Membership changes - Your feedback and questions
#76
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 15 minutes west of LHR, Stockholm, or somewhere inbetween.
Programs: BAEC Gold GGL, CCR, GfL, Mucci des Recherches des Consommations Exotiques.
Posts: 2,463
Hi Nicci,
Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions and posting here on FT, it is much appreciated.
On the whole, the changes you're making are either positive or have no impact on me, as a high TP earning Gold who tends to fly in the highest available class.
The one thing that does concern me, is that with the introduction of the Bronze tier, the amount of people that will now be allowed to use the Club check in.
An example of how it effects me and how it will become even more of a problem in the future.
I fly back home to LHR from ARN every Friday in CE and sometimes I'll have checked in luggage.
There is a Club check in at ARN where already today the queues on a Friday are not much shorter than for Y check in.
With the introduction of the Bronze tier, I think that the queues for Club check in on a Friday will increase to the point where they're as long or longer than for Y check in.
It seems to me that some of the changes you've made of late inpact your very best customers in a negative way, while giving extra perks to your not so good customers.
A previous example of this was when you started to sell advance seat bookings to your non status customers, meaning that your best customers where less likely to be able to get their favourite seats.
Please do not take this as me being negative about all the changes, as most of them are either good or neutral for me, but I do feel that I should mention my concerns.
bjorns
Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions and posting here on FT, it is much appreciated.
On the whole, the changes you're making are either positive or have no impact on me, as a high TP earning Gold who tends to fly in the highest available class.
The one thing that does concern me, is that with the introduction of the Bronze tier, the amount of people that will now be allowed to use the Club check in.
An example of how it effects me and how it will become even more of a problem in the future.
I fly back home to LHR from ARN every Friday in CE and sometimes I'll have checked in luggage.
There is a Club check in at ARN where already today the queues on a Friday are not much shorter than for Y check in.
With the introduction of the Bronze tier, I think that the queues for Club check in on a Friday will increase to the point where they're as long or longer than for Y check in.
It seems to me that some of the changes you've made of late inpact your very best customers in a negative way, while giving extra perks to your not so good customers.
A previous example of this was when you started to sell advance seat bookings to your non status customers, meaning that your best customers where less likely to be able to get their favourite seats.
Please do not take this as me being negative about all the changes, as most of them are either good or neutral for me, but I do feel that I should mention my concerns.
bjorns
#77
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: in a cabin
Posts: 6,521
Nicci,
Has the BA team considered what will happen at the JFK outstation when Ruby's/Bronze will be allowed to use the Premium Check-in Area? Bronze benefits does not include Fast Track security, however at JFK T7 the Club check-in desks are in a dedicated premium area with it's own security channel that Silvers/Golds and CW/F passengers may use.
This is a logistical problem BA need to look at, or there will be bad blood among Bronzies because they get rejected and have to walk back to the main departure area, or, Elite members and Premium Pax will be upset because the Premium security becomes not so premium.
Cheers,
Petrus
Has the BA team considered what will happen at the JFK outstation when Ruby's/Bronze will be allowed to use the Premium Check-in Area? Bronze benefits does not include Fast Track security, however at JFK T7 the Club check-in desks are in a dedicated premium area with it's own security channel that Silvers/Golds and CW/F passengers may use.
This is a logistical problem BA need to look at, or there will be bad blood among Bronzies because they get rejected and have to walk back to the main departure area, or, Elite members and Premium Pax will be upset because the Premium security becomes not so premium.
Cheers,
Petrus
#78
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere between 0 and 13,000 metres high
Programs: AF/KL Life Plat, BA GGL+GfL, ALL Plat, Hilton Diam, Marriott Gold, blablablah, etc
Posts: 30,520
Hi,
Swanhunter has previously asked to not use this thread for whinging and opinionating. Still, some posters do this and posts have to be deleted. We will not tolerate it in this thread. Nicci is here for your benefit. Respect that.
Use the other threads for bad will if you have to.
Thanks for understanding.
Petrus.
