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Old Jun 18, 2016, 7:31 am
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AS is a long standing BA partner and, as of 31st March 2021, a full member of oneworld. You can book AS flights using your Avios through BA: prior to AS joining oneworld this was only possible on the phone through your local service centre, but it is now possible to book online with some caveats, specifically that at this time (August 2022) it's not possible to retrieve the AS PNR via ba.com - the chat function on alaskaair.com is staffed by helpful and responsive agents though who can get your AS PNR issued quickly. You can book flights up to 330 days in advance.

It has been reported that flights operated by Skywest "Skywest operating as Alaska Airlines" for flights like SEA-SLO are not possible to book with Avios. The system may initially allow agents to grab inventory but then will send back an error message when going further even with the telephone booking.

Avios Cost
The cost should be in line with the normal BA reward price banding. To get an idea of what your flight may cost check the distance with the BAEC flight calculator or using gcmap, and then have a look at the avios banding here.

Note that all AS flights (just like any other non-BA flights) are priced at the peak avios rates. Also note that from 2 February 2016, redemption rates for travel on American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, and TAM will start at 7,500 Avios rather than 4,500 Avios, effectively pricing Distance Band 1 flights as Band 2.

If the flight includes a number of stops under the same flight number then the avios charge is for a non-stop flight from the departure point to the destination. For example, for Seattle to Juneau AS65 the service makes three stops enroute. However, the avios rate charged is as if it were non-stop Seattle to Juneau flight (7,500 avios) and not the avios total for four segments.

Taxes, Fees, and Charges
As with other non-BA reward bookings you need to pay the taxes, fees, and charges. You should be able to predict what this will be by having a look at the taxes, fees, and charges on the AS website or on itamatrix.

BA policy is to charge Ł15/US$25 for offline award tickets but there has been consistent and sustained reports for years of agents waiving fees. As recently as 1/2017, there have been confirmatory reports that the telephone fee has been consistently waived. When initially calling the call center let your first sentence be, "Can you help me with an Alaska booking that I cannot complete online." The agents have all proactively waived fees in every circumstance. If they do not, HUCA (hang up and call again - or ask supervisor to waive)

Can I Check Reward Availability Online?
You can attempt to make a booking on ba.com and this should at least show Alaska mainline routes. You can also check AA website and the AS website. If AS reward flights show as available on aa.com, then they should be bookable with BA using avios. Check MileSAAver availability not AAnytime availability. AA may be better to check as this should show partner reward availability.

Checked Bags?
AS charges for checked bags on all economy fares, however oneworld ruby & sapphire members are entitled to 2 free bags and emerald members to 3 free bags. Note that oneworld elite baggage allowance is only applied to the passenger with the elite status: 1 GCH and 3 blue members on the same booking only provides 3 bags free, not 12. See the baggage information here. Note that you can only add bags at OLCI, at the airport, or on the phone no earlier than 24 hrs before the flight. Baggage fees are also waived for Alaska Credit Card holders and up to 6 companions on the same booking.

Redemptions in First include 2 checked bags per passenger as the base entitlement.

oneworld Benefits?
AS joined oneworld on 31st March 2021: priority check-in, priority boarding, baggage allowance* and lounge access for passengers with status all apply per the normal oneworld/AS policies. Alaska's table is here.
(* see the Checked Bags question above for an important detail)

Does the 24 hour Cooling Off Period Apply?
Yes it does. However, you must cancel by phone - it is not possible to do it online. Miles are refunded immediately into your Avios account, taxes (if returned) just take a few days to be credited.

Can I Amend the Booking?
Yes, subject to fees and reward availability on the flight you want to move to. You need to do it on the phone. Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here.
Because of the fee structure of BA Avios - it is often beneficial to book two one ways instead of one roundtrip if you are unsure about either your departure or return dates.

