Refused lounge access [flying domestic; no recognition of same day qualifying flight]
#376
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Based on observation that this problem still occurs. It's a simple problem, and BA could stamp it out easily. It's not just one member of the lounge staff that refuses to pay attention, we've had reports of the managers too.
There are 3 lounges. 3 sheets of A4 stating that access is granted for people with a boarding pass in CE would be easy to put out. The fact BA refuse to do this, despite the numerous complaints made, means that it is their de-facto policy.
3 options
1) It's not BA policy, BA have made this clear numerous times, BA lounge staff are deliberately refusing access knowing full well access should be granted, and they need to be fired quickly.
2) It is BA policy to refuse entry
3) BA are too incompetent to print 3 pieces of laminated paper out, one for each lounge, stating that in this instance access is granted.
If it's 3, and BA know this is a problem (as they do), then it's defacto BA policy anyway.
There are 3 lounges. 3 sheets of A4 stating that access is granted for people with a boarding pass in CE would be easy to put out. The fact BA refuse to do this, despite the numerous complaints made, means that it is their de-facto policy.
3 options
1) It's not BA policy, BA have made this clear numerous times, BA lounge staff are deliberately refusing access knowing full well access should be granted, and they need to be fired quickly.
2) It is BA policy to refuse entry
3) BA are too incompetent to print 3 pieces of laminated paper out, one for each lounge, stating that in this instance access is granted.
If it's 3, and BA know this is a problem (as they do), then it's defacto BA policy anyway.
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There is still an ongoing problem getting miles and TPs after MFUs/paid upgrades from WT+ to CW - does that mean the refusal to give them is BA policy since it is something they could have fixed and have not?
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That's not a simple fix. Not as simple as some laminated signs.
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Is not this post from a little over 6 months ago still relevant:
Inbound club europe and club world / First passengers, whichever flight they are transferring onto can use the lounge.
The staff were wrong and the correct information is in the lounge guide which is on the desk in a folder.
Here is the correct information
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5...sengersac3.jpg
The staff were wrong and the correct information is in the lounge guide which is on the desk in a folder.
Here is the correct information
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5...sengersac3.jpg
#380
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Dear all
I just wanted to clarify that tickets connecting to Club Europe from a domestic sector are eligible for lounge access. When this arose before we did re-issue the lounge policy guide to the lounge teams and also followed up with internal communications.
I have asked for this to be re-iterated to avoid this happening again. Many apologies for the issues this caused to the most recent poster on this
Warm regards
Nicci
I just wanted to clarify that tickets connecting to Club Europe from a domestic sector are eligible for lounge access. When this arose before we did re-issue the lounge policy guide to the lounge teams and also followed up with internal communications.
I have asked for this to be re-iterated to avoid this happening again. Many apologies for the issues this caused to the most recent poster on this
Warm regards
Nicci
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Dear all
I just wanted to clarify that tickets connecting to Club Europe from a domestic sector are eligible for lounge access. When this arose before we did re-issue the lounge policy guide to the lounge teams and also followed up with internal communications.
I have asked for this to be re-iterated to avoid this happening again. Many apologies for the issues this caused to the most recent poster on this
Warm regards
Nicci
I just wanted to clarify that tickets connecting to Club Europe from a domestic sector are eligible for lounge access. When this arose before we did re-issue the lounge policy guide to the lounge teams and also followed up with internal communications.
I have asked for this to be re-iterated to avoid this happening again. Many apologies for the issues this caused to the most recent poster on this
Warm regards
Nicci
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e.g. On a Club Europe flight from Paris to London connecting to a economy sector to Aberdeen.
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Thanks again to Nicci for requesting this be re-iterated - hopefully both the inbound and outbound aspects please!!
Last edited by EDIflyer; Jul 4, 2013 at 11:51 am
#384
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Dear all
I just wanted to clarify that tickets connecting to Club Europe from a domestic sector are eligible for lounge access. When this arose before we did re-issue the lounge policy guide to the lounge teams and also followed up with internal communications.
I have asked for this to be re-iterated to avoid this happening again. Many apologies for the issues this caused to the most recent poster on this
Warm regards
Nicci
I just wanted to clarify that tickets connecting to Club Europe from a domestic sector are eligible for lounge access. When this arose before we did re-issue the lounge policy guide to the lounge teams and also followed up with internal communications.
