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BA FLEET: NEW AIRCRAFT ARRIVALS AND RETIREMENTS WIKI

BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft have enabled BA to retire the 767 and old 737 fleets, although the 737 MAX looks likely to appear in the fleet from 2023. and will eventually allow the retirement of the 747 fleet plus the addition of new routes, both short-haul and long-haul. BA have not yet announced the replacement aircraft for the majority of their 777-200ERs which are approaching retirement age.

This Wiki has been divided into:
  • Projected Fleet
    • New Arrivals
      • Retrofits
        • Retirements
          • Historical Fleet

(Click on the aircraft type, where there is a link, to go to the relevant details in this wikipost.)


Projected Fleet

This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers at year end 2022.

Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet

Shorthaul
• A319: 9 (39 currently in fleet)
• A320ceo: 67 (67 currently in fleet)
• A320neo: 22 (10 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 14 (14 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 13 (7 currently in fleet)

Midhaul
• A321: 4 (4 currently in fleet)

Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (3 currently in fleet)
• A380: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B747-400: 12 (32 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 8 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 9 (0 currently in fleet)

London City Fleet

Shorthaul
• E170 / E190: 28 (24 currently in fleet)

Longhaul
• A318: 1 (1 currently in fleet)


New Arrivals

Airbus A320ceo: Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.


Airbus A320neo: 35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s.
G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Due in Jan 2020
G-TTNL - Due in Feb 2020
G-TTNM - Due in Apr 2020
G-TTNN - Due in Jul 2020
G-TTNO - Due in Sep 2020
G-TTNP - Due in 2020
G-TTNR -
G-TTNS -
G-TTNT -
G-TTNU -
G-TTNV -
G-TTNW -


Airbus A321neo:
G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Due in 2019
G-NEOY - Due in 2019
G-NEOZ - Due in 2020
G-TNEA -
G-TNEB -
G-TNEC -


Airbus A350: BA ordered 18 A350-1000s for delivery between 2019 and 2021. They will all be based at LHR are being delivered as 3-class in a 56J/56W/219Y configuration. Deliveries started in July 2019.
G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Due in TBA (Damaged TLS)
G-XWBE - Due in Jan 2020
G-XWBF - Due in Mar 2020
G-XWBG - Due in Jun 2020
G-XWBH - Due in Jul 2020
G-XWBI - Due in Oct 2020
G-XWBJ - Due in Jan 2021
G-XWBK - Due in Feb 2021
G-XWBL -
G-XWBM -
G-XWBN -
G-XWBO -
G-XWBP -
G-XWBR -
G-XWBS -


Airbus A380: Twelve A380s were delivered between Jul 2013 and Jun 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.


Boeing 777-300ER: Six 777-300ERs were delivered between Sep 2013 and Aug 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018. These final four are due to be delivered from Q3 2020.
G-STBM - Due in Q3 2020 (possibly July)
G-STBN - Due in 2020 (possibly August)
G-STBO - Due in 2020
G-STBP - Due in 2020


Boeing 777-9: In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration. The 777-9s on order will be used to replace 14 Boeing 747-400 and four Boeing 777-200ER between 2022 and 2025.


Boeing 787-8: Twelve 787-8s were delivered between Jun 2013 and Nov 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.


Boeing 787-9: Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between Sep 2015 and Jun 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.


Boeing 787-10: BA has 12 787-10s on order to be delivered between 2020 and 2023: Each aircraft will be fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.

G-ZBLA - Due in Jan 2020
G-ZBLB - Due in 2020
G-ZBLC - Due in 2020
G-ZBLD - Due in 2020
G-ZBLE - Due in 2020
G-ZBLF - Due in 2020
G-ZBLG - Due in 2021
G-ZBLH - Due in 2021
G-ZBLI - Due in 2022
G-ZBLJ - Due in 2023
G-ZBLK - Due in 2023
G-ZBLL - Due in 2023


Embraer 190: Three more new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and Sep 2014. Details are archived here. Seven second hand aircraft have since been sourced. Two more are due in 2019.
G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYX - Delivered on 10 Jul 2016
G-LCYY - Delivered on 22 Dec 2017
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Due in 2019
G-LCAD - Due in 2019



Retrofits

A320ceo:

The A320ceos currently based at LHR are being reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE, (unlike the A320neos). There are currently 33 completed.