Can I Cancel the Booking?
Yes you may subject to the usual fees here Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here. If the taxes, fees, and charges you paid were less than the cancellation fee due then you simply forfeit the taxes and fees paid and that serves as your effective cancellation fee. If taxes, fees, and charges you paid were more than the cancellation fee then you would pay the cancellation fee USD55 but get back your taxes in full as well as your miles. (Rather they debit USD55 from your taxes and fees and return to you the balance remaining to your form of payment.)

Can I SDC Same Day Confirm on an AS Avios Ticket?
Yes, AS Avios tickets are eligible for AS same day confirmed change benefits as detailed on the AS website. If AS agent tells you differently HUCA. But AS website should allow you to do this regardless.

Are AS Avios tickets upgradeable with cash?
Yes, AS Avios tickets can be upgraded by paying a fee at 24hr check in, "U" inventory allowance, space available. Please note upgraded U fare class tickets are not eligible for lounge access.

Do AS Elite Benefits apply to AS Avios tickets?
Yes, if you are AS MVP Gold for instance your AS Avios ticket is eligible for Complimentary Upgrades and as long as your AS FFN is in the reservation, you will be automatically added to the AS complimentary upgrade list (AS in 12/05/16 changed policy to allow complimentary upgrades to apply to award tickets - including Avios awards) Gold Guest Upgrades, however, have never been allowed to be applied to AS Avios tickets.

Can I book Virgin America flights now using avios?
As of 25 April 2018, Virgin America no longer exists as far as reservations systems are concerned. Former VX flights are now AS flights and can be booked with Avios.



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Old Sep 13, 2022, 3:16 am
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Is there a time lag between award seats being made available from AS before they are available through AA or BA?
I’ve been watching for availability for next August and this morning seats were made available at the “saver” rate on AS, but I’m not seeing those on BA or AA.
I’m considering making a cash purchase as the price as also gone down today, but would rather use Avios for the extra flexibility that brings.
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Old Sep 13, 2022, 1:18 pm
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I have been watching for flights from SEA to YYC in July next year. To appear as Avios bookable they have to be available for the lowest AS mileage rate (5K for that route). I can see flights in May and June on AS,AA and the BA website, but in weeks of watching I have not seen a single day in July with availability. I am now starting to think they won't release any Avios bookable flight in the peak months of summer. I wonder if anyone has experienced this before?
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Old Sep 22, 2022, 5:59 pm
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Are Alaska Skywest flights bookable through Avios? BA.com is not showing me a Skywest flight even though both AA and AS show it as an award (AS at saver level and AA, as a partner, only shows saver awards which are available to all partners).
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Old Sep 22, 2022, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by abcx
Are Alaska Skywest flights bookable through Avios? BA.com is not showing me a Skywest flight even though both AA and AS show it as an award (AS at saver level and AA, as a partner, only shows saver awards which are available to all partners).
OO operated flights should show. I've booked half a dozen myself. I would give BA a call and see if they see availability on their end and have them book it for you.
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Old Sep 23, 2022, 1:31 am
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I have managed to book a Seattle to Bozeman in July. Over the weekend, the return Bozeman to Seattle came available in economy, but when BA priced it, it was 11,000 + Ł150 in taxes per person when I can buy the flight for $209! On the Seattle to Bozeman the taxes were only Ł4.50 per person. I queried it and it went downstairs to the fares department and they confirmed it!
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Old Sep 23, 2022, 11:24 am
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Originally Posted by LHRagain
I have managed to book a Seattle to Bozeman in July. Over the weekend, the return Bozeman to Seattle came available in economy, but when BA priced it, it was 11,000 + Ł150 in taxes per person when I can buy the flight for $209! On the Seattle to Bozeman the taxes were only Ł4.50 per person. I queried it and it went downstairs to the fares department and they confirmed it!
I would push back on this. There are no carrier surcharges on AS' fares on this route; the only proper tax is the $5.60 USD September 11 Security Fee -- the same as what BA is collecting on the SEA-BZN leg.

