bmi : The formal decision tree on when to do your BA status match!
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can aNyone give the definitive answer to this - I thought it was the case that if you were BA gold and DC gold and did the status match you would get a full year from that point as BA gold - very handy if you have a relatively fallow few months with BA flights. If you lose your BA tier points but with no change in the BA year end I don't see why anyone would want to do this.
Is there no definate statement on this from BA?
Is there no definate statement on this from BA?
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can aNyone give the definitive answer to this - I thought it was the case that if you were BA gold and DC gold and did the status match you would get a full year from that point as BA gold - very handy if you have a relatively fallow few months with BA flights. If you lose your BA tier points but with no change in the BA year end I don't see why anyone would want to do this.
Is there no definate statement on this from BA?
Is there no definate statement on this from BA?
Prospero - reports to date show that BA is not giving 1 year but giving all current year and the next. Hence the need for this thread!
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I've requested official clarification on the duration of matched tiers.
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Excellent thread, Raffles, and your FT dedication is to be admired. Posting at 06:38 after working on the post for an hour implies a very early start.
I'm in the para 2 situation (BD silver, BA bronze). Without the match, I would qualify for BA silver again by late August. I'm not sure this is specifically covered in your brief.
AIUI, I have these options:
- matching on 9 July (my BD membership year end is 17 July, BA is 8 December) gives me BA silver to December 2013 + grace period.
- NOT matching but qualifying for BA silver in late August gives me BA silver to August 2013 + grace period.
So matching on 9 July gives me BA silver for July/August 2012 and September-December 2013 in addition to the requalifying position? Is that right? If so, it simplifies my decision.
Oh, BTW. I'd recommend DC members for whom timing is critical to check their DC membership years. Mrs Roger's is 2 1/2 months before card expiry.
I'm in the para 2 situation (BD silver, BA bronze). Without the match, I would qualify for BA silver again by late August. I'm not sure this is specifically covered in your brief.
AIUI, I have these options:
- matching on 9 July (my BD membership year end is 17 July, BA is 8 December) gives me BA silver to December 2013 + grace period.
- NOT matching but qualifying for BA silver in late August gives me BA silver to August 2013 + grace period.
So matching on 9 July gives me BA silver for July/August 2012 and September-December 2013 in addition to the requalifying position? Is that right? If so, it simplifies my decision.
Oh, BTW. I'd recommend DC members for whom timing is critical to check their DC membership years. Mrs Roger's is 2 1/2 months before card expiry.
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Cards sent out to date all reflect a 2014 expiry, looking at the main thread above.
Anyway, BA has promised a 12 month match, so they cannot just let it run to the current year as that would only be 1 to 11 months. I think, from a IT view, what they are doing is the only sensible thing.
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Whatever happened to 'don't call the airline'?!
Cards sent out to date all reflect a 2014 expiry, looking at the main thread above.
Anyway, BA has promised a 12 month match, so they cannot just let it run to the current year as that would only be 1 to 11 months. I think, from a IT view, what they are doing is the only sensible thing.
Cards sent out to date all reflect a 2014 expiry, looking at the main thread above.
Anyway, BA has promised a 12 month match, so they cannot just let it run to the current year as that would only be 1 to 11 months. I think, from a IT view, what they are doing is the only sensible thing.
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Excellent thread, Raffles, and your FT dedication is to be admired. Posting at 06:38 after working on the post for an hour implies a very early start.
I'm in the para 2 situation (BD silver, BA bronze). Without the match, I would qualify for BA silver again by late August. I'm not sure this is specifically covered in your brief.
AIUI, I have these options:
- matching on 9 July (my BD membership year end is 17 July, BA is 8 December) gives me BA silver to December 2013 + grace period.
- NOT matching but qualifying for BA silver in late August gives me BA silver to August 2013 + grace period.
So matching on 9 July gives me BA silver for July/August 2012 and September-December 2013 in addition to the requalifying position? Is that right? If so, it simplifies my decision.
Oh, BTW. I'd recommend DC members for whom timing is critical to check their DC membership years. Mrs Roger's is 2 1/2 months before card expiry.
