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This thread gives details of the changeover of catering supplier to British Airways lounges in the UK in April to June 2013. The new supplier is BaxterStorey, taking over from Compass / Restaurant Associates. For details of the current catering arrangements in specific lounges please see below
LHR lounges - terminals 1, 3 and 5:
Concorde Room (CCR) LHR : menus 2013 - T5 only
Galleries First (Flounge) LHR: Dining menu and food options 2013 - T3 and T5.
Galleries Club lounge LHR: Dining menu and food options 2013 - T3 and T5.
International Lounge Terminal 1 LHR - catering options from May 2013 - T1 international flights. This is due to change to BaxterStorey on 12 June 2013.
For the lounges in Gatwick and UK domestic lounges in Newcastle, Manchester, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen:
First Lounge London Gatwick (North terminal): Catering options from April 2013
Galleries Club Lounge Gatwick (North Terminal): Catering options from April 2013
UK Domestic lounges (outside London) - catering arrangments from April 2013
Feedback:
There's various methods to give feedback on the catering changes. These include:
LHR lounges - terminals 1, 3 and 5:
Concorde Room (CCR) LHR : menus 2013 - T5 only
Galleries First (Flounge) LHR: Dining menu and food options 2013 - T3 and T5.
Galleries Club lounge LHR: Dining menu and food options 2013 - T3 and T5.
International Lounge Terminal 1 LHR - catering options from May 2013 - T1 international flights. This is due to change to BaxterStorey on 12 June 2013.
For the lounges in Gatwick and UK domestic lounges in Newcastle, Manchester, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Aberdeen:
First Lounge London Gatwick (North terminal): Catering options from April 2013
Galleries Club Lounge Gatwick (North Terminal): Catering options from April 2013
UK Domestic lounges (outside London) - catering arrangments from April 2013
Feedback:
There's various methods to give feedback on the catering changes. These include:
- The lounge guest book - comments left here are read by BA and BaxterStorey managers on site.
- Twitter - tweet @British_Airways and @Baxter_Storey your experience at the time.
- Through BA.com - its useful for BA to hear what you think whether you're a high tier point earner or just an occasional business class traveller.
- Your recent feedback on catering in our lounges - Note to this forum from BA Executive Club (which says they are monitoring feedback in that thread).
New lounge catering contract : BaxterStorey replaces Compass - eff 1 May 2013
#46
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I think that's true of many restaurants too. As a business practice persuading your customers that what is provided is worth more than it actually costs to produce is key to generating a profit margin.
Not sure I follow the point about the restaurant definition. It is what it is, although apart from the absence of payment, the CCR dining room would meet most definitions of a restaurant. What's disputed here is how good it is. I'm not sure the semantic point helps us with that debate.
Not sure I follow the point about the restaurant definition. It is what it is, although apart from the absence of payment, the CCR dining room would meet most definitions of a restaurant. What's disputed here is how good it is. I'm not sure the semantic point helps us with that debate.
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The point, I guess, is that you're kidding yourself if you think there will ever be food worthy of a Michelin restaurant in an airline lounge... My one experience in the CCR left me a very happy camper, so although I acknowledge that the service may be of variable quality (as, naturally, may the food), I cannot comment on having waited a long time for sub-standard food in the CCR.
I am not unhappy with the food choice it is what it is. I do however expect what it is to be served hot and the service itself to be acceptable. Service on a par with a good chain restaurant is absolutely achievable and realistic.
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The quality of food has very little to do with the brand/caterer and far more to do with the budget. If you get paid Ł1.67 for a hot dinner, them expectations should be low.
Where I hope we'll se an improvement is in the staff motivation and service levels, but if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
Where I hope we'll se an improvement is in the staff motivation and service levels, but if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
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The environment is a lot more pleasant but I found the service to be a bit indifferent - not bad but just so-so.
The CCR at JFK is miles better in every aspect ^ Even the F lounge at LGW was better service-wise.
