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Old Aug 18, 2013, 2:36 pm
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For details of suitable hotels for those doing a last flight/first flight turnaround, please see this thread:
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Order: Back-to-back Transfer Landside Notes
[so Excellent for back to back usually means an easy airside transfer with few risks]
ABZ: Excellent Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable Reasonable Arrivals decant into departure hall.
ACE: Reasonable if off season, there is a transfer channel just before passports Reasonable Reasonable
AGP: Excellent for Schengen, Risky if not. Schengen - immediate turnaround possible at gate area. Non-Schengen - There is a transit passageway back to airside on the left after passports, but there can be long delays at passports, achievable if you are willing to politely push in the queue.
see here.
ALC: Reasonable if off season, but you do need to go fully airside if non Schengen. Small and efficient airport. Peak time: see here.
ALG: Impractical due to visa and immigration processes. See post 2224.
AMS: Excellent Excellent Poor Arrivals decant into departure hall normally.
ANE: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk. You may want to telephone the airport to let them know since there's no OLCI facility.
ARN: Excellent Good Reasonable (arriving pax should watch for sign to gates 70-82) * see posts 593, 238 & 1298 for more details.
ATH: Reasonable but don't hang about, you need to enter Schengen immigration, then leave Schengen, and a fairly efficient security check. Distances aren't great.
BCN: Good to excellent - bit of a walk - small flight connection facility to the left of passport control, dedicated security but no passports Good if non-Schengen, Reasonable if Schengen Reasonable
BGO: Excellent Excellent Excellent, borderline foolproof though only restricted number of flights Arrivals decant into departure hall.
BHD: Excellent - use stairs upwards between gates 5 and 6, against flow Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable Reasonable
BIO: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus Reasonable Reasonable
BIQ: Reasonable, involves going through passports to landside, security and passports again, but you need to be off early since passport checks are thorough.
BJV: Not really feasible, there is no online check-in or App facility, you must check in at the gate.
BOD: Reasonable but does involve going landside and back again. However it's a small airport and efficient.
BLL: Good (there is a clear transfer route after passport control to avoid a security check Good Good
BLQ: Good (small airport but you have to go landside) Reasonable Reasonable (bus gates)
BRI: Good (small airport but you have to go landside) Reasonable Reasonable
BSL: Good Good Good (Bit of a walk to landside, but it's not a huge airport. See this post for info).
BRU: Excellent on the transfer route, reasonable if not Reasonable Poor (see comments in post #246, also 64 onwards)
CAG: Reasonable, does involve going landside but small airport, airbridge rather than bus Reasonable Reasonable
CDG: Hopeless
CFU: Near impossible, no OLCI, you must present yourself at check-in. Process involves bus, passports, out to landside, short walk to departures building on right, security and bus. Security is bad on peak days.
CGN: No OLCI, but on some dates it is still possible. See this post for details.
CHQ: Near impossible despite being a small airport, no OLCI so you can only get a boarding pass at the airport, and bus to and from gates.
CMB: Easy to do airside. Arriving and departing pax are not segregated. If you have your return boarding pass, just walk directly from arrival gate to departure gate.
CMF: Generally Good, involves going landside. Best avoid Saturdays, the main changeover day, when security is stretched.
CPH: Excellent Good Reasonable Arrivals decant into departure hall.
CTA: Reasonable, there is a transfer route signed but seems obsolete. However small and efficient airport so still do-able if going via landside.
DBV: Impractical - there's no online check in here, you have to go landside and collect a boarding pass. Otherwise a very small airport.
DUB: Good (if ex-LHR), Reasonable if ex-LCY (quicker plane turnaround) Good if Common Travel Area, otherwise Reasonable Reasonable May require passing security, so Fast Track helps. See this post for a photo guide. (As of June 2017 increased risk due to pax segregation at 200 gates and ongoing building work)
DUS: Excellent Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen Good Arrivals decant into departure gate, though risk of bus to baggage hall.
EDI: Excellent Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable to Poor Reasonable to Poor Arrivals decant into departure hall normally, risk of bus to baggage hall.
EGC: Impractical. Bergerac has its own check-in system and is currently not on App/OLCI, so boarding passes must be obtained in person, no later than 45 minutes before departure.
FCO: Reasonable (return shuttle to main terminal) Reasonable Reasonable
FDH: Impractical due to delays during ski season - see here.
FLR: Poor due to use of bus transfers and airport layout Poor - no transfer track Reasonable