I'm in the para 2 situation (BD silver, BA bronze). Without the match, I would qualify for BA silver again by late August. I'm not sure this is specifically covered in your brief.
AIUI, I have these options:
- matching on 9 July (my BD membership year end is 17 July, BA is 8 December) gives me BA silver to December 2013 + grace period.
- NOT matching but qualifying for BA silver in late August gives me BA silver to August 2013 + grace period.
So matching on 9 July gives me BA silver for July/August 2012 and September-December 2013 in addition to the requalifying position? Is that right? If so, it simplifies my decision.
Oh, BTW. I'd recommend DC members for whom timing is critical to check their DC membership years. Mrs Roger's is 2 1/2 months before card expiry.
The 9th thing does not apply when changing BA tier, you also don't get a year reset. There is no point in you matching, unless you do it now and benefit from Silver between now and August. Whatever you do, you will be Silver until December 2013.
Even if you do not match, because your year no longer resets when changing tier, your new status runs to Dec and not August - you are mistaken on your last assumption.
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Thanks very much, Raffles.
I can see clearly now, as Johnny Nash might say.
Oh, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkwJ-g0iJ6w
I can see clearly now, as Johnny Nash might say.
Oh, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkwJ-g0iJ6w
#27
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Am I right in assuming then that matching from DC*G to BA Gold, but already being BA Gold with a membership date ending 8th September, would reset my membership year to 8th August if I matched on July 20th?
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Thanks, Raffles, for that clear exposition.
The one scenario that remains unproven, though - and it is important, because it concerns every DC member who has not so far been a member of BAEC - is the following:
1) you are a DC Silver or Gold at the moment and have at least a month or two before the end of your DC membership year;
2) you have joined BAEC in the past few days;
3) you are waiting to request your status match because you want to maximise the length of your BAEC status
Firstly, everyone who has joined in the past few days has been given a membership year ending on June 8th 2013 and not May 8th, and no-one knows quite why. Several people have posted about this, and I have friends who are not FTers who have reported the same.
Secondly, none of us in this situation has yet asked for the status match, so we do not know for sure that new members' BAEC membership years will not be reset and any tier points we may have earned before the status match lost.
I had planned to test this out, expecting a BAEC membership year ending 8th May 2013, and then applying for a status match (after 9th May) before I took my first flight on 28th May. But having being given a membership year ending June 8th 2013, I now have to wait until June 9th (and after my flight). In fact, because my next flight will be in September, I need to wait longer than that (until just before I fly), just in case they do reset my membership year and I waste the first three months of a single year's Gold Status.
It will be a few weeks (after June 9th?), before we know whether all this will work. Based on those who have already been BAEC Blue (or Silver if matching to Gold) for somewhile, we hope it will, but, so far, we have no actual evidence for the common scenario outlined above.
The one scenario that remains unproven, though - and it is important, because it concerns every DC member who has not so far been a member of BAEC - is the following:
1) you are a DC Silver or Gold at the moment and have at least a month or two before the end of your DC membership year;
2) you have joined BAEC in the past few days;
3) you are waiting to request your status match because you want to maximise the length of your BAEC status
Firstly, everyone who has joined in the past few days has been given a membership year ending on June 8th 2013 and not May 8th, and no-one knows quite why. Several people have posted about this, and I have friends who are not FTers who have reported the same.
Secondly, none of us in this situation has yet asked for the status match, so we do not know for sure that new members' BAEC membership years will not be reset and any tier points we may have earned before the status match lost.
I had planned to test this out, expecting a BAEC membership year ending 8th May 2013, and then applying for a status match (after 9th May) before I took my first flight on 28th May. But having being given a membership year ending June 8th 2013, I now have to wait until June 9th (and after my flight). In fact, because my next flight will be in September, I need to wait longer than that (until just before I fly), just in case they do reset my membership year and I waste the first three months of a single year's Gold Status.
It will be a few weeks (after June 9th?), before we know whether all this will work. Based on those who have already been BAEC Blue (or Silver if matching to Gold) for somewhile, we hope it will, but, so far, we have no actual evidence for the common scenario outlined above.
Last edited by rangerss75; May 5, 2012 at 7:21 am