Swanhunter has previously asked to not use this thread for whinging and opinionating. Still, some posters do this and posts have to be deleted. We will not tolerate it in this thread. Nicci is here for your benefit. Respect that.
Use the other threads for bad will if you have to.
Thanks for understanding.
Petrus.
Question: will the new bunches of bronze people get access to all seats at d -7 or will some sections be reserved to gold and/or silver? When flying economy short haul, not the whole cabin is available at reservation and many seats only open up at d - 3 so many of us change our assignments at that time. Are we now in competition with bronze then?
#79
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,722
Bronze never existed under the old rules - so it's sort of incorrect to say that. There never was an equivalent intermediate semi-status level to begin with!!!
#80
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,722
I think you mean "cheers for the intermediate period between changing the rules, with all its apparently unintended opportunities to gain even easier status" than cheers for the new system - which ultimately leads EU members to a far less attractive scheme.
#83
Company Representative - British Airways
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 834
Dear all
I have updated a few questions in the main Q&A post.
A small plea from me, I really cannot answer one to one questions on all of the scenarios I am presented with via private mail. Many of the answers are in the main Q&A and other customers really will benefit from the answers so if possible it would be great if we can stick to the thread.
Thanks for your support on this
Best regards
Nicci
I have updated a few questions in the main Q&A post.
A small plea from me, I really cannot answer one to one questions on all of the scenarios I am presented with via private mail. Many of the answers are in the main Q&A and other customers really will benefit from the answers so if possible it would be great if we can stick to the thread.
Thanks for your support on this
Best regards
Nicci
#84
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Isle of Skye, Scotland
Programs: BA gold
Posts: 3,902
Granted, it's not silver, but better than a kick in the teeth.
#85
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,641
#87
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,041
Dear all
I have updated a few questions in the main Q&A post.
A small plea from me, I really cannot answer one to one questions on all of the scenarios I am presented with via private mail. Many of the answers are in the main Q&A and other customers really will benefit from the answers so if possible it would be great if we can stick to the thread.
Thanks for your support on this
Best regards
Nicci
I have updated a few questions in the main Q&A post.
A small plea from me, I really cannot answer one to one questions on all of the scenarios I am presented with via private mail. Many of the answers are in the main Q&A and other customers really will benefit from the answers so if possible it would be great if we can stick to the thread.
Thanks for your support on this
Best regards
Nicci
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I will respond to this tomorrow
#88
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: 15 minutes west of LHR, Stockholm, or somewhere inbetween.
Programs: BAEC Gold GGL, CCR, GfL, Mucci des Recherches des Consommations Exotiques.
Posts: 2,463
bjorns
#89
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,641
Aha!
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17299223-post13.html
So there are two Q&A posts.
It would be smashing if they could be made easier to see at the top of the Board, perhaps in a locked sticky only BA Executive Club could update, to avoid opening up commentary on too many fronts.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17299223-post13.html
So there are two Q&A posts.
It would be smashing if they could be made easier to see at the top of the Board, perhaps in a locked sticky only BA Executive Club could update, to avoid opening up commentary on too many fronts.
#90
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,041
I would like to echo this again Nicci as I think we are talking about the same thing but still not understanding what the answer is:
Spanish Tierpoints currently issued (each way):
Business: 40TP
Flex Y: 20TP
Economy: 10TP
What will be the new tier points earned and will it effect flights already booked?
As mentioned by Hannibal, we and many others book these flights quite far in advance and will be pretty p'ed if we forked out for a ticket but the tier points don't allow us to renew.
Spanish Tierpoints currently issued (each way):
Business: 40TP
Flex Y: 20TP
Economy: 10TP
What will be the new tier points earned and will it effect flights already booked?
As mentioned by Hannibal, we and many others book these flights quite far in advance and will be pretty p'ed if we forked out for a ticket but the tier points don't allow us to renew.
Compare: Mainland Spain-Canary islands is nearly 1200 miles
MAD-LHR is 785...so won't we even get 10pts for the former?
Here's from Iberia's new site, certainly doesn't make things clearer