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I've given up on eating in the CCR. These days, I tend to go through the magic white door, scan my BP, drop my roll aboard with the CCR cloakroom, scan my BP at the Flounge and help myself to what's on the slab in the refectory. Much better eats than the CCR.
Can't take a First Class only facility seriously if the white tablecloths have been enhanced away.
Can't take a First Class only facility seriously if the white tablecloths have been enhanced away.
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The food is what it is, but it's the service that is frequently terrible. The simple fact is that it is very easy to get right. Pizza Express for the most part gets it right on pretty much every high street in the country.
I'm definitely not expecting Michelin levels of service, but basic high-street restaurant chain levels would be nice.
I'm definitely not expecting Michelin levels of service, but basic high-street restaurant chain levels would be nice.
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The food is what it is, but it's the service that is frequently terrible. The simple fact is that it is very easy to get right. Pizza Express for the most part gets it right on pretty much every high street in the country.
I'm definitely not expecting Michelin levels of service, but basic high-street restaurant chain levels would be nice.
I'm definitely not expecting Michelin levels of service, but basic high-street restaurant chain levels would be nice.
Also, some of them are just miserable, but then having seen some of the appalling behaviour on the part of some passengers towards them, I'm not so surprised they look the way the do.
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The managers have always been happy to chat, particularly when I have commented on one of their staff.
I echo the comments made about hoping the staff remain.
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The problem, as I see it, is the number of staff or the lack thereof. When it's quiet, you can get consistently decent service in GF. However, when it's busy, they are run off their feet and you can't easy get served and plates are not cleared away for ages.
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The Gatwick lounge offerings (Club, not F) are an utter embarrassment, so hopefully this will improve the offering somewhat.
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With the exception of the staff management issues I doubt much will be changing. It's unlikely that the budget will have risen much (in fact if the tender was as competitive as the article suggests it's likely that the budget may have dropped, in which case we can look forward to a dreaded 'efficiency drive'). If BA are paying for rubbish then that's what they'll get.
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With the exception of the staff management issues I doubt much will be changing. It's unlikely that the budget will have risen much (in fact if the tender was as competitive as the article suggests it's likely that the budget may have dropped, in which case we can look forward to a dreaded 'efficiency drive'). .
Better to spread the budget across all the lounges rather than concentrate it all on one I would say.
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1. Where you sit. The Terrace is the "must be ignored" zone.
2. What you order. Stuff that has no choice but to be cooked freshly tends to turn up while hot.
3. Who you get in the dining area. There is a bunch of them who remember me and are rather attentive (although everyone should get good service). I have been pretty lucky overall.
Food delivery can be pretty slow though, so if I'm in a hurry, I hop off to the GF. I was having a chat with GF guardians and was saying that there should be a small buffet area in the CCR for those in a hurry.
Ha ha, you haven't seen the food on offer at Star Alliance LHR T1 lounge in that case?
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I think the CCR experience depends on:
1. Where you sit. The Terrace is the "must be ignored" zone.
2. What you order. Stuff that has no choice but to be cooked freshly tends to turn up while hot.
3. Who you get in the dining area. There is a bunch of them who remember me and are rather attentive (although everyone should get good service). I have been pretty lucky overall ...
1. Where you sit. The Terrace is the "must be ignored" zone.
2. What you order. Stuff that has no choice but to be cooked freshly tends to turn up while hot.
3. Who you get in the dining area. There is a bunch of them who remember me and are rather attentive (although everyone should get good service). I have been pretty lucky overall ...
The food can be on the warm side, but not always. Some slate the burger but my son loves them. A couple of guests I've taken to the CCR also have commented on them being tasty - including an American FTer! I don't mind them myself, but I'm not a big burger fan.
In the Dinning Room, yes there is usually a short wait. I suppose waiting time is a relative matter, what may be long to one person may be just about right for another who is simply passing the time away.