Completed (CY180):
G-EUUI/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-EUYA/B/C/D/E/H/J/M/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y
G-MEDK
G-MIDO/S/T/X/Y

The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Madrid:
G-EUUD
G-EUUH
G-EUYK


A321ceo (COMPLETED):

All 14 shorthaul frames have now been reconfigured from a CY205 to a CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neos). The four midhaul frames remain unchanged in a 23J/131Y layout.

Completed (CY218):
G-EUXC/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M
G-MEDL/M/N

Boeing 777-200ER: For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html

Cabin retrofit of LGW 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do not feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in January 2018. There are currently 12 completed.
Completed (32J/52W/252Y): G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed (32J/48W/252Y): G-YMMB/C/D/F
Completed (14F/48J/40W/136Y): G-VIIV/W/Y

The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff:
G-YMME


Cabin retrofit of LHR 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in August 2019. There is currently 1 completed.
Completed (8F/49J/40W/138Y): G-RAES

The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff
None


Boeing 777-300ER:

Cabin retrofit to commence in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World seat.


Retirements

With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for the chop. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since 2016 most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping.

Airbus A319:
G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019

The next to be retired (subject to change) are:
G-EUPE - Due to be withdrawn in Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Due to be withdrawn in Apr 2020
G-EUOC - Due to be withdrawn in Apr 2020
G-EUOD - Due to be withdrawn in Apr 2020
G-EUOE - Due to be withdrawn in 2020
G-EUOF - Due to be withdrawn in 2020
G-EUOG - Due to be withdrawn in 2020
G-EUPA - Due to be withdrawn in 2021
G-EUPB - Due to be withdrawn in 2021
G-EUPC - Due to be withdrawn in 2021
G-DBCA - Due to be withdrawn in 2021


Boeing 747-400: As of November 2019, 25 747-400s have been retired from the original fleet of 57, leaving 32 aircraft in service. Of those remaining, 17 are "super high-J" aircraft (14F / 86J / 30W / 145Y), all of which have received a cabin refresh. The remaining 15 aircraft are "mid-J" (14F / 52J / 36W / 235Y), all of which will have received a cabin refresh by the end of 2019. All aircraft are fitted with New First.

The current plan is for all aircraft to be retired by February 2024. BA plans to have the following numbers of 747s in the fleet at year end:
  • 2020: 25 aircraft
  • 2021: 20 aircraft
  • 2022: 12 aircraft
  • 2023: 3 aircraft


A list of retired 747-400s as of 26 May 2019 is archived here.

Since then the following have been retired:
G-BNLN - Retired to DGX on 24 Jun 2019
G-CIVG - Retired to DGX on 25 Nov 2019

For a further analysis of the fleet and retirement plans: see Globaliser's tracker.

The last known planned dates of the next retirements were as follows (but should all be regarded as subject to change). All the retirements will be of the "mid-J" configuration unless stated otherwise.
G-CIVD - Due to be retired in May 2020
G-CIVH - Due to be retired in Jun 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVJ - Due to be retired in Jun 2020
G-CIVI - Due to be retired in Oct 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVL - Due to be retired in Nov 2020
G-CIVK - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVM - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVN - Due to be retired in Feb 2021
G-CIVF - Due to be retired in Jun 2021 [super high-J]
G-CIVB - Due to be retired in 2022
G-CIVC - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-CIVE - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-BYGC - Due to be retired in 2023 [super high-J]
G-BNLY - Due to be retired in 2023


Boeing 777-200:
G-ZZZC - Due to be retired in Jan 2020
G-ZZZA - Due to be retired in Sep 2020
G-ZZZB - Due to be retired in Oct 2020

Historical Fleet

Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.