FNC: Reasonable due to small airport and long turnarounds. You do need to go landside and return to airside. Note high risk of weather related diversions. Bus from aircraft, passports, security, passports, walk to aircraft.
FRA: Reasonable to Poor Poor (particularly if coming off Schengen) Reasonable
FSC: Uncertain - if boarding passes can be issued in advance then it will be an easy landside transfer in a tiny airport. If boarding passes can only be collected in FSC then it's impossible.
FUE: Reasonable if out of the peak season, airbridges used. Have to go via passports landside and security, behind check in. Try Canaries+Families security if desperate.
GIB: Good Good Good Must go landside, bearing right and back up through security. Turnaround can be long. Leave the aircraft early so as to beat the queue at passport arrivals.
GLA: Excellent Excellent if domestic, otherwise Reasonable Reasonable Arrivals decant into departure hall normally.
GNB: Good Good Good: Walk to/from aircraft. Must go landside, outside and right back into departures. Long turnaround times make this feasible though Saturdays busy.
GOA: Reasonable Reasonable Reasonable
GOT: Excellent Excellent Excellent Borderline foolproof. Arrivals decant into departure hall.
GVA: Excellent Good Good (but can be poor during ski season) Turn left in arrival lane to go back up to departures area.
HAJ: Excellent Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen Good Arrivals decant into departure gate. See posts 1670 and 1671 below.
HAM: Excellent Excellent if non-Schengen, Good if Schengen Reasonable Arrivals decant into departure hall, though sometimes bus to baggage hall.
HEL: Good Good Reasonable Incoming passengers can reverse direction just before Schengen passports. If a bus from gate, you will need to rush.
HER: Infeasible. There is no online or App check in, it's a bus transfer and arrivals / departures are in separate buildings.
INN: Good Good Good - you have to go landside, and there is a bus transfer to/from the aircraft, but the airport is very small and highly efficient.
INV: Good to Excellent Good Good - you have to go landside and through security. See here for more info.
IOM: Good Good Good (no flight connections but small airport)
IST: Good (visa not required) Good Poor (also note you may need to buy a visa as a result of going landside). More details in this post.
JER: Excellent Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good Good Arrivals decant into departure hall, sometimes you need to double back to the BA lounge.
JMK: Nearly impossible due to clunky arrival processing and use of buses.
JTR: Impossible: bus transfer, slow passports.
KEF: Excellent Excellent if non Schengen, Good otherwise Good BA flights tip arriving passengers into the departure gate. Foolproof. NB LCY flights pax use a bus from a remote stand, still easy as dropped off less than 100M from the departure gate.
KLX: Moderately risky due to boarding passes only being issued at check-in. No buses used normally, walk off plane straight into very small building.
LBA: Good Good Good have to go landside for any connection or b2b but small airport, see here for further details
LCA: Good Good Reasonable There is a "Connecting Flights" channel on the left of the arrivals corridor, half way along, well before passports.
LEI: Moderate to risky: you have to go via landside, and you need the return boarding pass before travel. But it's a small and efficient airport. No buses are used, it's similar to LCY in operation.
LHR T3: Good Good Reasonable Follow connecting flights route, which can be as quick as 11 mins from disembark to through security. No conformance unlike T5.
see here.
LIG: Good to Excellent Good Reasonable See this post for more information
LIS: Good Good Reasonable There is a security check to the right, immediately before and avoiding the passport desks. Risk of bus gates, but still OK.
LIN: Good Good Reasonable to Poor (bus gates)
LPA: Possibly OK if off peak. Some flights are bus gates, but it's a relatively small and efficient airport. OLCI and App check in both work.
LUX: Very Good Good Good Borderline excellent, no known fatalities. Landside route is described here: Airside transfer door described here.
MAD: Very good Good to Reasonable depending on arriving terminal Reasonable See this post for full details.
MAH: Good to excellent, see post number 563.
MAN: Reasonable to Poor Reasonable to Poor Reasonable to Poor
MCT: Excellent - direct transfer route [ ] [ ].
MJV: Good Good Good provided you avoid a peak time More information here.
MLA: Good Good Good This this post and linked blog for details.
MRS: Good Good Good There is a transfer and security point just before going down to passports. Use the phone on the post to ask for it to be opened it for you; however, there is no guarantee that it will and you may have to exit to landside and re-enter through departures security.
MUC: Very good Good but note 2 terminals Good Transfer point after passport, details in this post
MXP: Good - bit of walk to Transfer facility Good Good Thread links here.
NCE: Reasonable Poor Good [There is a direct transfer route by turning into the door way on the right before the slope up to passports]
NCL: Excellent Excellent if domestic, otherwise Good Good Arrivals decant into departure hall.
NTE: Good Good Good see this post.
NUE: Impractical unfortunately due to no OLCI, all check in done at the airport