Sounds like a software glitch.

Edited to add: It would be very interesting to learn how BA itemizes the Ł150 in taxes and fees it claims to apply to the BZN-SEA segment.

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Old Sep 23, 2022, 3:05 pm
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The BA app shows the correct pricing for a BZN-SEA Economy Class redemption on AS in July, 2023:


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Old Oct 26, 2022, 3:16 pm
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First time booking AS flights with BA. I saw in the wiki that its possible to upgrade using cash. Can someone explain how this is accomplished?
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Old Nov 6, 2022, 4:04 pm
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I booked an Alaska airlines flight using British Airways Avios. I see a couple of issues:
1. Although I have a BA e-ticket number, when I look up the e-ticket number on Alaska airlines, it says "Not available". Will this cause any problems?
2. Alaska airlines is showing up my name as "FirstName Mr LastName" and my wife's name as "FirstName Mrs LastName". Because of this, when I try to add my Alaska airlines FFN to my reservation, it says it cannot be added because the names don't match. Any idea how to resolve this issue?

P.S.: I saw a few people wondering how to obtain the Alaska Airlines confirmation number. I just called British Airways and they provided it to me.
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Old Nov 6, 2022, 5:00 pm
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Welcome to Flyertalk and welcome to the BA board, I hope you will continue to participate here.

The number issue is normal, AS is on Sabre, and BA is on Amadeus GDS systems, so Amadeus uses an interface to create a booking entry on Sabre, but it doesn't create a ticket over there, that stays in Amadeus. The naming issue is also find, the same interface is notorious for mangling names in every conceivable way and a few other ways as well. So long as it essentially identifies you then that's fine.
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Old Nov 20, 2022, 11:06 am
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I have an AS redemption in E fare bucket, booked with Avios though BA as part of a multi city itinerary. The flight has been cancelled, and I have been moved to a later, unsuitable flight. Calling BA to rebook, they have told me that I cannot move to any other flight that day as there is no E bucket availability. Is this correct? My experience in the past with AA and BA is that a cancelled flight will allow you to book onto any flight with availability, regardless of the bucket availability. I haven't had this situation with a partner redemption before, so am not sure this is correct.
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Old Nov 20, 2022, 11:54 am
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I am afraid that is the nature of partner redemptions, there is an element of "take it or leave it" with changes, some airlines won't even provide any replacement. This is an industry wide picture, not unique to BA. The slight middle ground is that you may be able to persuade BAEC to talk to their oneworld liaison team to see if AS will agree to an alternative, but this isn't always successful either.
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Old Nov 20, 2022, 11:59 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
I am afraid that is the nature of partner redemptions, there is an element of "take it or leave it" with changes, some airlines won't even provide any replacement. This is an industry wide picture, not unique to BA. The slight middle ground is that you may be able to persuade BAEC to talk to their oneworld liaison team to see if AS will agree to an alternative, but this isn't always successful either.
Thank you. There is plenty of T availability, which is economy redemptions, so I can at least get on the more convenient flight.
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 12:20 am
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Is the wiki info about SDC still correct? Over in the AS forum, it's mentioned that BA-issued awards can't be SDC'ed. Has anyone tried this recently?

Same Day Confirmed Change (SDC) (posts 518-520)
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 5:56 am
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Originally Posted by SilverChris
Is the wiki info about SDC still correct? Over in the AS forum, it's mentioned that BA-issued awards can't be SDC'ed. Has anyone tried this recently?

Same Day Confirmed Change (SDC) (posts 518-520)
I haven't tried it, but from a BA ticketing perspective - since these tickets are all 125 plated - then this is out of scope for FCOD / SDC. FCOD is BA's version of SDC and does not apply to BA operated services booked with Avios, so it would be inconsistent if AS / AA etc did allow SDC. That's not to say that an individual agent cannot touch the ticket, so for example if there were irrops on the airline side then the ticket can be changed at the gate.
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