I have asked for this to be re-iterated to avoid this happening again. Many apologies for the issues this caused to the most recent poster on this
Warm regards
Nicci
The problem is connecting to a domestic flight, from a Club Europe flight when on an Avios Redemption booking.
Can you provide a hard written response confirming access in these circumstances?
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Refused lounge access [flying domestic but no recognition of same day CE flight]
Apologies if I was unclear - this applies to flights connecting to and from a domestic flight and that is what is being re-iterated
Nicci
Nicci
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Not unless Stuttgart still departs from T1, I believe that page is at least 5 years old
There is obviously a belief that CE to Domestic does not give lounge access coming from somewhere. It's a very specific situation.
So what happens next month when 3 of us (Gold, Silver, Bronze) arrive at Galleries North after a CE flight onto a domestic, and are rejected because
A simple poster on the desk visible to the passenger to point at is all that's needed. They can do this at Newcastle.
As for recent reassurances
15 months since they knew there was a problem. How long does it take to send an all-staff-email along the lines of:
No, I maintain that BA as a whole is unwilling to solve this. I'm sure that BA Executive Club is correct, as far as her department goes, but BA as a whole is a different beast.
If I go to a shop and say "our policy is to always give receipts", however receipts are not given, for months, or years, on end, I call BS to their printed policy.
There is obviously a belief that CE to Domestic does not give lounge access coming from somewhere. It's a very specific situation.
So what happens next month when 3 of us (Gold, Silver, Bronze) arrive at Galleries North after a CE flight onto a domestic, and are rejected because
" Look you're a short haul inbound passenger, so just like the arrivals lounge you don't get access to that, that's lounge is only for inbound long haul J and F passengers only, same goes for this lounge. "
As for recent reassurances
I was denied entry in April 2012, 11 months ago, Nicci herself came on here and said that Lounge managers had been alerted to this fact and that still months later there are issues (with duty managers even not being aware of the correct policies).
There has been some confusion over lounge access for our valuable passengers that pay your wages.
Anyone arriving on a CE flight and departing on a same day Domestic flight has lounge access. Failure to allow access will result in immediate dismissal
Anyone arriving on a CE flight and departing on a same day Domestic flight has lounge access. Failure to allow access will result in immediate dismissal
If I go to a shop and say "our policy is to always give receipts", however receipts are not given, for months, or years, on end, I call BS to their printed policy.
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Surely, if you're concerned, the best thing to do is phone BA and get them to email you stating you're entitled to lounge access.
If everyone did this, the extra work load should soon get them to sort out making sure all staff are aware of the policy.
If everyone did this, the extra work load should soon get them to sort out making sure all staff are aware of the policy.
#388
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That's great re the clarification. But is this the case with a stopover in London? I was refused in Manchester because of the stopover of more than 24 hours, though I got some Avios compensation when I complained. But then on my next reward flight from with a stopover, I did get access, albeit with an email printout saying that I did.
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Just to say I had a great experience at Glasgow a week or so back. Was allowed into the lounge because I had a connecting CE flight within 24 hours even though they were separate bookings.
I was worried that because the CE flight was the next day I wouldn't be allowed access, however, upon explaining my flight from LGW was at 8am, and as such a same day connection wasn't possible, I was allowed in.
I somehow don't think the same would have occurred if I'd tried to get access in similar circumstances at LHR.
I was worried that because the CE flight was the next day I wouldn't be allowed access, however, upon explaining my flight from LGW was at 8am, and as such a same day connection wasn't possible, I was allowed in.
I somehow don't think the same would have occurred if I'd tried to get access in similar circumstances at LHR.
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Dear all
I just wanted to clarify that tickets connecting to Club Europe from a domestic sector are eligible for lounge access. When this arose before we did re-issue the lounge policy guide to the lounge teams and also followed up with internal communications.
I have asked for this to be re-iterated to avoid this happening again. Many apologies for the issues this caused to the most recent poster on this
Warm regards
Nicci
I just wanted to clarify that tickets connecting to Club Europe from a domestic sector are eligible for lounge access. When this arose before we did re-issue the lounge policy guide to the lounge teams and also followed up with internal communications.
I have asked for this to be re-iterated to avoid this happening again. Many apologies for the issues this caused to the most recent poster on this
Warm regards
Nicci
Will printing this forum response extinguish the fierce tongue a lounge dragon?