Boeing 767: The last remaining 767 was retired in Nov 2018. Details are archived here.
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Old Jan 9, 14, 6:34 am
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Originally Posted by nux View Post
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Originally Posted by ERJ_12B


Source?




Discussed in the LH forum and other places.
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...arlier-than-pl
Thanks - I knew I had seen that somewhere...
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Old Jan 9, 14, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
Was just going to post the same link.

I am afraid the 747-8i is a flop since there are hardly any sales. It doesn't matter how technically good it is, and even if it is better than the A380 on some parameters, if you don't sell many then it counts as a flop.

The 8F is a reasonable success and accounts for most of the 747-8 orders, this is partly helped by not having any competition in the very large freighter market since there is no A380F. According to wikipedia there are 119 orders for the 747-8, but over half are for the frieghter. Compare this to the 777 where only around 14% of order are for the freighter.
The 747-8 has sold better than the 757-300 though. It's a tough market these days where you have to sell 1,000 of a model to be a success. But since it's a derivative, I've got to think that if the 747-8 is losing money, it can't be that big a loss. Or with the huge backlog, the loss will work out okay for the books.
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Originally Posted by greg5 View Post
The 747-8 has sold better than the 757-300 though. It's a tough market these days where you have to sell 1,000 of a model to be a success. But since it's a derivative, I've got to think that if the 747-8 is losing money, it can't be that big a loss. Or with the huge backlog, the loss will work out okay for the books.
I think that this is more of a big development of the 747 range compared to the 757-300 which was really just a stretched version of the 757-200. Had Boeing lauched the 747-8 10 years ago they may have captured more of the market before the A380 had lauched, but they sat on the 747-400 for 20 years and the market moved. The problem is they are not selling even 200 never mind 1,000.

Boeing have recently reduced 747 production rate so perhaps the backlog is artificially high. 60 outstanding orders is not much of a backlog. It is also clear how much of a flop the 747-8i has been when you look at how few current 747-400 operators have placed order. As noted above, even LH who bought the most are intending to retire them early.

The 8i is turning out to be a flop and we are seeing the end of 747 passenger operations within the next decade. The 8F is at least selling reasonably well.

EDIT: apologies for taking the thread slightly off topic here btw.
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Old Jan 9, 14, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by greg5 View Post
The 747-8 has sold better than the 757-300 though. It's a tough market these days where you have to sell 1,000 of a model to be a success. But since it's a derivative, I've got to think that if the 747-8 is losing money, it can't be that big a loss. Or with the huge backlog, the loss will work out okay for the books.
From a Boeing point of view I think that it will be fine as you say, even though I understood that the 747-8i was a pretty fundamental overhaul from the 747-400. I suspect that given it seems to work really well for cargo that is what we will see most of the orders for (and let's not forget, the 747-100 was originally designed to be a cargo plane as at the time it was thought that passenger air travel would be dominated by supersonic travel).

I think that the reason it does not sell from a passenger perspective is that the move is clearly away from 4 engines as they are more fuel thirsty (for cargo that means more weight so its not such a big issue). The A380 I suspect will be the last of the 4 engine airframes (unless someone comes out with a triple decker but not likely in my view). The 777-9X will carry almost the same number of passengers as the 747-400 and there aren't that many routes where you need more at the moment (although China might change that a bit!) LHR will be slot constrained for a while yet so I would expect that to keep the A380 going for a while and I have to say having been on the A380 now it is a much better aircraft than the 747-400 (quieter, better cabin pressure an humidity, better ovens for food etc etc). Also the A380 is a base model and I gather there is a lot of redundancy in the wings so there could be the A380-900 if there is a market for this (but I have a suspicion it will never get built).

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Originally Posted by Flying Doctor View Post
From a Boeing point of view I think that it will be fine as you say, even though I understood that the 747-8i was a pretty fundamental overhaul from the 747-400. I suspect that given it seems to work really well for cargo that is what we will see most of the orders for (and let's not forget, the 747-100 was originally designed to be a cargo plane as at the time it was thought that passenger air travel would be dominated by supersonic travel).
Even with that, it's nowhere near the cost of an entire new line like the 777 and the 787 were. I don't know the exact number any longer, but the 777 needed something over 100 (perhaps it was 300) planes to be sold before it made a profit. The order numbers provided by Boeing also won't include any pending options, but I can't imagine there are that many of those.

