A pretty accurate summary from the pointsguy
Nov 17, 2011, 9:34 am
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Nov 17, 2011, 9:39 am
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Not that accurate. It depends entirely on your POV.
As a non-American, his commentary about more confusing and less valuable seem way off base.
So yeah, it's a blog, he blogs his own view point. And people will either agree or disagree - that does not make what he is saying accurate.
As a non-American, his commentary about more confusing and less valuable seem way off base.
So yeah, it's a blog, he blogs his own view point. And people will either agree or disagree - that does not make what he is saying accurate.
Nov 17, 2011, 9:53 am
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Not that accurate. It depends entirely on your POV.
As a non-American, his commentary about more confusing and less valuable seem way off base.
So yeah, it's a blog, he blogs his own view point. And people will either agree or disagree - that does not make what he is saying accurate.
As a non-American, his commentary about more confusing and less valuable seem way off base.
So yeah, it's a blog, he blogs his own view point. And people will either agree or disagree - that does not make what he is saying accurate.
Nov 17, 2011, 9:55 am
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DTW-ORD-LHR-FCO is not a great example: "many more miles to fly" is actually 32k versus 30k in Y. Since they don't offer F/J on the first leg an "F" trip (Y/F/J) is actually less: 79.5k vs 90k. And "J" (Y/J/J) is 59.5k vs 60k. 
Nov 17, 2011, 9:56 am
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Nov 17, 2011, 10:01 am
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Nov 17, 2011, 10:06 am
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Not that accurate. It depends entirely on your POV.
As a non-American, his commentary about more confusing and less valuable seem way off base.
So yeah, it's a blog, he blogs his own view point. And people will either agree or disagree - that does not make what he is saying accurate.
As a non-American, his commentary about more confusing and less valuable seem way off base.
So yeah, it's a blog, he blogs his own view point. And people will either agree or disagree - that does not make what he is saying accurate.
Exactly. I had loads of "benefits" as an AA member that were made useless to me (and other non USA residents) when AA changed its programme several years ago. I didn't have a blog to complain at the time. I do read the fine print and know that they are within their right to change T&Cs at anytime. Nothing stays the same forever.
I think Avios could be the forerunner to a global oneworld frequent flyer programme. Each airline will tweak their own ones until eventually they'll be mixed into one. Just wait till then!
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Nov 17, 2011, 10:27 am
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And yes, it does also let you go back in and allow yourself to correct typos, if you spot them and feel so inclined.
Nov 17, 2011, 10:37 am
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BA used to have a blanket price from North America to Europe 2. AA still has a blanket price from the US to Europe.
With the new BA system the cost is sensitive to routing, which includes (by no means exhaustive):
AUS-DFW-LHR-FCO
AUS-ORD-LHR-FCO
AUS-JFK-LHR-FCO
AUS-DFW-MAD-FCO
AUS-JFK-FCO
....
well, I'm sure you're getting the picture by now. The "easier way" BA were promising is in fact very confusing, and seems to stem from BA's London-centric approach that really does not understand hub & spoke operations.
Nov 17, 2011, 10:47 am
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It's certainly confusing from my perspective. Let me give you an example: I potentially want to get from Austin to Rome next year, which I can do in several ways according to availability.
BA used to have a blanket price from North America to Europe 2. AA still has a blanket price from the US to Europe.
With the new BA system the cost is sensitive to routing, which includes (by no means exhaustive):
AUS-DFW-LHR-FCO
AUS-ORD-LHR-FCO
AUS-JFK-LHR-FCO
AUS-DFW-MAD-FCO
AUS-JFK-FCO
....
well, I'm sure you're getting the picture by now. The "easier way" BA were promising is in fact very confusing, and seems to stem from BA's London-centric approach that really does not understand hub & spoke operations.
BA used to have a blanket price from North America to Europe 2. AA still has a blanket price from the US to Europe.
With the new BA system the cost is sensitive to routing, which includes (by no means exhaustive):
AUS-DFW-LHR-FCO
AUS-ORD-LHR-FCO
AUS-JFK-LHR-FCO
AUS-DFW-MAD-FCO
AUS-JFK-FCO
....
well, I'm sure you're getting the picture by now. The "easier way" BA were promising is in fact very confusing, and seems to stem from BA's London-centric approach that really does not understand hub & spoke operations.
I do understand that not everyone sees the changes in the way I do - unlike the OP.
Nov 17, 2011, 11:03 am
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Yes, that's why I said the statement about accuracy wasn't accurate. Whether you agree or disagree with the blog will depend on (pretty much) where you are based. So to me, the commentary is not accurate - to you it is. But if we cannot agree it is accuate, then it isn't accurate.
I do understand that not everyone sees the changes in the way I do - unlike the OP.
I do understand that not everyone sees the changes in the way I do - unlike the OP.
If based in FCO and wanting to visit Austin:
FCO-LHR-DFW-AUS
FCO-LHR-ORD-AUS
FCO-LHR-JFK-AUS
FCO-MAD-DFW-AUS
FCO-JFK-AUS
EVEN if based in the center of the universe:
LHR-DFW-AUS
LHR-ORD-AUS
LHR-JFK-AUS
LHR-LAX-DFW-AUS
The propensity of all the LHR based flyers on here to act like the changes are no big deal because they reside in the UK, where they feel BA SHOULD be focusing their program, are getting a bit sickening. It has nothing to do with where you are based....the vast majority of us fly round-trip so the changes are 100% about where you want to go to use your miles.
I'm completely happy for those of you that only ever planned to use your miles on routes that have not been increased in cost...and equally happy for those that can find a way to squeeze more value out of the changes by capitalising on things like the short hall awards. I will certainly adjust my ways to make the most of the new program.
HOWEVER, it's a bit insensitive to completely dismiss the flyers that save (often for years) to once in their life enjoy a long-haul flight in F - only to be told overnight they need 10%, 20%....etc MORE miles. Yeah, it's in BA's Ts&Cs that they can do it, but it doesn't make it any less crappy.
Nov 17, 2011, 11:11 am
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PS - I have amended this post because I didn't put into words what my head was saying. Frankly I see little point in amending this however as my post has been continually re-posted. As said elsewhere I will not post again in this thread as I have no desire to be beaten up emotionally or personally.
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