin section 4: 140Y (10 abreast)

That assumes an F toilet and reduced galley space at the front. CW galley & toilets around doors 2 and 3 and main W/J toilets at the rear of cabin section 3. Cabin section 4 as per the densified 3 class 777-200s but only 2 toilets, freeing up space for 8 more seats.

That would mean a lot of repositioning of toilets and galley space though so, even if possible probably makes for an expensive refit.

Will be interesting to see....
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