Booking Alaska Airlines with Avios

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AS is a BA partner. As a BA partner you can book AS flights using your avios through BA. You need to book on the phone through your local service centre - you cannot currently book online. Also you can book flights up to 330 days in advance is when the flight calendar opens up.

It has been reported that flights operated by Skywest "Skywest operating as Alaska Airlines" for flights like SEA-SLO(starting mid 2017) are not possible to book with Avios. The system may initially allow agents to grab inventory but then will send back an error message when going further with the telephone booking.

Avios Cost
The cost should be in line with the normal BA reward price banding. To get an idea of what your flight may cost check the distance with the BAEC flight calculator or using gcmap, and then have a look at the avios banding here.

Note that all AS flights (just like any other non-BA flights) are priced at the peak avios rates. Also note that from 2 February 2016, redemption rates for travel on American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, and TAM will start at 7,500 Avios rather than 4,500 Avios, effectively pricing Distance Band 1 flights as Band 2.

If the flight includes a number of stops under the same flight number then the avios charge is for a non-stop flight from the departure point to the destination. For example, for Seattle to Juneau AS65 the service makes three stops enroute. However, the avios rate charged is as if it were non-stop Seattle to Juneau flight (7,500 avios) and not the avios total for four segments.

Taxes, Fees, and Charges
As with other non-BA reward bookings you need to pay the taxes, fees, and charges. You should be able to predict what this will be by having a look at the taxes, fees, and charges on the AS website or on itamatrix.

BA policy is to charge 15/US$25 for offline award tickets but there has been consistent and sustained reports for years of agents waiving fees. As recently as 1/2017, there have been confirmatory reports that the telephone fee has been consistently waived. When initially calling the call center let your first sentence be, "Can you help me with an Alaska booking that I cannot complete online." The agents have all proactively waived fees in every circumstance. If they do not, HUCA (hang up and call again - or ask supervisor to waive)

Can I Check Reward Availability Online?
Not on BA.com. You can check AA website and the AS website. If AS reward flights show as available on aa.com, then they should be bookable with BA using avios. Check mileSSaver availability not AAnytime availability. AA may be better to check as this should show partner reward availability.

Checked Bags?
AS charges for checked bags. They do not waive fees for BA elites. (They waived fees for AA elites prior to January 1, 2018, but no longer do.) See the baggage information here. Note that you can only add bags at OLCI, at the airport, or on the phone no earlier than 24 hrs before the flight. Bags are also waived for Alaska Credit Card holders.

oneworld Benefits?
AS is not a oneworld member so none of your oneworld benefits apply. AS and AA used to have a relationship outside oneworld for many reciprocal status benefits but no longer do.

Does the 24 hour Cooling Off Period Apply?
Yes it does. However, you must cancel by phone - it is not possible to do it online. Miles are refunded immediately into your Avios account, taxes (if returned) just take a few days to be credited.

Can I Amend the Booking?
Yes, subject to fees and reward availability on the flight you want to move to. You need to do it on the phone. Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here.
Because of the fee structure of BA Avios - it is often beneficial to book two one ways instead of one roundtrip if you are unsure about either your departure or return dates.

Can I Cancel the Booking?
Yes you may subject to the usual fees here Fees (both the offline fee and change fee) are shown here. If the taxes, fees, and charges you paid were less than the cancellation fee due then you simply forfeit the taxes and fees paid and that serves as your effective cancellation fee. If taxes, fees, and charges you paid were more than the cancellation fee then you would pay the cancellation fee USD55 but get back your taxes in full as well as your miles. (Rather they debit USD55 from your taxes and fees and return to you the balance remaining to your form of payment.)

Can I SDC Same Day Confirm on an AS Avios Ticket?
Yes, AS Avios tickets are eligible for AS same day confirmed change benefits as detailed on the AS website. If AS agent tells you differently HUCA. But AS website should allow you to do this regardless.

Are AS Avios tickets upgradeable with cash?
Yes, AS Avios tickets can be upgraded by paying a fee at 24hr check in, "U" inventory allowance, space available. Please note upgraded U fare class tickets are not eligible for lounge access.

Do AS Elite Benefits apply to AS Avios tickets?
Yes, if you are AS MVP Gold for instance your AS Avios ticket is eligible for Complimentary Upgrades and as long as your AS FFN is in the reservation, you will be automatically added to the AS complimentary upgrade list (AS in 12/05/16 changed policy to allow complimentary upgrades to apply to award tickets - including Avios awards) Gold Guest Upgrades, however, have never been allowed to be applied to AS Avios tickets.

Can I book Virgin America flights now using avios?
As of 25 April 2018, Virgin America no longer exists as far as reservations systems are concerned. Former VX flights are now AS flights and can be booked with Avios.
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Old Feb 3, 20, 2:33 pm
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Spending Avios With Alaskan

Actually, there are two questions. Trying to find out how I can book a reward flight with my Avios with Alaskan. I think I have to ring BA but would like to know what I should expect to spend first. The relevant page on BA does not seem to be working.

I need to fly from SAN to PDX in October. I actually jumped on the great PDX fares from UK and am planning a Pacific Coast Highway road trip finishing in San Diego, so I need to flight back to Portland.