OLB: Excellent Excellent Excellent Arriving into Olbia is via jetty to the departure gate, no passports or security. Note no OLCI via the App, more info here.
ORK: Good, do need to clear passports and security but very small and efficient airport.
ORY: No recommended due to fast turnarounds on LCY services. You have to go fully landside and back in again, via 2 passport checks and a security check.
OPO: Excellent [Look for grey escalator going up] Good (reasonable if Schengen) Reasonable
OTP: Excellent as at April 2019. Poor as of 29 Dec 18, see post #2660 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30586858-post2660.html.
Excellent - See post #1919 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29017017-post1919.htmlGood - look for Connection facility on right after leaving aircraft Reasonable Poor (can be Good if all everything works)
OSL: Good on the whole Reasonable Reasonable (See experiences in this post, this post, this post and this post.)
OVD: Not really suitable. This is really an Iberia Express route but leaves T5 under BA code. The aircraft is based in OVD not LHR. Small efficient airport though.
PFO: Good on the whole, but you do need to go landside. However it is a small airport. May not be so good on a busy Saturday during school holidays. Note bus transfers however.
PMO: Airport is currently being rebuilt. Once completed potentially a good option due to airbridge. Departure security is two floors above arrivals (use lift)
PMI: Excellent Excellent Excellent borderline foolproof - you are landed direct into boarding area.
PRG: Excellent ?? ?? For back-to-back the LHR-PRG arrival dumps you right into the main corridor of that pier; walk 100 ft. to security check for the BA boarding lounge and you'll be good to go.
PSA: Reasonable Reasonable Reasonable (not the best location since there are a lot of LCC and you have to reclear security from landside). (August 2018 review and comment)
PUY: Unrealistic, due to the bus transfer process followed by passport control.
RAK: Terrible Unknown See post #1353 below
RHO: Infeasible - no OLCI or App check in, bus transfers from gates. Also airport very busy on Saturday PM and Sunday AM.
RTM: Good Good Good (Reasonable during morning/evening peaks)
SEZ: Excellent, use the Transit desk at the right side of the immigration hall, opposite end to passport control, see this post.
SKG: Reasonable Reasonable Reasonable but note bus transfers on apron.
SOF: Excellent Excellent Reasonable arrivals decant into departure area.
SPU: Reasonable but there is a bus transfer and then landside Reasonable but transfer routes seems to be from Star Alliance Reasonable
STR: Reasonable - stairs from baggage hall back to security. Can't avoid security/passports Reasonable Reasonable Report here.
SVG: Excellent Excellent Excellent borderline foolproof, though only restricted number of flights
SVQ: Reasonable but need to exit landside and go up through departures, security. and passports is by the gate. Compact airport, fast security even if queuing.
SZG: Reasonable Reasonable Reasonable no transfer channel and note bus transfers, but small airport.
TFS: Reasonable but in all cases involves going landside. May be tricky to reclear security in peak holiday season.
TIA: Probably impractical. There is a bus transfer process and passport checks/stamps takes a while (Albania isn't in the EU).
TLL: Very good Good Reasonable see this post.
TLV: At your own risk. There is a transfer route with security on the way to passport control just after the rotunda.
TNG: No transfer or B2B route. Have to pass immigration, customs and security again. Airport is tiny (think 10 flights a day) and B2B is perfectly doable provided no problems at immigration.
TRN: Reasonable to Good Good Reasonable No short cuts to avoid going landside via passports x2 and security, apart from Fast Track security, but a small and efficient airport.
TXL: Good - security takes place in limited area by arriving gate Good Good Security is at gates, if using A gates. NB: Currently, this usually includes LCY flights, which now mostly use A gates like LHR flights.
UIP: Good - very small airport, tarmac walk.
VCE: Very good Good at offpeak times Reasonable See this post for details
VIE: Excellent (BEWARE see: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29579878-post2190.html ) Good Reasonable
VLC: Good Good Reasonable there's no transfer route so you have to go via landside. Departures is straight up from the arrival point. Disagree with the previous two sentences. For me, a direct turnaround from gates 12-14 was possible without going landside. Took less than a minute.
VNO: Excellent Good Reasonable arriving passengers enter departing passenger area. [BA have codeshare and also has TP Run options via AY]
VRN: Good Good Reasonable there's no transfer route so you have to go landside but it's a very small airport and there is Fast Track.
WAW: Good - small connection facility on left after airbridge Good Reasonable
ZAG: Very good Good Reasonable ask to use the International Transfer channel on the left side of the passport hall, you need a boarding pass/App. NOTE: New terminal just opened, so this info needs updating.
ZRH: Generally good but see this post and the replies for more information.
ZTH: Infeasible due to buses and no online check-in possibilities. Somewhat unfortunate given the small airport. No transfer route, you must enter Schengen and go to landside.

