What do you expect from status in a loyalty programme?
#1
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What do you expect from status in a loyalty programme?
Today I was finalizing some last minute things for my upcoming trip to Canada when I realized that the convertible I rented at Budget was a scam. If you take it outside of the state of BC you start paying through the nose. Bummer, convertibles are rare. I logged onto Hertz where I am a President Circle and found a Mustang for E 749 for 20 days. Not bad at all but it included all sorts of insurances I don't need. I called the Hertz Gold line in the US to try to get me a rate without the insurances. A lot went wrong and now all of a sudden all I got was a E 920 rate. I stood my ground and finally got the Hertz Employee discount so I am only paying E 559,- now. Then I noticed I wasn't surprised since I expected them to sort it out because I am 'important' to them.
Thinking back I did the same to CX when the left me stranded in Bali, missing my first flight on a DONE5 (RTW ticket where you can't change the first flight) which was technically a different PNR so not their problem. Still, as a First Class passenger and OW Emerald, I expected them to sort it all out while I was relaxing in my 5 star hotel paid for by CX. And so it happened.
In hotels I expect to be upgraded, get late checkouts, etc and I do all take it for granted. I always expect to be helped by a supervisor at the call centres. Has status turned me into one of those people with a false sense of entitlement? Am I know a spoiled little brat?
What do you expect from having status (BA or otherwise) and do you (ab)use it to get your way? Be honest...
Thinking back I did the same to CX when the left me stranded in Bali, missing my first flight on a DONE5 (RTW ticket where you can't change the first flight) which was technically a different PNR so not their problem. Still, as a First Class passenger and OW Emerald, I expected them to sort it all out while I was relaxing in my 5 star hotel paid for by CX. And so it happened.
In hotels I expect to be upgraded, get late checkouts, etc and I do all take it for granted. I always expect to be helped by a supervisor at the call centres. Has status turned me into one of those people with a false sense of entitlement? Am I know a spoiled little brat?
What do you expect from having status (BA or otherwise) and do you (ab)use it to get your way? Be honest...
Last edited by henkybaby; Jun 5, 2011 at 12:08 pm
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Join Date: Aug 2002
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How do you mean take it out of the province of B.C.? If you are driving it into the U.S. then yes you would have to tell them but if you are dropping it off at the same place as you picked it up why would it cost more to drive it in Alberta or the Yukon for example? I do it every summer driving rental cars from Calgary into the Rockies and B.C. and back and I've never paid extra and that is on Budget rentals as well.
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From the T&C
Apparently the use the GPS on the cars to check and they charge you an arm and a leg upon return. It is typical for the YVR location though*. They got an F from the Better Business Bureau because the scam customers a lot. Also with made up damages.
* It is a franchise. Always be careful with franchises.
• Allowed only with permission from Budget office. Canada: Unlimited kilometers are only available for travel within British Columbia. Travel to, or within any other province is strictly prohibited. Customers driving within other provinces will be charged $0.50 CAD per km, for every km driven, during the entire rental. USA: Only available within the state of Washington. Additional charges up to $10.00 per day will be applied to the rental. Travel to, or within any other state is strictly prohibited. Customers driving within other states will be charged $0.50 CAD per km, for every km driven, during the entire rental.
* It is a franchise. Always be careful with franchises.
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What I expect from such programs, have to admit I only belong to one, BA. Just that if anything goes wrong they can fix it for me. But then I would want them to do it for the rest as well.
As for the hotels, I stay at the same brand and they know what I like and furnish it for me. They do give me late check out when I ask for it, no matter how late without paying half a day. My room has everything that I like in it. Really mainly an Ipod dock, and my pillows. But then they really go over board for me. The once stored 8 suitcases, yes 8 for 2 months.
Planned my daughter's surprise bday for me and took care of everything. No it wasn't at the hotel and no I wasn't staying there at the time. Have helped my kids with reservations or inquiries if they needed them. That is why I stay there.
Besides those 2 am not loyal to anyone or anything.
