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Old Feb 26, 2012, 11:56 am
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Flight from Gatwick to Orlando cancelled today

Any idea why ?
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Old Feb 26, 2012, 12:23 pm
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Appears to be G-VIIA out of service.

BA2153/BA2152 LGW-BGI-TAB was cancelled yesterday.
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Old Feb 26, 2012, 1:35 pm
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Sort it out lads and lasses! That shouldn't happen...
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Old Feb 26, 2012, 2:17 pm
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Sort it out lads and lasses! That shouldn't happen...
Well, yes and no. It is unreasonable to expect some of the most complex machines and systems man has ever made to be functional all the time. Not with the prices we pay to fly!

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Old Feb 26, 2012, 2:24 pm
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I don't know why the service went 'tech' but believe me BA does everything it can do get services away. It must have been a serious problem. Aircraft are complex beasts and as pilots we won't accept any problem that we aren't happy with. BA engineers are the best in the business and if they can't fix it, nobody can.
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 2:29 am
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Do BA ever cancel planes because loadings are too low?
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 3:15 am
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Do BA ever cancel planes because loadings are too low?
Yes, in the quieter months you will sometimes see the second BGI cancelled for this reason. When the LAX was kept 3 times daily in the winter, one of the three was often bumped for this reason. (One february was particularly notorious for it).

But this doesnt happen too often as it annoys not only passengers, but those who control the slots and those who hand out the route licences etc., so it is not an option taken lightly.
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 3:47 am
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Originally Posted by A P Yu
Originally Posted by paulwuk
Do BA ever cancel planes because loadings are too low?
Yes, in the quieter months you will sometimes see the second BGI cancelled for this reason. When the LAX was kept 3 times daily in the winter, one of the three was often bumped for this reason. (One february was particularly notorious for it).

But this doesnt happen too often as it annoys not only passengers, but those who control the slots and those who hand out the route licences etc., so it is not an option taken lightly.


Generally this is done months in advance however


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Old Feb 27, 2012, 4:16 am
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Originally Posted by cornishsimon
Generally this is done months in advance however

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They have got better over the last few years but sadly they do sometimes happen within a day of departure
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 4:29 am
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Originally Posted by A P Yu
They have got better over the last few years but sadly they do sometimes happen within a day of departure


Really ? due to low loads ?

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Old Feb 27, 2012, 4:59 am
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Originally Posted by cornishsimon
Really ? due to low loads ?

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Yes, sadly. Its only in the days close to departure that you really know how many you have in the J or F cabins as more in these cabins book within the last 14 or even 7 days. I have had a LAX rotation cancelled on the day because of it, we were readdomodated 2 hours later so no great shakes. (Our aircraft actually did depart for LAX but with no passengers so probably had a rich cargo belly or was needed to operate the return, and it was just better to run for BA to run the outward with no passengers).

As you rightly say though Simon, they tend to do more of these cancellations a few months out these days, to minimise inconvenience, but they do occasionally happen.
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 5:14 am
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Originally Posted by A P Yu
Yes, sadly. Its only in the days close to departure that you really know how many you have in the J or F cabins as more in these cabins book within the last 14 or even 7 days. I have had a LAX rotation cancelled on the day because of it, we were readdomodated 2 hours later so no great shakes. (Our aircraft actually did depart for LAX but with no passengers so probably had a rich cargo belly or was needed to operate the return, and it was just better to run for BA to run the outward with no passengers).

As you rightly say though Simon, they tend to do more of these cancellations a few months out these days, to minimise inconvenience, but they do occasionally happen.
If the aircraft ran, then what did BA save? I don't believe that the cancellation you're referring to was due to low loads. Crew shortages perhaps, but low loads? I doubt it.
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 5:33 am
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I guess they saved largely in ground handling type fees? Not fully catering an aircraft probably has a saving associated with it.
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 5:50 am
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I guess they saved largely in ground handling type fees? Not fully catering an aircraft probably has a saving associated with it.
Well, I don't think there's any ground handling savings...the plane still arrived, the BA staff would still be paid, and the catering costs would've just been shifted from the cancelled flight to the flight that ran.

What definitely would've been a cost to BA is any disruption costs, i.e. putting people up in hotels in LAX if they missed connection, loss of the good will of passengers who expected to be on flight "A" only to be delayed onto flight "B".
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Old Feb 27, 2012, 5:56 am
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I recall turning up at IAD for the IAD-LHR daytime flight at around 7am (circa 2002). Flight had been cancelled, and I had been rebooked on the evening flight at 9pm. I assume it was due to low loads as only myself and one other passenger turned up for the flight.

No notification from BA, who obviously expected me to sit airside from 7am to 7pm.

Of course, without a morning flight there were no BA ground staff, and I actually found out by talking to AA ground staff. Amazingly they called BA on my behalf and got them to rebook me onto a United IAD-LHR day flight, resulting in only the shortest of delays in my getting back to LHR.
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