Excellent generally means you will leave the aircraft and find yourself in the boarding area for departure. Good suggests that you may have to clear either security and / or passports before reboarding, but it should still be possible.

Two caveats:
A) Sometimes things don't go to plan. E.g. EDI sometimes uses buses, which puts passengers landside and thus needing to reclear security. Ditto HAM.
B) The above needs to be combined with the turnaround time. MXP often has a generous back-to-back time, for example.

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Back-to-back / Immediate Turnarounds at BA Destinations

Old Mar 29, 2016, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by AlanA
Can someone explain to me why do B2B at all? Being a bear of a small brain, I don't really understand why you have to get the same plane back? why not fly the night before?
For example, I'm doing DUB-PHL-MCO, and before I do this I am flying in the night before BHX-DUB.

I'm probably being very thick, but I don't really understand this?

Thanks in advance :-)
The objective is generally to get the cost saving benefit of the ex-EUR fare with the minimum unnecessary expenditure of cash and time. Of course, for some people the back-to-back has become something of a macho challenge as well !
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Old Mar 29, 2016, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by AlanA
Can someone explain to me why do B2B at all? Being a bear of a small brain, I don't really understand why you have to get the same plane back? why not fly the night before?
For example, I'm doing DUB-PHL-MCO, and before I do this I am flying in the night before BHX-DUB.

I'm probably being very thick, but I don't really understand this?

Thanks in advance :-)
CSW is the oracle of wisdom so have a read through his links.

in brief, there are 3 options:

1. go the night before: least stressful, pretty safe (unless your flight is cancelled but then you can have a conversation with BA), additional cost due to hotel in DUB (or other ex EU destination).

2. B2B: a no-brainer at some airports (like AMS, SVG - see immediate turn-around thread) as you go back on the same plane that took you there, i.e. if there are delays are cancellations, you won't 'miss' the flight back. can be a bit stressful if you do have to do a 'loop' via passport control and security (as is the case in DUB) but usually pretty safe (though not at all airports!).

3. non B2B: as CWS says, a 2 hour cushion is risky as if your flight is delayed by more than 1.5 hours or so, you are in hot waters. I'd leave plenty of time - like 4+ hours or so. I did one of these last week and had 9 hours in between flights (though I did work from the lounge and there's a longer reason for why I did it).

so, in short, night before and B2B are your best options really.
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Old Mar 31, 2016, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by nbevan
But it does call into question the advisability of informing the crew of your intentions at airports where arriving and departing passengers mix?
If the crew were minded to be suspicious about a passenger who was immediately returning on the same aircraft, they might just as easily raise the question when the passenger re-boards. In addition, some SCCMs read their iPad lists in advance and sometimes spot the fact that we're doing this. So saying nothing might just as easily raise questions (and at a time when the problem would be less easy to sort out), and I can't see how one could rely on saying nothing as a risk-reduction measure.