Cash fares seem pricey at around 90 plus Id need extra for bags, which I assume would be included on a reward ticket?

Also, will Alaskan check my bags through? As it happens my flights home are a hop from PDX to SEA on Alaskan. Finally, would a 1520 arrival be pushing it for a 1715 departure? I ask as the earlier flight is 5 hours earlier.

Should I have asked this on the Alaskan Forum?
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Old Feb 3, 20, 2:40 pm
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I have rung to book with Avios several times but there has never been availability even 9 months out, it might be different for the lower 48 I was trying to book SEA-FAI or SEA-ANC
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Old Feb 3, 20, 2:40 pm
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Expect to pay 9,000 Avios for an Economy Class one-way for SAN-PDX. I would not assume that a free checked bag is included on such a redemption.

Note that WN (Southwest Airlines) also flies SAN-PDX nonstop, and Southwest's fares include two free checked bags.

Whether AS will through-check bags to BA on separate tickets is a question to ask AS, or to post in the FT AS forum.

And by the way, it's "Alaska Airlines," not "Alaskan."
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Old Feb 3, 20, 2:47 pm
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There is a guide thread which should help you with your query Booking Alaska Airlines with Avios
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Old Feb 3, 20, 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by guv1976 View Post
Expect to pay 9,000 Avios for an Economy Class one-way for SAN-PDX. I would not assume that a free checked bag is included on such a redemption.

Note that WN (Southwest Airlines) also flies SAN-PDX nonstop, and Southwest's fares include two free checked bags.
Free bag definitely not included. But the taxes, fees and charges on the ticket itself are generally very low (under 10).
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Old Feb 4, 20, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by lcylocal View Post
Free bag definitely not included. But the taxes, fees and charges on the ticket itself are generally very low (under 10).
The cash component on such a one-way redemption should be limited to the U.S. September 11 Security Fee, currently $5.60 USD.
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Old Feb 19, 20, 8:55 am
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Is it possible to cancel an BA award booking on AS metal online? I can't seem to find the option ever since they refreshed the website. When calling in - they're trying to get me to pay a $35 service charge.
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Old Feb 19, 20, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by OutofToiletPaper View Post
Is it possible to cancel an BA award booking on AS metal online? I can't seem to find the option ever since they refreshed the website. When calling in - they're trying to get me to pay a $35 service charge.
Like other BA award bookings, does one on AS appear in your future bookings list? If it does you should be able to cancel by using the link in the bottom right column on MMB.
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Old Feb 19, 20, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by OutofToiletPaper View Post
Is it possible to cancel an BA award booking on AS metal online? I can't seem to find the option ever since they refreshed the website. When calling in - they're trying to get me to pay a $35 service charge.
It is. You lose the minimal taxes and fees but get the Avios back.

But this is also the stated policy of the call centre so if you need to do it on the phone for some reason I think this is HUCA territory.
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Old Feb 19, 20, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
Like other BA award bookings, does one on AS appear in your future bookings list? If it does you should be able to cancel by using the link in the bottom right column on MMB.
Found it - I had to switch back to the legacy website (on the top of the website "Go back to current design >") to see the cancellation options.
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Old Aug 28, 20, 1:20 pm
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US first-class domestic pricing

Did the price of US domestic Avios award tickets go up? I called BA this past weekend and was looking to buy a nonstop one-way ticket on AS and the agent quoted me 11K in economy and 44K in first. Isn't US domestic first supposed to be treated as business class and priced at 22K? The flight is around 1900 miles.

(Originally posted in the Avios thread more than a week ago but never got a reply)
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Old Aug 28, 20, 2:06 pm
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The reason US domestic First is 4 x of economy is that it follows how BA charge Avios on their flights. Economy x 1, PE x 2, business x 3 and first x 4. It doesnt matter if that flight hasnt got PE/business or not.

However, when I looked at some domestic first on AA, BA.com is quoting 3 x of economy and called it business, but I know there isnt business on that flight, only economy and first. Ive been told they are first class seats.
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Old Aug 28, 20, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013;32636428[color=#000000
Isn't US domestic first supposed to be treated as business class and priced at 22K?
On AA yes, but not on AS where it is still coded as First and charged as such as you have seen,
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Old Sep 7, 20, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Airprox View Post
On AA yes, but not on AS where it is still coded as First and charged as such as you have seen,
That's ridiculous. Hopefully it gets recoded/aligned when AS formally joins OneWorld. Thought it was a mistake on the agent's part. 4x is not worth it.

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Old Sep 7, 20, 4:43 pm
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Its important to remember that it wasn't that long ago AA were coded as F for domestic First and until that changed we were paying more avios for premium redemptions. The sweet spot in the cabin alignment then became cheaper redemptions in terms of Avios outlay. I think this just goes to show until a time AS recode their premium cabin from F to J in line with AA redemptions will always be high in comparison.

On the flip side, cash fares will be a sweet spot on the AS network where F tier points will be awarded to BAEC. A transcon/Hawaii flight offering 180 tier points compared to 140 on AA (3 class AA services excluded... which would typically involve a larger cost outlay anyway).
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