Most of the infrastructure, tooling, etc, for the 747-8 was probably able to be brought over from the previous 747 lines. So, this will have reduced costs significantly.

The Lockheed C-5 ended up winning the competition that the 747 was originally proposed for. The 747 was also proposed as its successor, but the McDonnell-Douglas C-17 ended up getting that honor. Perhaps, it is worth Boeing keeping the line going as a successor to the C-17?

BTW, I seem to remember a 757-300ER. Neither Wikipedia or Boeing.com mention it, but I can find a few hits on Google.

I think that the reason it does not sell from a passenger perspective is that the move is clearly away from 4 engines as they are more fuel thirsty (for cargo that means more weight so its not such a big issue). The A380 I suspect will be the last of the 4 engine airframes (unless someone comes out with a triple decker but not likely in my view). The 777-9X will carry almost the same number of passengers as the 747-400 and there aren't that many routes where you need more at the moment (although China might change that a bit!) LHR will be slot constrained for a while yet so I would expect that to keep the A380 going for a while and I have to say having been on the A380 now it is a much better aircraft than the 747-400 (quieter, better cabin pressure an humidity, better ovens for food etc etc). Also the A380 is a base model and I gather there is a lot of redundancy in the wings so there could be the A380-900 if there is a market for this (but I have a suspicion it will never get built).

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The maintenance on a 4 engine airframe is also something to consider. But, I think you're pretty much right on target here.
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Old Jan 11, 14, 11:32 pm
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The A380 I suspect will be the last of the 4 engine airframes
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I think there will continue to be room in the market for one manufacturer to produce a 4 engine aircraft. The enormous power needed to take off in something A380 sized is just not available from a single engine. The 777-300ER required a record breaking engine which has still not been surpassed, and its still a long way off an A380.

G-XLED completed its customer acceptance flight last week - any dates for delivery?
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Old Jan 12, 14, 3:34 am
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BA Fleet : New aircraft arrivals and retirements master tracker

Not sure about delivery dates but must be imminent and a 777-300 also due very soon...
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G-XLED due 17th Jan IIRC.
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Any news on the Gatwick A320s?

Seems to have gone quiet....
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Old Jan 12, 14, 7:23 am
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Also wondered if there were a couple of delays for new planes or early retirements for others as I note that on airlineroute.net the GRU increase to 10x per week has been put back to September 2014 and that IAD will now only get the A380 4x/week (is this to let it go to JNB 7x/week perhaps.....)

Anyway - seemed a bit odd to me....

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Old Jan 12, 14, 8:59 am
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There is an unforeseen early scrapping of a 747 remember so maybe that might cause some of the shifts in equipment you are seeing.
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If all the ex BMI fleet are heading to LGW, what will be serving BHD which at the minute, unfortunately, is just the BMI 319 and 320s.
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It would make sense if the former BMI fleet did move down to Gatwick.
After all, we are the BA lite cousins.

I was surprised to hear that Gatwick was going to get a fleet of A320s with decent leg room.
I'm not holding my breath.
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Old Jan 12, 14, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
There is an unforeseen early scrapping of a 747 remember so maybe that might cause some of the shifts in equipment you are seeing.
Are we sure though that it has been decided to scrap it? I know that it will be out of action for ages whatever BA decide to do with it (although I suspect scrapping would be the sensible option unless the damage is minor which it won't be).

The other thing that is interesting is that the A380 orderbook for Airbus is not that strong and there have been some deferments and cancellations for 2015 with Emirates making up over half the orderbook now. I did wonder if BA would try to take some of the 2015/16 A380s early.... I also wonder given that the A350 isn't coming for a bit if Airbus will do a bit of a deal with BA to take a few more A380's as Airbus will for sure want to have more than EK being the sole airline with future options....

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