Avios Rewards Flight Saver Tax rise on 8OCT!
Sep 10, 2012, 7:04 am
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Sep 10, 2012, 7:09 am
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Indeed.....I wish the same could be said for WT award bookings. The cash element in those are pretty horrendous. I was looking at a routing yesterday and found there was more value to be had by booking a revenue ticket.
By spending an extra £150 I'd not only save myself 80,000 Avios but I'd earn 13,000 Avios and 95 tier points.
By spending an extra £150 I'd not only save myself 80,000 Avios but I'd earn 13,000 Avios and 95 tier points.
However I realise many people don't need flexibility, or aren't prepared to pay for it, so perhaps what BA should introduce a non-flexible WT redemption, with much lower fees / no fuel surcharge?
Sep 10, 2012, 7:18 am
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I suspect you weren't comparing like with like, was the cash ticket fully flexible?
However I realise many people don't need flexibility, or aren't prepared to pay for it, so perhaps what BA should introduce a non-flexible WT redemption, with much lower fees / no fuel surcharge?
However I realise many people don't need flexibility, or aren't prepared to pay for it, so perhaps what BA should introduce a non-flexible WT redemption, with much lower fees / no fuel surcharge?
I'd aslo suggest that some people on FT overvalue the flexible element of the fare - the vast majority of folk book a flight for a holiday (using whatever currency) and use it on those dates. Your proposal sounds sensible but would they discount the existing rate up increase for flexible tickets?
I'll admit I have cancelled award seats before but in most cases had this been a cash fare I would have just stuck with it.
Sep 10, 2012, 7:20 am
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I know I am probably an anomaly but on every occasion I tried to find a reward seat (for UuA) on the date I wanted, I found one (or two or six, even nine - I only needed one)
Sep 10, 2012, 7:24 am
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Yes, according to the website:
https://www.avios.com/spend/cp/rewar...FS&pers=false/
It's very clear: "If you book before 8 October 2012, the fee is £27 in Economy Class and £34 in Business Class. After this date, our prices are rising by a small amount to £30 in Economy and £40 in Business."
https://www.avios.com/spend/cp/rewar...FS&pers=false/
It's very clear: "If you book before 8 October 2012, the fee is £27 in Economy Class and £34 in Business Class. After this date, our prices are rising by a small amount to £30 in Economy and £40 in Business."
Sep 10, 2012, 7:25 am
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I know when i travelled to the US at the end of June cash fares were around £1000 which i didn't have (and that was the inflexible tickets) so i sighed a little and used avios for Y, the person next to me on the flight (i say next she had window and middle seat was free) had also booked using Avios, flight wasn't too bad either 
But i do know i've also spent plenty of time trying to explain to my parents and various friends the upsides of Avios and i'm not entirely sure they get it even now
But i do know i've also spent plenty of time trying to explain to my parents and various friends the upsides of Avios and i'm not entirely sure they get it even now
Sep 10, 2012, 7:34 am
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I heard some of those 'upper' class of people (still existed in UK btw) will never bother to sign up as they think it will make them loosing face if their circle of friends knew that they used 'free' tickets in premier classes...thus look cheapo...But hey, I have no complaint. Those people contribute most portion of the profit! I think Avios Rewards Saver is still a bargain but a little bit more expensive will kill the deal. I think the break point for me would be £45 for economy class before 2025 (consider inflation and varies taxes issues).
Sep 10, 2012, 7:40 am
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I agree......I suspect it's only a very small minority who take advantage of that flexibility especially in WT. Anyway.....once inside 24 hours before departure that benefit has gone anyway and I'd rather lose £500 than 80,000 Avios plus £350.
Sep 10, 2012, 8:04 am
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Sep 10, 2012, 8:30 am
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I think there should ideally be an option to pay the TFC with Avios.
M&M do this with their European flights.
I am not fussed about the cash components myself as I only tend to UuA but it will achieve two things: 1) people will complain less about the TFC, 2) reduce the Avios in circulation because people will be using Avios to pay for the TFC, increasing the award availability for those of us who earn quite a lot of them.
M&M do this with their European flights.
I am not fussed about the cash components myself as I only tend to UuA but it will achieve two things: 1) people will complain less about the TFC, 2) reduce the Avios in circulation because people will be using Avios to pay for the TFC, increasing the award availability for those of us who earn quite a lot of them.
Sep 10, 2012, 8:32 am
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Well, up to a point. Our CPT-PLZ would have incurred 9,000 Avios and £42 flat fee per person in ET so we booked revenue flights. £42 is already higher than ET in Europe but at least it remains £42.
Must have something to do with APD not being relevant and stable-ish fuel prices.
Sep 10, 2012, 8:33 am
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What isn't so clear is that these numbers are for round-trip travel. That may underline the value that there is in RFS, if you're looking on a route on which there is availability.
Sep 10, 2012, 9:11 am
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