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Avios= BA MILES WORTHLESS for West Coast people

Old Sep 1, 11, 9:25 pm
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Avios= BA MILES WORTHLESS for West Coast people

I have filed a complaint with American Express for this bait and switch. I transferred over 300K of my MR points based on the old charts(Cathay and Partner redemptions) and 2 months later they devalue this for virtually EVERYONE unless you are in Europe. My point is if you want to do that, don't be promoting your stuff with Americans.

Right now, all indications are before it was 50K RT in economy to HKG, now it will take 100k or 120K for the same trip . Absolutely not acceptable.

BA has a right to change their program but offering 50% transfer than 2 months later devalue everything is sinister. I want options to have my MR points back.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by cazic99 View Post
I have filed a complaint with American Express for this bait and switch.
Right...because American Express controls BA's marketing and redemption levels. Bait and switch also assumes that American Express knew of the changes in a non-confidential manner.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by cazic99 View Post
I have filed a complaint with American Express for this bait and switch. I transferred over 300K of my MR points based on the old charts(Cathay and Partner redemptions) and 2 months later they devalue this for virtually EVERYONE unless you are in Europe. My point is if you want to do that, don't be promoting your stuff with Americans.

Right now, all indications are before it was 50K RT in economy to HKG, now it will take 100k or 120K for the same trip . Absolutely not acceptable.

BA has a right to change their program but offering 50% transfer than 2 months later devalue everything is sinister. I want options to have my MR points back.
Too funny.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:32 pm
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Right...because American Express controls BA's marketing and redemption levels. Bait and switch also assumes that American Express knew of the changes in a non-confidential manner.

I don't care, I just want my MR points back.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Paralytic View Post
Too funny.
How is this funny? 300K MR points, how about you put yourself in my shoes?

How about I snap your neck, would that be funny too?
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:33 pm
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by cazic99 View Post
I have filed a complaint with American Express for this bait and switch. I transferred over 300K of my MR points based on the old charts(Cathay and Partner redemptions) and 2 months later they devalue this for virtually EVERYONE unless you are in Europe. My point is if you want to do that, don't be promoting your stuff with Americans.

Right now, all indications are before it was 50K RT in economy to HKG, now it will take 100k or 120K for the same trip . Absolutely not acceptable.

BA has a right to change their program but offering 50% transfer than 2 months later devalue everything is sinister. I want options to have my MR points back.

If you are talking about West Coast - HKG using CX, where did that change?

The examples BA listed I believe were for redemptions from LHR to different destinations. Did amounts for partner awards change?
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by cazic99 View Post
How is this funny? 300K MR points, how about you put yourself in my shoes?

How about I snap your neck, would that be funny too?
Hahahahaha. I can almost imagine your veins bulging as that was hammered out on your keyboard
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by elitetraveler View Post
If you are talking about West Coast - HKG using CX, where did that change?

The examples BA listed I believe were for redemptions from LHR to different destinations. Did amounts for partner awards change?
All indications are calculations will be based on distance from LHR.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:39 pm
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Hahahahaha. I can almost imagine your veins bulging as that was hammered out on your keyboard
Tell me what is funny about a company taking 300K of my hard earned points and make them worthless?

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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by cazic99 View Post
Tell me what is funny about a company taking 300K of my hard earned points and make them worthless? Tell me you *^&%?
They took them off you? Really? Big internet man had his points stolen? Boo hoo. Have you told your mum?

Really, read back what you're writing. Do you not think you're being a bit premature?

Can't see this exchange lasting till the morning.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by cazic99 View Post
All indications are calculations will be based on distance from LHR.
Translation: Someone wrote it on a blog and I believe it.
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:43 pm
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The way I see it, if you want to fly to London (this is British Airways after all), its the same mileage as if we want to fly to the West Coast... If you want to fly to Hong Kong on BA metal then that is effectively two very long flights via London, for which it should cost more points. Or if you want to go direct with Cathay, then perhaps BA Miles / Avios points are not the best for you.

And you've still got 2 months to book up any flights you want to until a year ahead - at the 'old' rate - so a fair amount of notice...
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:44 pm
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You got 50% extra transferring from Amex. You lost about 50% by the new rules. So?
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Old Sep 1, 11, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by cazic99 View Post
All indications are calculations will be based on distance from LHR.
BAEC has a pretty decent size membership in North America and obviously does well with its Chase VISA affinity card so it would surprise me to see something that drastic. Why not email one of the BA lurkers - whenever I have had a questions they got back very promptly with an answer.

My guess is this won't apply to a CX award US - HKG but you are right that there needs clarification on the 1x, 1.5x, 2x, 3x ratio for points on partner awards ex-NA, which I believe is the current ratio.

Again, I recommend you PM a BA lurker for clarification. Interested in the answer.
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