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Old Mar 31, 12, 4:57 am
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BA or AA

I have two options for an upcoming trip and was wondering what the experts on here would recommend:

Either
BA FRA-LHR-LAS in J

or
AA FRA-DFW-LAS in J

I'm fairly familiar with the BA product but only had one experience on AA domestic Y (been trying very hard to forget it). I assume the AA domestic legs would book in F? Any difference in tier points on the two routes?
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Old Mar 31, 12, 5:03 am
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I've never flown AA J - but I have walked through the cabin from F on a B777. On that alone I wouldn't hesitate at choosing BA.

The seats on the B777 in J are 2x3x2 and they looked quite cramped.
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Old Mar 31, 12, 5:03 am
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For me it would be BA FRA-LHR-LAS as it would be J on a 744 (over a 777 on AA). That swings it enough for me.

Your LHR-LAS flight will be crewed by Mixed Fleet, but I have never experienced any of the horrors that some on FT have - I find them extremely friendly, helpful and passionate. I would not avoid a flight on the basis of it being MF operated.
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Hi,

On AA you would need to clear customs and immigration in DFW then get a domestic F to LAS . ON BA you would clear in LAS.

As a BA gold you should be able to get an upper deck seat on the 747 LHR-LAS flight.

Tier points on AA = 140+60 for the F cabin DFW-LAS=200 o/w
Tier points on BA= 40 ( for inter european ) + 140 =180 o/w

Slightly more tier points on AA but the general view i think is that BA J > AA J ( YMMV) plus you get GF at LHR T5.

I would probably choose BA

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Old Mar 31, 12, 5:13 am
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Thanks. Will probably go BA then. UD or maybe MFU to F outweighs 20 TP.
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Originally Posted by sschwenk View Post
Thanks. Will probably go BA then. UD or maybe MFU to F outweighs 20 TP.


That would also be my choice!

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Old Mar 31, 12, 7:50 am
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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK View Post
I've never flown AA J - but I have walked through the cabin from F on a B777. On that alone I wouldn't hesitate at choosing BA.

The seats on the B777 in J are 2x3x2 and they looked quite cramped.
I can't back this up with precise measurements but, having flown both, I'm pretty sure AA's 777 J seat is wider.
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No question, BA!
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Old Mar 31, 12, 9:45 am
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Yep, BA all the way. Have to say though the f&b on AA is better I think.
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Old Mar 31, 12, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by Blueboys999 View Post
I can't back this up with precise measurements but, having flown both, I'm pretty sure AA's 777 J seat is wider.
Of only academic interest since FRA-DFW is presently operated using 763 equipment. The J seats on AA's 767s are actually a little narrower than those on AA's 777s, but still, I believe, a little wider than BA's.

Most of us think that AA's J service on the 763s is a real step up over comparable 777 flights, closer to F than 777 J (better staff/passenger ratio, etc.) And although the seats aren't flat beds, they're pretty comfortable (to me) and if you get one of the middle pair, nobody climbing over you since it's 2-2-2.

DFW is a breeze for immigration etc. - I recently did a international > domestic transfer (different terminal) in 25 min. all in.
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A small dissenting voice crying in the wilderness here!

On the way back to FRA it will be more tedious to get off a longhaul and then have to go on a shorthaul than just getting off a longhaul and going home.

Which is an argument in favour of AA.
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Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot View Post
Hi,

On AA you would need to clear customs and immigration in DFW then get a domestic F to LAS . ON BA you would clear in LAS.

As a BA gold you should be able to get an upper deck seat on the 747 LHR-LAS flight.

Tier points on AA = 140+60 for the F cabin DFW-LAS=200 o/w
Tier points on BA= 40 ( for inter european ) + 140 =180 o/w

Slightly more tier points on AA but the general view i think is that BA J > AA J ( YMMV) plus you get GF at LHR T5.

I would probably choose BA

Regards

TBS
Absolutely agree with TBS. BA is best choice. Not so sure about any TP advantage with AA. In my experience, a J ticket on AA with domestic connection puts you in the First cabin (on two-class plane) for the domestic sector but with ticket showing 'Business' and with J TPs = 40TPs. If the domestic flight is on three-class: you get seated in Biz.
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Originally Posted by sschwenk View Post
I have two options for an upcoming trip and was wondering what the experts on here would recommend:

Either
BA FRA-LHR-LAS in J

or
AA FRA-DFW-LAS in J

I'm fairly familiar with the BA product but only had one experience on AA domestic Y (been trying very hard to forget it). I assume the AA domestic legs would book in F? Any difference in tier points on the two routes?
Got to ask - why did you not also post the same on the AA board? My poor psychology skills suggest that maybe you wanted support for a BA decision rather than an evenhanded response which could have fallen onto the AA side?

Have to say that is what I would have done - as I would have wanted the BA option supported/chosen for me

Regarding Sixth Freedom concern over LH/SH order - could you go BA FRA to LAS (via LHR) but AA back (via DFW). Again not my preference but is it even practical?

Either way - enjoy LAS - or at least the destination
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Old Mar 31, 12, 10:11 pm
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Simple. Flatbed wins over non-flatbed every time. AA's current J seat is probably the worst wedgie bed I've flown, ever. OK for a daytime flight though it feels quite cramped. Very disappointing for an overnight.

AA Domestic F is perfectly pleasant though check the meal windows. Some flights where you'd expect a decent meal are only a snack.
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Old Mar 31, 12, 11:06 pm
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Got to ask - why did you not also post the same on the AA board?
Cross-posting is a no-no.
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