In fact, despite that reported experience, to my mind it makes it more important not only to tell the crew that you'll be back, but also to try to get on well with them during the outbound flight. (Getting on well with them on the second sector comes more naturally.)
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Old Apr 2, 2016, 5:12 am
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Almost missed flight back on B2B LHR-LIS-LHR

Hello, Johnny Smugg here with a warning that even the best laid plans can sometimes go awry.

We used LIS as our starting/finishing point for our March trip to CPT, so LIS-LHR-CPT and back with LHR-LIS-LHR positioning flights using RFS. When I booked, it was the best pricing/availability option and the LIS transfer looked unbeatable. We did the final LHR-LIS-LHR yesterday.

Due to arrive at LIS at 18:05 and departing at 18:50, what could possibly go wrong? After all, we'd done just that three weeks ago without complication. Leave the plane, on to the jetbridge to Gate 41, up the escalator, along almost to Immigration but bear right into Security, then along to Gate 41. Then, when ready, enter the plane from the jetbridge.

Ha ha! Well, the initial 30 or so minutes ATC delay (earlier fog) didn't help. The plane was fully booked and even CE pax were having hand baggage tagged and sent to the hold. On arriving, we parked at a remote bus stand, not at the gate. They tried to put all the passengers into the one bus. We then took a very circuitous route to the terminal and were decamped close to the Immigration/transfer route. By this time, we had missed Final Call for our flight but the very helpful security people shouted to others that there were still some pax to load. Thankfully the BA reps were still at Gate 41 and scanned our BPs. Then down the escalator to wait for the bus to make a return trip.

The cabin crew welcomed us, and we took off for LHR minutes later. BTW, the crews were different. The outbound crew stayed over to operate today's early LIS-LHR and the inbound crew joined the flight with us (though earlier!) This meant there was no point in telling the crew they'd see us again in a few minutes.

This was our first B2B at LIS. I'd done many ex-EUs in the past, from VIE, LIS, AMS and LIN on business trips, with B2Bs from VIE (no longer as useful) DUB and AMS.

If even LIS can be difficult, I'll be looking at going out a day or two ahead for future B2Bs. Our next is SVG-LHR-SAN and back. That looks pretty safe. (Doesn't it?)
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Originally Posted by Roger
Hello, Johnny Smugg here with a warning that even the best laid plans can sometimes go awry.
You'll be fine at SVG, you will soon see why I promote it.

Thanks for the story, and indeed it does show what can go wrong (and it is highlighted in the wiki that bus transfers are a nuisance here). Except it didn't go wrong: you made the flight without too much hanging around, and actually at LIS, due to the strung out layout, they are quite used to dealing with stragglers. So well done on completing the circuit. I would say that those who worry, or don't like uncertainty, need to reflect on whether this is a good idea, and OPO is a better location for this anyway, though the timings probably don't work so well. Unlikely to get a bus there, the airport isn't overly busy.
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Thanks, c-w-s. Yes, we do have a worrier in the family. Forgive me for not identifying her. (Whoops!)

Fares and availability permitting, I'll be looking at OPO. It didn't work this time. I did feel slightly envious that the cabin crew had the opportunity of some lovely Lisbon dining last night, though not too much as they had a 06:00 pick-up from the hotel for today's early flight.
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We completed our first back to back at CPH on Saturday, with no problems. I was slightly nervous after the report a week ago of staff being concerned about a back to backer (think that was later assumed to be at DUB), but we had some good banter with the crew on the return. The head cabin crew member even apologised to us that we had to go to CPH to get a cheap fare (don't think she realised just how cheap the fare was though!)
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Old Apr 7, 2016, 12:45 am
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If this was DUB - and presumably the 200 gates - I find it beyond comprehension. There is freedom of movement within the EU (hence my earlier thought about GVA), the CTA is fully operational in this 200 gate area. It was built for that purpose! When T1 and T2 expanded then events overtook the arrivals process from the UK, and the mixing of passengers is why the Gardaí need to ascertain bona fides from the other gates.
The latest from Martyn Sinclair:
Arrived back in Dublin transiting to London.

1. There is no clear signage in the 200 gates to show you need to go through the system. I got a personal tour of the area by one of the duty ground crews who agreed that passengers would not know they needed to go through the system unless they were told.

