OT: Should I use Avis for US car hire?
#31
Join Date: Nov 2009
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I rent in the US quite a lot. If you're UK based then I highly recommend buying 'car hire insurance' if you rent cars for more than a few weeks a year.
I pay £129 a year, although that seems to have gone up to £139 now , minus £26 via quidco cashback.
Sounds a lot, but it means that I can decline all the insurance the rental company tries to package with the car. In Europe car rental has to be sold with a minimum level of cover included, but in the US and some other parts of the world, you pay extra for everything. So most of the time (unless there's an amazing offer), I'll book my US car hire on Avis.com in dollars, decline all the insurance and save quite a lot.
It's well worth it. You get a very high level of cover compared to what's normally offered, plus save money in the long run.
I pay £129 a year, although that seems to have gone up to £139 now , minus £26 via quidco cashback.
Sounds a lot, but it means that I can decline all the insurance the rental company tries to package with the car. In Europe car rental has to be sold with a minimum level of cover included, but in the US and some other parts of the world, you pay extra for everything. So most of the time (unless there's an amazing offer), I'll book my US car hire on Avis.com in dollars, decline all the insurance and save quite a lot.
It's well worth it. You get a very high level of cover compared to what's normally offered, plus save money in the long run.
#32
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I rent in the US quite a lot. If you're UK based then I highly recommend buying 'car hire insurance' if you rent cars for more than a few weeks a year.
I pay £129 a year, although that seems to have gone up to £139 now , minus £26 via quidco cashback.
Sounds a lot, but it means that I can decline all the insurance the rental company tries to package with the car. In Europe car rental has to be sold with a minimum level of cover included, but in the US and some other parts of the world, you pay extra for everything. So most of the time (unless there's an amazing offer), I'll book my US car hire on Avis.com in dollars, decline all the insurance and save quite a lot.
It's well worth it. You get a very high level of cover compared to what's normally offered, plus save money in the long run.
I pay £129 a year, although that seems to have gone up to £139 now , minus £26 via quidco cashback.
Sounds a lot, but it means that I can decline all the insurance the rental company tries to package with the car. In Europe car rental has to be sold with a minimum level of cover included, but in the US and some other parts of the world, you pay extra for everything. So most of the time (unless there's an amazing offer), I'll book my US car hire on Avis.com in dollars, decline all the insurance and save quite a lot.
It's well worth it. You get a very high level of cover compared to what's normally offered, plus save money in the long run.
They charge something like $129 for a 2 day rental and then you have to pay another $55 for LDW so in the end it more than doubles the all inclusive cost from a UK site.
#33
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I rent in the US quite a lot. If you're UK based then I highly recommend buying 'car hire insurance' if you rent cars for more than a few weeks a year.
I pay £129 a year, although that seems to have gone up to £139 now , minus £26 via quidco cashback.
Sounds a lot, but it means that I can decline all the insurance the rental company tries to package with the car. In Europe car rental has to be sold with a minimum level of cover included, but in the US and some other parts of the world, you pay extra for everything. So most of the time (unless there's an amazing offer), I'll book my US car hire on Avis.com in dollars, decline all the insurance and save quite a lot.
It's well worth it. You get a very high level of cover compared to what's normally offered, plus save money in the long run.
I pay £129 a year, although that seems to have gone up to £139 now , minus £26 via quidco cashback.
Sounds a lot, but it means that I can decline all the insurance the rental company tries to package with the car. In Europe car rental has to be sold with a minimum level of cover included, but in the US and some other parts of the world, you pay extra for everything. So most of the time (unless there's an amazing offer), I'll book my US car hire on Avis.com in dollars, decline all the insurance and save quite a lot.
It's well worth it. You get a very high level of cover compared to what's normally offered, plus save money in the long run.
On the other hand, I often find US bookings from the UK including insurance are barely more, or occasionally cheaper, than ex-insurance bookings on the US sites. I don't know why that is, but it often happens, especially if you search the consolidators.
#35
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I rent in the US quite a lot. If you're UK based then I highly recommend buying 'car hire insurance' if you rent cars for more than a few weeks a year.
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Sounds a lot, but it means that I can decline all the insurance the rental company tries to package with the car. In Europe car rental has to be sold with a minimum level of cover included, but in the US and some other parts of the world, you pay extra for everything. So most of the time (unless there's an amazing offer), I'll book my US car hire on Avis.com in dollars, decline all the insurance and save quite a lot.
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Sounds a lot, but it means that I can decline all the insurance the rental company tries to package with the car. In Europe car rental has to be sold with a minimum level of cover included, but in the US and some other parts of the world, you pay extra for everything. So most of the time (unless there's an amazing offer), I'll book my US car hire on Avis.com in dollars, decline all the insurance and save quite a lot.
I have car rental insurances included as a benefit on my Platinum AMEX, so interested in any tips on how to 'decline' these insurances when renting a car in the U.S. as a UK resident, please!
#36
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US Insurances for UK travellers are a minefield. That's why I like using some of those consolidator who bundle everything into the rental. Then the 'guy at the desk' has noting to sell [on which he earns commission, which is why they push it].
