Using Avios for short haul is a real cost saver
#1
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Using Avios for short haul is a real cost saver
I know this has been discussed before, but I finally have the opportunity to try it out and appreciate it. I have taken many award trips to EDI from LYS. My last ticket, pre-Avios, cost €173.99 in fees and surcharges, plus 9000 miles. I just claimed a new award which costs only €27 plus 9000 miles. I may never purchase a revenue ticket for a trip to the UK again!
Plus I get to load up on Champagne at the T5 GF while swinging through LHR.
Thanks IAG!
Plus I get to load up on Champagne at the T5 GF while swinging through LHR.

#4
Join Date: Apr 2008
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I know this has been discussed before, but I finally have the opportunity to try it out and appreciate it. I have taken many award trips to EDI from LYS. My last ticket, pre-Avios, cost €173.99 in fees and surcharges, plus 9000 miles. I just claimed a new award which costs only €27 plus 9000 miles. I may never purchase a revenue ticket for a trip to the UK again!
Plus I get to load up on Champagne at the T5 GF while swinging through LHR.
Thanks IAG!
Plus I get to load up on Champagne at the T5 GF while swinging through LHR.

#5
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Dorchester, Dorset UK
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I've used this 'perk' to get my son to and from Austria, when previously the fare was around £100 plus excess baggage for his skis etc. Now all of that is included and he get's spoiled in the lounge!
#6
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 623
It's even better value from the regions!
We've done 3 CE Reward Flight Saver trips from MAN to PRG, MUC and CPH since they launched. Also burned a 2for1 that was about to expire on the PRG trip making it even better value. Looking to do another one before my son turns 2 in May and needs his own seat.
We've done 3 CE Reward Flight Saver trips from MAN to PRG, MUC and CPH since they launched. Also burned a 2for1 that was about to expire on the PRG trip making it even better value. Looking to do another one before my son turns 2 in May and needs his own seat.
#7
Join Date: Oct 2011
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Even better when you use a cash plus avios awards. When I book last minute and fares are £160 plus , I use the 2250 avios and £38.50 option, excellent value.
Normally add on a GLA flight as well a month or two later to visit family.
Normally add on a GLA flight as well a month or two later to visit family.
#9
Join Date: May 2010
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I always use my miles for S/H ET or CE tickets.
My wife has a sister in Chamonix and we pop over pretty regularly, now for £27 each. Also, since the arrival of OT Jnr (now 18 weeks old) we're unlikely to longhaul for a while, so we've booked our first flight with him to Gibraltar for a couple of days, again at £27 a pop. (the benefit here is that it's a hotter version of the UK, red post boxes and Boot's standard range of baby care products).
My wife has a sister in Chamonix and we pop over pretty regularly, now for £27 each. Also, since the arrival of OT Jnr (now 18 weeks old) we're unlikely to longhaul for a while, so we've booked our first flight with him to Gibraltar for a couple of days, again at £27 a pop. (the benefit here is that it's a hotter version of the UK, red post boxes and Boot's standard range of baby care products).
#10
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Somehow I cannot bring myself to burn miles on SH. Especially since an upgrade from WTP to CW on TATL is such excellent value at 10K per flight...
#11
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Agreed 100%. I have flights from Aberdeen to both Berlin and Nice over the Summer for what is really very little money.
Nice is CE (well, for sheer potential comedy value on board - it is NCE, after all!), and my Avios-poor friend was even able to use the 'sliding scale' of Avios/£ towards this.
I haven't had to compromise much on flight times, either - most connections were available when I made the reservations.
I just hope that BA don't realise 'how good we have it' and take it all away...maybe posting (boasting?!) online isn't such a good idea!
Nice is CE (well, for sheer potential comedy value on board - it is NCE, after all!), and my Avios-poor friend was even able to use the 'sliding scale' of Avios/£ towards this.
I haven't had to compromise much on flight times, either - most connections were available when I made the reservations.
I just hope that BA don't realise 'how good we have it' and take it all away...maybe posting (boasting?!) online isn't such a good idea!

#12
Join Date: Aug 2009
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I just booked 4 MAN-LHR-VIE returns in Y over the Jubilee weekend. Cost to buy those flights: £1540; cost using Avios: £108 + 60000 miles. I must admit that I think that is a great deal.
I take the point about using Avios for LH MFU between WT+ and CW too but for me 60k Avios is a small fraction of my total balance so I was happy to burn them on a family trip to Europe.
I take the point about using Avios for LH MFU between WT+ and CW too but for me 60k Avios is a small fraction of my total balance so I was happy to burn them on a family trip to Europe.
#13
Join Date: Jan 2010
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As any fule kno on this board, the most effective way of spending Avios is on LH upgrades.
Sadly for folks like me who baulk at even WT+ prices I don't even consider it. I just redeemed 40K avios to get me a £450 discount on a LHR-DOH return next month in Y and I'm delighted with that. £200 for a return flight to the Middle East is fine by me.
My father once taught me a valuable lesson in that "the biggest marketing trick in the book is that you will save more by spending more".
Sadly for folks like me who baulk at even WT+ prices I don't even consider it. I just redeemed 40K avios to get me a £450 discount on a LHR-DOH return next month in Y and I'm delighted with that. £200 for a return flight to the Middle East is fine by me.
My father once taught me a valuable lesson in that "the biggest marketing trick in the book is that you will save more by spending more".
#14
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Even better in the US. Just used 7,500 Avios (plus $2.50 in fees) for a one-way LGA-MSP. Would have been 12,500 AA miles.
Buying the ticket would have been $430, so I'm getting US$0.057/mile. Not bad at all.
Buying the ticket would have been $430, so I'm getting US$0.057/mile. Not bad at all.
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I'm stunned I know this. Eminem, the rapper, is from and 8 Mile Road is in Detroit.
I saw this change as one of the true positives in the BAEC revisions (I refuse to call it a devaluation) last fall. Short-haul flights can be vastly more expensive than long haul flights in the US (and other places I gather). Most of the US FF programs require at least 25K miles to redeem, no matter the length of the flight, so if I want to redeem on a flight from ORF to JFK, I can either spend 25K AA miles or 9K Avios for a flight that generally costs $350 RT. This fall, I'll take my two younger sisters to New York City for a long weekend and will drop 27K Avios and about $15 to do it.
I saw this change as one of the true positives in the BAEC revisions (I refuse to call it a devaluation) last fall. Short-haul flights can be vastly more expensive than long haul flights in the US (and other places I gather). Most of the US FF programs require at least 25K miles to redeem, no matter the length of the flight, so if I want to redeem on a flight from ORF to JFK, I can either spend 25K AA miles or 9K Avios for a flight that generally costs $350 RT. This fall, I'll take my two younger sisters to New York City for a long weekend and will drop 27K Avios and about $15 to do it.