2. Immigration did confirm that even with a same gate departure passengers do need (as LP confirmed) to go through the system, for arriving and departing flights from the 200 gates, but agreed, they had no way of enforcing this

When going in and out on the same flight, I intend asking the operating crew exactly what they want me to do to ensure I do not get turfed off another flight. I will put my experience down to an over zealous cabin crew, but who were operating within their remit.

Perhaps a better solution is an announcement on landing by the crew, especially at airports such as Dublin, as more and more passengers are using the airport for ex Europe cheaper tickets.......
Very bizarre: is this really correct?
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Old Apr 7, 2016, 12:52 am
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What a load of rubbish. CC have very little clue often about the exact layout and process of connecting or doing back to backs at airports (probably with the only exception being LHR) so to ask the CC what they think is a complete waste of time. I think there is a danger of completely overreacting to a one off incident - no one has ever reported anything like this before so it really isn't worth worrying about.

The answer to 2 is not correct unless you have to go landisde like for a 300 gate, and not clear what signage is lacking at the 200 gates exactly?
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Old Apr 7, 2016, 1:17 am
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2. Immigration did confirm that even with a same gate departure passengers do need (as LP confirmed) to go through the system, for arriving and departing flights from the 200 gates, but agreed, they had no way of enforcing this
So either:
1. Dublin has these strange regulations
2. Martyn misunderstood what immigration told him
3. Martyn is making it up

Option 1 seems the least improbable? Maybe the next person through Dublin could double-check what immigation say?
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A quick q. on MAD. Does anyone know why the morning LCY - MAD flight has a 4 hr turnaround time in MAD ? Surely a long time to be sitting on the ground unless it is either flying on somewhere else, or perhaps because business pax at whom it is aimed, do want to fly until later in afternoon ? Rather inconvenient whatever the reason !
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Old Apr 7, 2016, 2:02 am
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Originally Posted by nbevan
So either:
1. Dublin has these strange regulations
2. Martyn misunderstood what immigration told him
3. Martyn is making it up

Option 1 seems the least improbable? Maybe the next person through Dublin could double-check what immigation say?
I can see why an immigration officer might say this, right or wrong. Assuming transit pax do not have to clear immigration but arriving pax do, there must be scope for some difference of view whether someone on a turnaround back to their place of origin and on a separate ticket is a transiting pax. This could (probably) be answered by reference to the wording in the relevant legislation (primary or subordinate), but nobody will have consulted the rule book in this situation. And it is even possible that the legislation is itself ambiguous ....

The very quickest of Google searches comes up with this for the NZ definition of a transit pax "Transit passengers are persons who: arrive in New Zealand from another country while in transit to another overseas destination ....". It would not be an illogical construction of the bolded "another" to regard this as meaning a destination other than that of the "other country" from which they have arrived (as well as other than NZ). I am not saying that is a correct construction, but it is certainly a possible construction.

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Interesting interpretation, but my reading of what Martyn said ("even with a same gate departure") was that immigration confirmed what they had apparently told him on his previous visit: transit is not permitted at the 200 gates.
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Originally Posted by nbevan
Interesting interpretation, but my reading of what Martyn said ("even with a same gate departure") was that immigration confirmed what they had apparently told him on his previous visit: transit is not permitted at the 200 gates.
Actually I have now found the Irish definition !

"A transit passenger is a person who is on board an aircraft which lands at an airport in the course of its journey and who continues his or her journey on that aircraft. A transfer passenger is a passenger who arrives on a flight to an airport and who leaves on a further flight (other than to the airport where the passenger’s journey started), where both flights are part of a single booking and where the length of time between the scheduled time of arrival of the flight to the airport and the scheduled time of departure of the flight from that airport is not more than 6 hours."


That makes it pretty clear that on the Irish definition, a turnaround does not constitute either a transit or transfer and the immigration people probably got it right.
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Originally Posted by nbevan
So either:
1. Dublin has these strange regulations
2. Martyn misunderstood what immigration told him
3. Martyn is making it up

Option 1 seems the least improbable? Maybe the next person through Dublin could double-check what immigation say?
BT is not a source of good information firstly.

Secondly, don't you think if the intention and regulations were that all passengers must go through immigration they would have designed the gates in such a way that passengers were forced to do this? I find it strange to think that the airport would have gates allowing same gate and nearby gate transfers when we are apparently lead to believe this is not allowable.

As I said, it is rubbish.
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