@ redsox ... point taken, although you can end up web-searching other consolidators through them. I've never used them, I just find them a bit too "multi-link"
@ larryflyer ... bin the Amex Plat? Some aspects you win, and some you lose. My Amex Blue free card doesn't create that problem, and gives me the option to have all those insurances rolled up in a rental ... and I don't have to pay an annual Amex fee. It may work for you, but it doesn't for me
@ redsox ... point taken, although you can end up web-searching other consolidators through them. I've never used them, I just find them a bit too "multi-link"
@ larryflyer ... bin the Amex Plat? Some aspects you win, and some you lose. My Amex Blue free card doesn't create that problem, and gives me the option to have all those insurances rolled up in a rental ... and I don't have to pay an annual Amex fee. It may work for you, but it doesn't for me
#37
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I use expedia because they include everything I need like insurance as a UK driver in the US, Price listed in £. I get a variety of companies, Alamo, Hertz crop up more than others, never had a problem since I started using Expedia, unlike BA stranded at midnight at JFK because of some mix up with the voucher, never got miles to credit, for any rental.
Conversely I have no idea if a hotel price is good or bad in £ have to do it in $
Conversely I have no idea if a hotel price is good or bad in £ have to do it in $
#38
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What annoys me is that the U.S. sites, as soon as you say you are a non-U.S. resident, the rates quoted include manadatory LDW and ALI with no option to decline.
I have car rental insurances included as a benefit on my Platinum AMEX, so interested in any tips on how to 'decline' these insurances when renting a car in the U.S. as a UK resident, please!
I have car rental insurances included as a benefit on my Platinum AMEX, so interested in any tips on how to 'decline' these insurances when renting a car in the U.S. as a UK resident, please!
#39
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Otherwise, use an agency which doesn't bundle in those unwanted extras. In the past, National have done this for me.
@ larryflyer ... bin the Amex Plat? Some aspects you win, and some you lose. My Amex Blue free card doesn't create that problem, and gives me the option to have all those insurances rolled up in a rental ... and I don't have to pay an annual Amex fee. It may work for you, but it doesn't for me
#40
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I just wish there was a rental car company in the US that would offer a decent car with a manual gearbox. A nice 3 series BMW for example, available from most rental companies in Europe, and certainly sold retail in the US, would do.
James
James
#41
Join Date: Sep 2011
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I'm doing my first Avis/BA rental in a few weeks, but it's only EDI.
Interestingly, the common theme above is car rental in the US, rather than Avis specifically - so maybe that is the real minefield?
500 miles isn't much but I like the idea of skipping the queue and there are some bonus miles with Avis Preferred - not many though I don't think.
Interestingly, the common theme above is car rental in the US, rather than Avis specifically - so maybe that is the real minefield?
500 miles isn't much but I like the idea of skipping the queue and there are some bonus miles with Avis Preferred - not many though I don't think.
#42
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Supposed to be double miles with Avis at present so 1000 instead of 500 (US only or all hiring?)
San Juan seems more difficult than Las Vegas to hire from.
Some of the comparison sites and suchlike don't deal with anything there, and places like Hertz only give the price in US$ with the option to pay locally only which means double the price with insurances that you have to add on.
Alamo seem to give inclusive prices in £ though. Not sure why you can hire a mid-sized car such as a Toyota Corrola for around £69 but if you upgrade to the gold package, the price drops by £20.
San Juan seems more difficult than Las Vegas to hire from.
Some of the comparison sites and suchlike don't deal with anything there, and places like Hertz only give the price in US$ with the option to pay locally only which means double the price with insurances that you have to add on.
Alamo seem to give inclusive prices in £ though. Not sure why you can hire a mid-sized car such as a Toyota Corrola for around £69 but if you upgrade to the gold package, the price drops by £20.
#43
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FWIW while I was still a UK resident I had annual travel insurance that included rental car damage and I didn't have any issue with the major rental car companies trying to force extra insurance on me, that can often cost as much as the basic rental.
#44
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There are still plenty of cars with manual, right down to the Honda Civic I believe, however America kids aren't taught to drive them, and frankly they have no value given the style of roads, the efficiency of the modern boxes and the general competence of the drivers - how can you text / do your makeup / eat lunch while driving a stick anyway? For all those reasons I doubt rental car companies want them except in sports cars in their prestige / exotic fleets because they'd get back a handful of spare teeth in the bottom of the box from most US drivers.
#45
Join Date: Oct 2009
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I'm doing my first Avis/BA rental in a few weeks, but it's only EDI.
Interestingly, the common theme above is car rental in the US, rather than Avis specifically - so maybe that is the real minefield?
500 miles isn't much but I like the idea of skipping the queue and there are some bonus miles with Avis Preferred - not many though I don't think.
Interestingly, the common theme above is car rental in the US, rather than Avis specifically - so maybe that is the real minefield?
500 miles isn't much but I like the idea of skipping the queue and there are some bonus miles with Avis Preferred - not many though I don't think.
not sure if I follow you, but you don't have to use the AvisBA site, use any AVIS site and your Wizard Number.
You usually get good prices with BA's AWDs in the UK, (eg N744100) but the price you get from AvisBa.com will almost always be higher than avis.com or avis.co.uk, the only advantage is an extra driver for free.
Might be worth knowing that Avis UK count a weekend as up to 4 days and ending Tuesday at noon, price won't be much lower if you keep it for 2 or 3 days only.