As for the hotels, I stay at the same brand and they know what I like and furnish it for me. They do give me late check out when I ask for it, no matter how late without paying half a day. My room has everything that I like in it. Really mainly an Ipod dock, and my pillows. But then they really go over board for me. The once stored 8 suitcases, yes 8 for 2 months.
Planned my daughter's surprise bday for me and took care of everything. No it wasn't at the hotel and no I wasn't staying there at the time. Have helped my kids with reservations or inquiries if they needed them. That is why I stay there.
Besides those 2 am not loyal to anyone or anything.
#5
Join Date: Aug 2002
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Apparently the use the GPS on the cars to check and they charge you an arm and a leg upon return. It is typical for the YVR location though*. They got an F from the Better Business Bureau because the scam customers a lot. Also with made up damages.
* It is a franchise. Always be careful with franchises.
* It is a franchise. Always be careful with franchises.
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To be honest, I was rather surprised that this did not come with M&M Senator or FB Plat. It limited my lounge explorations... It did not 'feel' right that other programmes only wanted me when I flew them. At least now we are all the same but it still feels like 'the club' has become a little less special.
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Apart from the obvious stated benefits I would say the main benefit is when something goes wrong.
AF treated us differently when we miss-connected compared to our fellow non status travellers. Better class hotel and overnight amenity kits compared to the Ibis and no amenity kits.
I've found top hotel status rather inconsistent. From fantastic - the Hyatt Chain to ruddy awful...the Accor/Carlson chains.
AF treated us differently when we miss-connected compared to our fellow non status travellers. Better class hotel and overnight amenity kits compared to the Ibis and no amenity kits.
I've found top hotel status rather inconsistent. From fantastic - the Hyatt Chain to ruddy awful...the Accor/Carlson chains.
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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#10
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
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For me, in order of importance:
FOR AIRLINES
1. Place in pecking order when things go wrong.
2. Priority ground services (checking in, boarding).
3. Extra miles or tier points in line with status.
4. Lounge access.
5. Would the occasional upgrade for someone who has "one of those faces that doesn't get upgraded" be too much to ask for?
FOR HOTELS
1. Not to be walked on arrival.
2. To get the accounting right with respect to my credit card.
3. An upgrade in line with my status.
4. How about posting the points for my stay since you must know by now that I'll force them out of you?
(all of the above points with the Hotel Zimbabwe in mind)
FOR AIRLINES
1. Place in pecking order when things go wrong.
2. Priority ground services (checking in, boarding).
3. Extra miles or tier points in line with status.
4. Lounge access.
5. Would the occasional upgrade for someone who has "one of those faces that doesn't get upgraded" be too much to ask for?
FOR HOTELS
1. Not to be walked on arrival.
2. To get the accounting right with respect to my credit card.
3. An upgrade in line with my status.
4. How about posting the points for my stay since you must know by now that I'll force them out of you?
(all of the above points with the Hotel Zimbabwe in mind)
#12
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Apart from the obvious stated benefits I would say the main benefit is when something goes wrong.
AF treated us differently when we miss-connected compared to our fellow non status travellers. Better class hotel and overnight amenity kits compared to the Ibis and no amenity kits.
I've found top hotel status rather inconsistent. From fantastic - the Hyatt Chain to ruddy awful...the Accor/Carlson chains.
AF treated us differently when we miss-connected compared to our fellow non status travellers. Better class hotel and overnight amenity kits compared to the Ibis and no amenity kits.
I've found top hotel status rather inconsistent. From fantastic - the Hyatt Chain to ruddy awful...the Accor/Carlson chains.
#13
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Programs: You mean the cards at the bottom of my desk drawer? BAEC, FB, BA PP Amex, LHW...never any status...
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#14
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
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Sorry sir, I don't know who you are and have no record of your booking. We are full tonight. Now, may I respectfully request you leave our property? What? Do you think it's our problem to find you alternative hotel? Might I respectfully suggest you ---- and die sir?
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